Apparently it affect rendering performance as well, i guess faster/overclocked RAM improved CCXs communication speed. RAM manufacturers will love this.

I don't know, there is very little game that utilized >8 threads atm (Mafia 3 and Crysis 3?).
Simulated R5 1600x/1500x show that gaming performance difference is minimal compare to R7 chips because the IPC is the same and overclocking ceiling is probably similar as well.





Goldfries video also show similar result.
i5 build will cost more than a 1500x build, non-K i5 is no go, also i don't think i can go back to 4C/4T processor as i'm not pure gaming. I'm more of a alt+tab kinda of guys.

Another problem is platform, will next-gen Intel still use Socket 1151? It probably will since it just another SkylakeKabylake optimization but there is no confirmation about it.
AM4 will last many more years and i can upgrade to more powerful Ryzen or next-gen Ryzen anytime when many games start to use >8 threads in near future (knock on wood).

Your reply here

Which i assumed you meant the 4C/8T Ryzen will lost to i5/i7 while the 6C/12T and over won't?


I should rephrase that, Ryzen's gaming performance is my main concern alongside budget. I've used 4C/8T processors for like 6-7 years? Along those years only Crysis 3 actually managed to utilized all 8 threads and over according to recent Ryzen reviews and another game that show similar scaling is Mafia 3? Battlefield 1 is another game but that only scale up to 8 threads.

IPC is the most important for gaming and since all Ryzen chips have similar oc ceiling and very few games will scale over/up to 8 threads then there is no reason for me to buy an R7.
My original plan is to get a 1600x/1600 but i was wondering if i could get away with 1500x and upgrade to Zen+ in a year or 2 since it will bring better IPC and maybe higher clock speed because of processing maturity. Hopefully they will fix or improve latency between CCXs as well.
Hopefully review of R5 will prove me wrong though.

AMD already confirmed that 6 cores will have 3+3 and 4 cores is 2+2. Multitasking was never a problem for me with my current processor.

I know.

I'm still on 1080p and got CPU bottlenecked pretty hard in some games. D:

Is there any personal review of Ryzen compare to good ol' 3770/3770k? I saw one guy planning to do it on AMD Reddit but the thread got buried deep deep deep deeep.

1600/1600x? Imma waiting for more user review/feedback about this.

RX580 is just a slight improvement over RX480.
GTX1070/Nvidia cards still have problem utilizing Ryzen cores in DX12 games?

Why not 1600?

All Ryzen processor is unlocked, X model have higher base clock speed and Extended Frequency Range(XFR). You can overclock non-X SKU to similar or slightly lower speed than X SKU.

Only on one core iinm, in games you will never see auto 4Ghz.

not quite accurate, you can overclock a non-k Intel processor it just not have the multiplier fully unlock and not all mainboard support it.

1600 imo, 8 threads gonna become the norm for proper AAA engine.

Didn't realize you still on Hawaii. D:

Doesn't that mean the heat transfer between die/heatspreader to the cooler is poor? Is it possible to delid Ryzen?

Right, forgot they soldered the heat spreader.

His/her last online here was on April, i think you can try bring this to AMD Malaysia facebook page. Message them there.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/3260-a...search-cts-labs

Always keep you expectation low bruh.

Can you overclock the processor on A320m board? I see many Ryzen gaming build use this chipset.

What a waste, i've seen so many good build with 2600 and even 2600x using this mobo. Does it boost the same as x50 and x70 chips? I mean if i use 2600x will it boost to 4ghz+ too?

Uhh.. that didn't answer my question.

Get now, upgrade later.

Then i suggest wait for official 3rd gen spec and price.