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Best Cheras South New High Rise
 
Altitude 236 by IJM [ 8 ] ** [6.67%]
Maxim Residences by Trillion Maxim [ 5 ] ** [4.17%]
Cloud Tree by Zalam Holdings [ 47 ] ** [39.17%]
Vina by Mitraland [ 6 ] ** [5.00%]
Casa Green by Amber Homes [ 6 ] ** [5.00%]
Windows on the Park by SDB [ 32 ] ** [26.67%]
Lake Vista by UDA [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
You City by PJD [ 9 ] ** [7.50%]
One Amerin by Capital Trend Asia [ 1 ] ** [0.83%]
Dreamcity by Clearwater [ 6 ] ** [5.00%]
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TSWild Wolf
post Sep 7 2014, 12:08 AM, updated 12y ago

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Vote for the best high rise which you think has the best concept, location, building design, value..do leave your opinions here. Cheers. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 7 2014, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Sep 7 2014, 08:32 AM)
not Seri kembangan??
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Yeap Dreamcity is in Sri Kembangan but I add in anyway as it's consider in Balakong area where people looking to purchase one will consider dream city as well.

Sorry just realized I didn't include Lumiere by OCR.. There's no way for me to edit..
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post Sep 7 2014, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(danielisme @ Sep 7 2014, 08:26 AM)
Cheras height not in
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These are the new high rise medium and high ends. Cheras height probably a little some time ago..
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post Sep 7 2014, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(bluecoat @ Sep 7 2014, 12:25 PM)
just know Altitude 236 facing hard sell , not sure how many pecent they sell for total unit
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Yeah so much affected by the SUKE highway..probably sold about 60% by now. The location is not that bad, sale should start picking up again when MRT2 line are confirmed. Those high rises inside Damai Perdana and BTHO will takes at least average 10mins just to reach Altitude236/Connaught area.
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post Sep 8 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Sep 7 2014, 11:58 PM)
when retirement i vote for window of the park , for ppl no yet retire  like me still need rush to KL working , vote for you vista ~
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IMO...Those properties on the other ends (Towards Balakong highway) is not that bad in term of connectivity, as you always have 3 ways to go (Through Mandarina, Through Cheras-Kajang highway or Balakong Highway).

You Vista is next to You City right?
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post Sep 8 2014, 11:22 AM

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[quote=LTG,Sep 8 2014, 11:08 AM]
[quote=Wild Wolf,Sep 8 2014, 10:58 AM]
IMO...Those properties on the other ends (Towards Balakong highway) is not that bad in term of connectivity, as you always have 3 ways to go (Through Mandarina, Through Cheras-Kajang highway or Balakong Highway).
SUKE is coming not sure when only
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Yeah...Looks like Cheras South future is bright, haha. There's plenty of connectivity. We just need more better commercials.

I do hope Festival Walks would be successful. All of us who stay in this area will benefits.

I do believe the Kajang-Cheras highway will improve after MRT1 is 90% complete when all the lanes are repaired and restored, jam would not be as terrible as now.
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post Sep 8 2014, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(bluecoat @ Sep 8 2014, 11:38 AM)
Suke highway from where link to where ?
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From Ampang (Where currently there's a lot of development - Elements/ Arte +, etc) to Taman Muda to Bukit Mandarina to Bukit Jalil. There's an exit/entrance at Bukit Mandarina near where Altitude 236..Thats why the condo are affected.
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post Sep 8 2014, 10:49 PM

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Of all the high rises, here's how I would summarised it:

Best Concept
- Windows on the Park (Linear layouts, , functional building orientation)
- CloudTree (Surrounded by Reserve Forest, beautiful facilities and building design)

Most Value for Money
- Casa Green (Huge space, Lowest psf)

Best Greenery
- Windows on the Park (huge conceptual park to be planted and landscaped by the developer)
- CloudTree (Surrounded by reserved forest, chances of view being blocked are low)
- Green Residence (Reserved forest are inside the residence gated area)

Best Investment
- Casa Green (Lowest psf price)
- You City(Festival within walking distance + one station away to Cheras Sentral + MRT1)
- Cloud Tree (If MRT2 station are within walking distance)

Best Connectivity
- You City (MRT1, interchange at Cheras Sentral to MRT2, next to Kajang - Cheras highway)
- Lake Vista (Near to a huge park and surrounded by commercials all within walking distance)
- Cloud Tree (If MRT2 station in walking distance, near to Balakong Highway, nearest to Bukit Mandarina among those condos near Balakong highway

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post Sep 8 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 8 2014, 10:38 PM)
why no people vote one amerin wan? cry.gif

me vote wotp la. But price also cantik for wotp too. sweat.gif
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I guess the developer is not well known, marketing is not enough. Nobody really sure if the shopping mall gonna make it..
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post Sep 9 2014, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Sep 8 2014, 11:01 PM)
wah look like you vote ct... ct got 4 out of 5. wakaka.

for best connectivity i only agree lake vista... the other 2... hmmmm....
best value for money... only because size psf....... quite shallow ler.
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My honest personal favorite? Windows on the Park is on top of my list. WOTP has set the benchmark in term of luxury condo and Eco concept in Cheras South. Problem with WOTP is the price are now too high, out of reach for most cheras folks and most cheras folks will go for landed anytime.

Casa Green is the most worth buying condo for investment, I think the developer has underestimated the market, sold too cheap at that period of time. As long as the end products doesn't turn up disappointing..

These high rises at the bottom of my list:
Lumiere
The facilities offered are not versatile and facilities has too many powered dependent facilities, will affect the maintenance fee rate in short future. Priced too high, luckily they realized that and has reduced..

Green residence
Location is bad, almost no commercial. Surrounding neighborhood are very badly planned. The only way out from there are the infamous kajang cheras highway, the other way that links to BTHO are terrible. Growth potential in the surrounding area looks bleak.

Altitude 236
Location is not that bad but due to SUKE highway, sales are so badly affected, investment doesn't look good. I believe the highway is not such a negative thing but time will tell.
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post Sep 9 2014, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Sep 9 2014, 12:00 AM)
from map look like passing you city  hmm.gif
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Maybe but no connection to you city area...not a good thing.
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post Sep 9 2014, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Sep 9 2014, 01:35 AM)
agree with you window on the park and casa green is the best living style , but it also come with best pricing , all big size like 1800 sq monthly maintenance fees is killing lolz
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Looking at the Poll Results..Seems like most of us agree that WOTP are the best of all.
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post Sep 17 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(emross @ Sep 17 2014, 12:14 PM)
I will vote for cloud tree , due to the facilities compare to wotp , cloud tree have almost the completer facilities like basket ball court , tennis court , badminton court , pet zone , sky deck , Jacuzzi , souna .

And the surrender of cloud tree is cover by 200 channel of cctv.

And the build up of the unit is much more similar with wotp .

Cheaper price compaire to wotp with similar build up unit design , greeny surrounding , much more facilities.

This is just my thinking .
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Pet Zone is a very good initiative. Not many condo have a pet zone but most condo they will have pets. It's pretty common nowadays in HK even the public park they built a dog zone for dog owners/pets to interact.
It's a very good selling point.

How much are Cloud Tree price psft for the average size let say 1400 sqft and above after discount? WOTP pricing is not that high as they launched one of the earliest in that area.
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post Sep 17 2014, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(pregnantboy @ Sep 17 2014, 11:03 AM)
916sf is too typical design, lower price for better location/KL still available at current market.

I will opt for WOTP only if WIDE BALCONY design is applicable (which is one of SDB main selling point as well), others like typical design (916sf) is a big NO NO to me.
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Man...I totally agreed with you. I think the WOTP 916sf units are like those luxury but lowest spec car models. All the best WOTP concept and features are not applicable on 916st units, Large balcony, V building orientation, Windows Arch, actual park and facilities area a little too far..sad case but no doubt, it's still a good buy if those features are not the main reason you buy it..its the lowest entry.

This post has been edited by Wild Wolf: Sep 17 2014, 12:53 PM
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post Sep 17 2014, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(kitkat @ Sep 17 2014, 12:41 PM)
wrong info.
for standard units, the biggest built up is 1545sf, and about 500psf.
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WOTP selling price was like 480-500 psft earlier, I'm not sure now.. Not much different than most of these condos in this area!
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post Sep 17 2014, 06:08 PM

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LOL...guys...chill chill..
If you guys are arguing on the 916sft...think both projects layout almost about the same.
Now probably the MRT2 station after Alam Damai will determine which would be a better prop..

Location wise, both has pros and cons..

WOTP Location:
Pros
Has a lot of land in the surrounding which could contribute to its value.
There's earmarked school zone.
A lot of future routes to be built. Connectivity is excellent.
Close distance to commercial hotspots.
On flat terrain, next to lake (Subjective)

Cons
View might be blocked by future development
Future might lose the hill next to it, as the area are earmarked as residential area.


Cloud Tree Location
Pro
New route towards Alam Damai (TBC - Plan as what KVsual has shared)
View is excellent on high ground, chances of view being blocked are lower.
Near to the future Damai Commercial center and a school.

Cons
Entrance toward CT area a little bad shape.(Old abandoned shops)
On high hill, far from the main road. (Subjective)
Near to a huge temple (Subjective)
Future might lose its surrounding greeneries, as more development already on the way.

Anyway...when both the props ready, guys invite me lah to your houses and let me see..haha. Congrats to the buyers.

This post has been edited by Wild Wolf: Sep 17 2014, 06:12 PM
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post Sep 17 2014, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(kitkat @ Sep 17 2014, 06:26 PM)
a lot of people prefer their house away from school and shoplot. near to school and shoplot = near to traffic and jam, at the main road and main junction.
but is very subjective maybe you like it.
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Its because I looking for investment. As Kvsual said...more jam, better!
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post Sep 20 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Kvsual @ Sep 20 2014, 11:31 AM)
Pls read our latest CT thread where chulk kor commented on the balakong station. (But is okay, need  not to check as it's small matter).
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Looking at commercials at Lake Valley there will only take off sooner if MRT2 rerouted there. Otherwise the concentration is at c180. Those semi d will helps..but seem most owners are investors. No one moving in yet!

Cloud Tree the shoplots there will be hard to take off..as the hotspot is already concentrated at damai perdana and also the upcoming damai square. Most of the landed entrance are all at the damai perdana side not CT entrance. Traffic too low. Unless the mrt2 station is right at the entrance.
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post Sep 20 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 11:47 AM)
Windows on the park & cloud tree really very refine quality living and own stay purposes.

size in cloud tree however less attractive, a lot of sharing in cloud tree with town house and many other towers, high density I presume.

Window on the park is of  a better location but could tree if of a better KL view

both are good and pricey, nevertheless still better than buying old sub sales which are almost priced similar to them after factoring cost
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Yeah agree, CT density are higher than WOTP.. Less exclusivity. WOTP the land itself are actually bought at slightly premium price in the area as it is strategic. WOTP early buyers are lucky ones as the price same or lower than recent launch projects in the area, now WOTP left only with large units so its out of reach for most potential buyers.

But if CT compare with other projects I think it's a good buy still, zalam track record is good, building exterior are attractive although I personally don't really like the location as it at the 'border' between the new area and the old area, and the entrance facing the old side..but mrt2 will make a different I believe..

This post has been edited by Wild Wolf: Sep 20 2014, 12:41 PM
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post Sep 20 2014, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Kvsual @ Sep 20 2014, 02:43 PM)
Omg! I'm just to avoid any argument again. I'm answering every comment politely yet u being to pushy.
Fishy? I can tel everything of Cloudtree, if someone interested, pls pm me (almost everyday I received message to ask my opinion on CT investment,  so I will share all pros and cons)
Really speechless.  Whatever cloudtree owner said what, someone will just against it. So no point to comment it here.
Perhaps good things always gain more attention.
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LOL, it's funny.. So what's the cons of CT? Actually i only hear you highlight on the pros. Lets be logical.. Let's not give your opinion like from the developer salesman point of view..




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