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SUSPink Spider
post Apr 1 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 1 2015, 11:34 AM)
No where.

The buyer who queue at 3.32 will get the share at 3.30..

This is a 'jump queue' technique.. wink.gif
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post Oct 12 2015, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(kumhoo @ Oct 12 2015, 10:32 AM)
Actually I looking at Public Bank and for the past 5 years, the trend is upward. Of course, no guarantee that the share will continue go upward and will not go downward. If really bad luck that the share go down by 50%, I dont think will sell it and will continue to keep for dividend purpose.

My intention is instead of putting it at FD, I looking for high interest return for my deposit. I saw Public Bank dividend on Aug 2015 is 24% and say if I invest 20k, I will get 4.8k return just for the dividend. I hope this is correct. I'm not planning to sell in short period of time and will hold until I really need cash in future. If I have extra money, maybe will buy more for the same share or will look for other high dividend share and keep.

Actually I'm fine if the stock not moving up but of course hope it will not go down coz my intention is to get the dividend yearly which I hope it will be at least 8 to 10%. If the share I invest paying dividend just 5%, I dont think I will invest coz the risk is too high and not much different from FD rate.

I heard got investor that buy share is to get yearly dividend and keep it for many years i.e. 5/10 years and above.
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Dream on! laugh.gif

That "24%" is in reference to its share par value lar

If 24% dividend return...I no need work liao, sell my house sell my car take all cash and dump in PBB shares rclxms.gif

PBB dividend yield is only a meagre 3% p.a.

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...nts/102289?m=ca

24% x RM1.00 (par value) = 24 sen

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post Oct 12 2015, 10:45 AM

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Say, u bought PBB shares at RM17.40
U buy 23 lots i.e. 2300 shares...total invested RM40,020

U will get 24 sen x 2300 = RM552

PBBANK declares 2 dividends a year if I'm not mistaken...

The other dividend this year was 31% i.e. 31 sen on February 2015

So...

24 sen + 31 sen = 55 sen
RM0.55 / RM17.40 x 100%

So the annual dividend yield is about 3.16% assuming u bought at RM17.40

Go learn more about fundamentals and principles of shares wink.gif

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post Oct 12 2015, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(kumhoo @ Oct 12 2015, 10:53 AM)
Argh.....I'm so naive thought the 24% is the rate of the dividend.....really need to go for share investment course.....

So basically invest in share is not able to get high dividend lor.....It still need to depend on the share price raise......
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If u invest for dividends...u have to look for companies that can GROW their profits, so that their dividends will grow too...

Give u a homework...

Find out how much PBBANK shares are selling 10 years ago i.e. 2005

See how much dividends they paid in 2005...2006...2007...2008...til now

Do the math and then tell us wink.gif


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post Oct 12 2015, 12:19 PM

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post Nov 2 2015, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(BaLs @ Nov 2 2015, 01:15 PM)
Hi All,
    I'm new stock investing and currently living abroad. I'm thinking to buy some Malaysian shares as long term investment for dividend.

Is there any online Malaysian stock broker that allow us to open investment account online without the need of physically presenting yourself.
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Account opening with broker can be done online

But for opening CDS account (go google what is CDS), needs someone from the broker firm or a Notary Public to witness your signing.
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post Nov 2 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(BaLs @ Nov 2 2015, 02:24 PM)
Thanks for the prompt reply, what are Online sites that provide online account opening facilities?

When you mention CDS do you meant certificate of deposit?
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The stocks that u bought thru your broker are "deposited" in CDS account opened under your name with Bursa Malaysia. CDS account opening forms signing must be sighted by broker/Bursa rep or by a Notary Public.

Or u could consider to open a Nominee account, i.e. the broker hold the shares in Trust for u. That no need sighting, just can open online. Try Hong Leong eBroking
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post Nov 3 2015, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(BaLs @ Nov 3 2015, 02:28 AM)
Does Malacca Securities Trading Account  or Maybank trading account fall under this category?
I did some research and stumble upon this
https://www.imoney.my/share-trading
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Most if not all brokers offer Nominee accounts. But bear in mind there'd be charges involved.

Call/e-mail and ask.
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post Nov 27 2015, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 27 2015, 11:17 AM)
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Taken from The Star.

I read it as, by having the bond, they reduce the debt gearing from 0.6 to 0.5

Correct?

Strange as to me, bond is still a debt to the company which they have to pay back plus interest.

Or due to some funny clause in accounting, bonds are not considered as debt?

Hope some sifu can help here. Thanks.
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Sukuk (Islamic Bond) is not a bond

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http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/cec38bf2-44...l#axzz3sfDGhxro
http://www.idealratings.com/sukuk-equity-or-bonds.html
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post Nov 27 2015, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 27 2015, 01:15 PM)
Thanks Sifu!

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Are sukuk closer to equity or to debt?
Sukuk can be structured in a variety of ways. In terms of risk/return profile, asset-backed sukuk are arguably closer to an equity position because sukuk holders own the underlying asset and have no recourse to the originator in the event of a payment shortfall. Asset-based sukuk are closer to debt because sukuk holders have recourse to the originator if there is a shortfall in payments.
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I did badly in my accounting unit in secondary school time. I am lost as the article above refers to the SAME thing (asset based sukuk) and said 2 different things.

If sukuk = shares (in some Islamic way), then I can see how it reduces the debt gearing. If it is a loan (like normal bond), then I need classes on arithmetic 001, 002, 003 --- 999.

Thanks.
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Btw, even your Islamic FDs are NOT a deposit, it is an INVESTMENT, do u know that? tongue.gif
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post Dec 3 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Dec 3 2015, 02:28 PM)
Net Interest Margin

According to Investopedia, NIM is:

NIM = (Investment Returns - Interest Expenses)/Average Earning Assets
Now, a typical bank financial statements will indicate its Net Interest Income, which I assume equals (Investment Returns - Interest Expenses). (correct me if I were wrong)

How could we determine Average Earning Assets?
Pink Spider
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Average amount of loans?

To a bank, loans are its assets. Deposits are its liabilities.

I may be wrong, I'm not good at bank's accounts.
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post Jan 23 2017, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 22 2017, 04:25 PM)
for those who have invested in stock markets, how do you measure the IRR of your stock holdings? Do you use any tool that can measure IRR/time weighted returns of your stock portfolio?
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Go FSM thread, Post #1 have a template that u can use.
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post Jan 23 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 23 2017, 01:58 PM)
So you are using the same template as well? I thought the treatment for dividend in shares and unit trust are different.....also, i dont think the template handles stock split, bonus shares, rights issues etc....am i right?
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For UT, dividend = ZERO cash flow

But for shares, dividend is a cash flow.

The principles are the same.

For AMOUNT column, think CASH.
For UNITS column, it handles your bonus and splits
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post Jan 23 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 23 2017, 02:09 PM)
You can try this one... automatic update price by yahoo or google finance. Handle split, bonus issue etc.. and the spreadsheet is save on google cloud.

http://investmentmoats.com/stock-market-co...er-spreadsheet/
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post Mar 27 2017, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 27 2017, 08:56 PM)
Pink Spider
See above post. Thanks  smile.gif
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I dah lama tak buat Cash Flow Statement... sweat.gif

I guess...364,771 blush.gif
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post Mar 28 2017, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 27 2017, 11:07 PM)
Ini apa accountant ini, my accountant every month also do cash flow statement one... tongue.gif
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Apr 7 2017, 09:49 AM)
I bid 1 cent for KGROUP-OR cos there are sellers for 1/2 cent. But done at 1 cent. I thought should be done at 1/2 cent - seller price ?

Yesterday, same thing happened; got buyers for 1 cent and sellers for 1/2 cent, but all done at 1/2 cent. How come for my case, it's done at 1 cent and not 1/2 cent ?
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Bursa will transact at the price where MORE NUMBER OF SHARES WOULD BE TRANSACTED.
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Apr 7 2017, 10:11 AM)
Sorry, I don't get U. Can pl give an example so I can understand ?
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Ehh...let me try har...

Sellers
10 units at RM1
1000 units at RM1.10

Buyers
1000 units at RM1.10 <<< u are queuing here

U see a bugger willing to sell 10 units at RM1

But if Bursa match the orders at RM1, only 10 units would get matched

But many buyers are actually willing to buy at RM1.10

So the guy who queued his units at RM1 would get his shares sold at RM1.10

Something like that. The system will always try to maximise the numbers of units that would get matched.

Here:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/system/a...l_v12_Feb17.pdf

Look at page 82

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