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post Mar 6 2020, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(OnePiece999 @ Mar 6 2020, 02:48 PM)
Ever hear of Genneva? Many trust them too, backed by governments BNM LBMA gold bar anything you can ask for.
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Geneva was never licensed by SC n approved Bursa Malaysia. And Geneva also not owned by a Bank regulated by BNM.
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post Mar 6 2020, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(OnePiece999 @ Mar 6 2020, 02:54 PM)
It was backed by Tun Dr Mahathir himself and BNM, they’re gold bar and has nothing to do with security division, also many promise given to them, including gold redemption, insurance, whatever craps they brag.
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But never got any license and no prospectus.
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post Mar 6 2020, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(OnePiece999 @ Mar 6 2020, 02:59 PM)
You seem very knowledgable about scam, high awareness and can tell what is gold, yet you prefer to venture into untested water which is less than a year established, you must be pure idiot.
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Affin Hwang has been around a long time. They are the 3rd biggest private fund manager in the country, after Public Mutual and Cimb Principal. Their Goldetf was launched in 2017, I was accumulating since then. Sold a bit last year.

U r an ignorant prick .

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post Mar 6 2020, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Mar 6 2020, 07:23 PM)
I wash it dumbfounded when he said it was another Geneva, would you recommend it L So far I track the prices if said ETF and GLD and seems to be ok
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Im not in the business of recommending but I do own it

Best thing for me is that it is just like a counter in bursa malaysia. So it's in my CDS acount together with my dividend stocks, reits, other etfs. So same platform n easy to switch between different assets online. I don't like dealing with many platforms.

Mentally I think of gold like secondary cash. Sometimes I sell gold n buy stocks. Sometime sell stocks n buy back gold. But always maintain a minimum amount.


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post Oct 30 2020, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(chunster @ Oct 18 2020, 03:26 AM)
What is the effective spread on the TradePlus ETF?
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At 11.20am when I looked just now, I saw best buy at RM2. 50/unit with 1050 lots and best sell at RM2. 51 with 150 lots and RM2. 52/unit respectively with 1120 lots.

1 lot is 100 units.

The real time NAV per unit was at RM2.512.

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QUOTE(chunster @ Oct 18 2020, 04:06 PM)
I don't have the numbers for the spread of the ETF. That's why I'm asking here. However, its does look like the spreads with the banks are higher. But the advantage with the banks is you can actually withdraw the physical stuff, whereas the ETF it is not possible. However, there really isn't any reason to withdraw the physical metal unless there were some disaster unfolding
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TradePlus Gold also can redeem physical but you need 500k units. Approx 5kg of gold.

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post Feb 25 2022, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 25 2022, 10:38 AM)
just read this.. I think I read wrongly earlier from somewhere..

will need to consider my investments in gold. Interest rates will rise in coming mths/years:

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/inves...ect%20on%20gold.
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Yes..higher interest rate is Gold's enemy.

What Gold price is saying is that it doesn't believe that interest rate will be up so high. i.e. 7 rate hikes etc won't happen.


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post Mar 7 2022, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 7 2022, 11:50 AM)
now regret didn't buy some gold ETF that day. Price shoot up like mad. Thanks to uncle Putin.
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Still can buy right?

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QUOTE(sgh @ Mar 7 2022, 04:08 PM)
Can I know you all will be buying which Gold ETF? US exchanges listed gold ETF? For me I am buying from SGX SPDR Gold Shares (GSD)
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I buy the Bursa Goldetf, which is in MYR

The SGX one is actually the same as GLD in the US

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QUOTE(JOMMAKAN @ May 17 2022, 08:17 PM)
what is the best platform to buy GOLD
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It depend on the purpose of you buying Gold.

If you want to keep the Gold for decades, like to hold bling bling or being a prepper..then buy physical. Read up this thread.

If u want to buy Gold as an investment in the hope it will go up big in the next few years, then my suggestion is to open a Rakuten cash account and buy Bursa Goldetf (0828EA). This is a Gold fund by Affin Hwang Asset Management that invest in physical bullion. One unit is equal to 0.01gm. u buy it like a stock and you have to buy a minimum of 100units,(one lot). This is my preferred way. Online buy and sell, with narrow spread, using RM and highly regulated by the Malaysian authorities.

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post Jun 12 2022, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Jun 12 2022, 07:40 PM)
May I know what is the advantage of this Goldetf compared to other bank gold acc? And where is the physical bullions are kept?
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1. Much tighter sell and buy spread compared to bank gold account

2. Fund structure, which is fully backed by physical LBMA Gold Bars under a separate trustee and custodian. Even if manager is bankrupt, the gold asset is separate from the manager assets and is safe

3. You can even convert your units to physical gold bars (but minimum is 5Kg).

The Gold Bars are kept in Singapore, at a vault facility near Changi airport. The custodian is Standard Chartered Bank.

The con is the management frees of 0.3% pa and custody/trustee of 0.26%. This will eat up the performance in the long run.

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Jun 14 2022, 04:57 PM)
Thanks for the insight.

yes, whereas for gold account, no fees are involved. But the spread is scary! ohmy.gif
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So this afternoon, I checked Maybank GIA

It's 263.68 and 253.71 sell n buy

That's for 1 gm.

For the Goldetf it's 2.57 and 2.55 sell n buy

That's for 0.01 gm.

But Goldetf one also have to pay brokerage. If use Rakuten, that's RM9 for between RM1000-RM9999 investment. Fortunately, no stamp duty. unlike stocks.

So u can do the maths and decide which way suits you.

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post Dec 31 2022, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 31 2022, 06:27 PM)
Not really because gold is only for wealth preservation 🤦‍♀️

If you’re buying gold because of war and tensions then you’re wrong as 2022 proven gold hasn’t not even increased

The only thing has increased USD, Oil, Corn and Wheat
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Since u said USD increased, GLD is priced in USD and it is slightly positive.(0.78%) for the year. Meaning gold has increased as much as USD.

Not a bad performance considering 2022 is also the year of aggressive nterest rates hikes, which is a negative for gold.

For 2023, if interest rate peaks (or declines) but geopolitical conflict remains or escalates, then I would expect an ever better year for gold.

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QUOTE(Aventador360 @ Jan 1 2023, 01:38 PM)
Can anyone help to explain to me why Gold is pushing the envelope against many of the major currencies in the world even the AUD (Which is commodity backed) but it is not really rocking against the MYR? Is there a defacto peg or something? Or is it to do with the fact that malaysia is an oil exporter and there may be some link there? Thank you.
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There ia no such peg. Its just MYR has performed better in 2022 than the likes of JPY, GBP, EUR vs the USD. N u r correct, we being a commodity exporter has something to do with it.

Personal outlook is that gold should perform well when the Fed pauses, which is expected to be around the 2Q 2023.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 8 2023, 02:58 PM)
Gold is just a speculative asset that has gone up for 20 years because interest rates went down.

Now interest rates will rise for 20 years and gold will go down.

It's not rocket science, it's just economics.

Per a twitter.
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Lol..i will bet in 20 years gold will be much higher than now.

Once upon a time USD was pegged to gold. The peg disappeared in 1971.

Reason: :govt didnt want fiscal discipline tht the peg requires.

Thats when gold went higher and higher.

1970: Gold was USD36 an oz. Now; USD1870

Will go up as long as govt continue to want to spend and spend.





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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jan 8 2023, 04:03 PM)
I concur....for others interested, go read up Basel III and Gold.
Why for the last decades, the Western Banks manipulated gold price via derivatives.
Now, they have to hold physical gold n now proposing 2% holdings in crypto (although not specific which coin).

Im part of them thinking therell be a positive price in gold revaluation against SDR n continue to be holder of utility crypto.
If it happens, the personal satisfaction of life changing wealth...then spend bigger ideas/projects on real needs community assistance.
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But Gold can also be subject to speculative bubbles and busts. So its good to sell some when prices are high and buy some when it falls.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 18 2023, 06:43 AM)
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Lets see if can break last year's USD March high.
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post Mar 18 2023, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 18 2023, 08:06 AM)
Yes.
Last March high was $1,998.18

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It breached 2k last year. Intraday high on 8 March 2022 was USD2070

Back in 2020, 8 August, intraday high was USD2075, which is still.the historical record high.

But yeah in MYR, Gold already at historical high.





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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 18 2023, 10:35 AM)
Current us fed rate is higher than a year ago. after svb turmoil settled, gold price is likely to drop pretty fast.
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They may raise a bit more but Gold and BTC market have noticed Fed has started printing money again.




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Breached USD2k..Tahniah.

Now see if can breach n stay above USD2050!



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