First of all, i would like to ask whether creating a thread requeting for invitation is wrong ?! I believe i've seen a couple of stickied threads are meant for requesting/giving invitations. Eg: Invitations for windows mail, gmail, etc.

Whereas in my case, im seeking invitations for something that is not even posted/mentioned before in this forum - by creating a new thread.
Well, that's my point.

FYI, invitation for a site membership.

I took quite some time tracking my thread simply to find out it was deleted. This is really unethical and unprofessional act by whoever responsible for this issue. I am deeply disappointed by the manner of the thread deletion conducted (prompt deletion without any notice/warning/etc). I believe i reserved the right to demand for an explanation on what's actually going on here.

What i am looking forward to through this post is some explanation which resulted in my thread deletion. Things like:-

Mod responsible:
Deletion reason:
Other elements deemed appropriate:

Thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...48&hl=bitme.org
Creation time: Approximately around 6pm today.

i also encounter this before
where my thread aledi deleted
and it didnt give any notice to me......

although i found the same thread in that board (which mean my thread already start by other people earlier)
but why the mod or staff didnt pm me and tell me about it?
DON'T USE WASTE OF TIME OR SPACE AS REASON

and before you create the thread, have you even use the search function?

It is simply more efficient if you PMed a mod for an explanation, rather than we PMing you as a default action. We delete a substantial volume of posts and threads daily, many of which don't require an explanation, really. We may include an automated feature which would display reasons for deletion, but not just yet.

As a senior member you should have known the R&R.
Disclaimer from biteme.org.



I recommend you watch your tone.

This post has been edited by AsenDURE: Sep 2 2006, 09:30 PM

search function cannot use at that time......

you can even search it manually.

and not only that, you can heads up to google homepage and just type

Noted for future implementation.

you openly discuss about illegal means of getting copyrighted material and you are now complaining whether it was ethical for us to delete your thread without sending you a PM?

Second, threads are not deleted, just moved to the recycle bin pending deletion. If you think your thread should not have been deleted, then inform us and we'll look into it. Otherwise, you most probably broke a forum rule, and we can't be sending every threadstarter a PM when that happens.

I forgot to mention "Strictly only mods or admins can reply in the 1st post which resulted in some unnecessary posts in this thread. My bad.



Personally i felt this way is faster for the person responsible to stand up for this matter (for which any mods might be). I don't have any grudge on any mods, vice versa. No idea to pm which specific potential mod. If i pm u, u still need to find out who is the mod responsible for that incident. Why not post here instead ? Okay, this is just a small matter anyhow.

From ur post, it's not hard to look at things from ur perspective and to understand ur predicament - sick and tired of deleting lotsa unnecessary posts or threads WHICH aren't worth giving explanation. But again, IMHO u should at least give a reason then only close the thread to avoid more possible unsatisfactory appeals asking wat mistakes they've made, bombarding this thread section.

And the automated feature really caught my attention, sounds like a great solution. Keep up the good work.


I can hardly believe my no-nonsense tone wasn't appropriate in this sort of scenario.
But still, i would like apologize if you were somehow offended in certain circumstances merely by my tone.


I believe my knowledge in this area ain't that poor afterall.
However, i question urs (no offense).


Bottomline, links to illegal stuff are not allowed.

To freshen up your memory, i've started the thread to request an invitation for membership of a site.

1. I am not requesting a direct link to a torrent (illegal stuff).
2. From your tone and that you've quoted the disclaimer of bitme.org, i found out that ur wild assumption is that that site is all about "illegal stuff". Did u actually knew they have their very own forum (boards on all sort of topics, in Eng = jz like lyn)?

Let's ponder this issue from a whole new point of view:
Is it wrong for me to request for an invitation for a forum membership ?

Im nt trying to sound critical here, but ur mind seems to be poised with all the negative facts and ur bias has really affected your personal judgement.
Conclusion: bitme.org is not just all bout torrents.

Therefore, closing my thread for violating the third rule in Software R&R is totally unacceptable. You've gotta come up with something better.

Even though, i believe there's not much chance to be able to find some Power Users who possess invitations from bitme.org in lyn --- i cant afford to lose any opportunity to get my hands on the invitation.

I would be glad if badawi_rocks is able to look more deeply into this matter.
Thx in advance.

Since you seem to want a "proper" explanation, here it is.

You did not merely request for an invitation, you made it quite clear that you were requesting an invitation to download materials that are copyrighted. Had you said you were requesting an invitation to the site and stopped there, you might have a case.

Yeah, yeah sure. I'm pretty sure all those are provided free for distribution. If we have reason to believe that you are requesting access/invitation/magic portal to a site offering (mostly) illegal content then we have every right to delete your thread. Please don't feed me bullshit.

Yeah and its really unethical and unprofessional act to waste our time to read your appeal too.

Oh yeah porn sites can be you know... a site just to check out cool tattoos! and to tan_pang: yes, you are indeed a waste of space based on what you have posted.

ok, back to title
if my thread deleted
how i need to know the reason??

pm mod or staff
no other??

yes, if you absolutely necessarily need to know why your thread was deleted, and you are sure that you did not break a rule, just PM any staff/admin as threads are either made invisible or sent to a recycle bin, and all moderation actions are logged.

All threads are handled on a case by case basis, so its easier if you contact us if you feel that your thread should not have been deleted, rather then have us PM the threadstarter for every deleted thread.

unfortunately the other 3 mods are unaware of this thread so i've pm-ed them. now wouldn't it be easier for you to pm the 4 mods of software (one pm, cc. 4 mods)? yeah. small matter but alot of threadstarters have asked this.


FYI this whole section is a no-nonsense subforum. There is no need to re-emphasize your points with bolded fonts, start accusing some mod of being unproffessional/unethical (do you even know the meaning of ethical?) and start making demands. if you fail to detect the arrogance in your tone as oppose to most of the threadstarters here (regular trolls/offenders excluded), then i suggest you learn a little humility.

none taken if you can contest your case but the conditional outcome is however not mutually exclusive.

the rule emcompasses all torrent sites and not just the torrent file links. If the site admins of BiteMe shrugged off any responsibility for the activities at their site, why shouldn't we? do you have any idea how bit torrent works?

you now trying to drag a red herring (Ignoratio elenchi)? no, asking for an invite is not wrong but you're not asking for a forum membership invite. you are asking for an invite to a torrent site that has a forum.



yeah, and i buy playboy mags for the articles. even if there is a forum hosted at their site, it will be themed around the torrents available at that site (eg. seed/re-seed requests). please don't insult our intelligence, There are many torrent sites i frequent that have forums, even cbr download sites have forums. in case you fail to realize yet, i am not the mod that closed your thread, but if i were the one then these are my (and probably his) reasons to do so.

your arguments are what is unacceptable here. i believe a warn request hasn't been issued for this violation and the mod that deleted that thread let you get off lightly. I however am not so lenient.

Let's make this real brief, i kindly request the mods to close this thread as i've already got what i've hunting for: an explanation and an invitation.

Among all the posts replied, i found urs is the most appropriate explanation i could ever asked for. You have pointed the flaw of my msg in the 1st post of my thread. No doubt, no q's bout it. U beat me up ..... flat. For that, ur well-deserved to receive my humble lil salutation to admit defeat. No case for me.

So i've got an explanation.
Realizing there's no free lunch, i've tried to trade the invitation to bitme.org with my oink invitation, for which i managed to seal off the deal. No more explanation needed beyond this point.

Still, i've got clarify a couple of things.


Still felt there nothin wrong with the intonation in my msg. Perhaps u r annoyed with "bolded font" thingy, thus giving u the feel of "arrogant tone" in my msg. FYI, this has been the way i've written formal biz letters. Not even qualified tutors nor the lecturers (even those who taught me biz comm) have problems dealing with that particular element in my writing. Because there isn't any problem at all, at the 1st place.

Before i wanna end this controversial discussion here, i wld like to apologize to any party involved being offended directly/indirectly in a way or another by my posts or perhaps got a couple a zits on the face jz by following this thread. Thank you.