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 Canon vs. Nikon:, Why I want to switch to Nikon, but can't

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post Sep 6 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 6 2014, 08:05 PM)
actually la, in the past the decision was

Canon for natural skin tones.
Nikon for saturated colors.

after listening for 2 minutes and 30 seconds, i couldn't be bothered as there's a bunch of crappy stuff and over generalization.

this is the same guy behind that nonsense video about what ISO la what APS-C / FF / M43 / Sony cheating you stuff. I gave him a chance in this video, he failed in straight at the start.

sensor details and sharpness are 2 different things.

Canon? More buffer? zomg how fast the buffer clears is all about how fast it writes to the card, more buffer space / memory area doesn't do anything if you're using Class 2 vs a Class 10 with 80Mb/s write speed.
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well i think i saw before about the small buffer on the d7100, 7 raw bursts or seomthing then fill up buffer already, even if you using class 10. with canon i think even 70D can do better than that.

that being said, i used both canon and nikon before. IQ wise, not really big difference from RAW. but i can't stand the ergonomic and rubbish screen on nikon, the colors are so wrong!
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post Sep 6 2014, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 6 2014, 08:59 PM)
ehh because choice of card is about how fast the buffer clears. smile.gif

how fast the buffer fills up is about the burst mode vs the available buffer space.

with a fast writing card, the system starts to write when moment the first shot is captured so you will be able to go more than 1 second on burst mode.

that's why no one really talks about burst mode. i can't imagine that within that 150 seconds he already concluded that Canon's only strong point is the buffer.

it's already 2014, any respectable pro wouldn't even discuss Canon vs Nikon as both are great brands.

IQ wise actually Nikon is super impressive, so far the only camera that was ever able to WOW me with image quality (details and dynamic range) was the image from Nikon D800.

Anyway, I'd say skip the video above - head over to this page http://www.digitalcameraworld.com/2014/06/...en-waiting-for/ for a proper Canon vs Nikon comparison.

That's how it should be compared, based on camera levels and available lens, systems and what not.
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http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51398342

hmm...
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post Sep 6 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 6 2014, 09:53 PM)
wah at least edit the post a bit la.

anyway it's exactly like what i mentioned, you would be able to go a little over 1 second for it.

reference http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/niko...kon-d7100A6.HTM

the link you gave me highlights the buffer but not the speed. say the 60D with 16 frames. Sure but 60D is only 5.3 fps and also 18MP.

the new models with higher MP and faster FPS always face the buffer fill up issue so it's not so much of the brand but rather the specifics of the camera.
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okay... i didn't put the FPS and amount of frames until buffer fill up into my consideration. now i see why faster FPS cameras only last 1 or 2 second of burst most of the time.

my bad for misunderstanding your statement at first. smile.gif
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post Sep 15 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 6 2014, 10:18 PM)
Well like I mentioned before on the other thread - he talks so much but those things aren't important. smile.gif Better use the time and effort to improve photography than trying to understand what he's saying

If you're interested http://petapixel.com/2014/05/27/tony-north...ra-spec-debate/

Through the years, I see the following
1. newbies - very interested in technical stuff, especially things like what Tony N mentioned.
2. amateurs / enthusiast - mixed but most of them would just focus on taking pictures.
3. pros - don't care la what that Tony dude say. they're busy creating more beautiful pictures and give workshops

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I think the tutorial / guide / other videos from Tony N is pretty good though, should spend more time viewing those than his technical stuff.
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Sorry for bringing up this post again, I had some questions regarding the buffer issue.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-7d-mark-ii

As the 7D II is launched, you can see the spec sheet comparison between 7D, 7D II and D7100.

the 7D II has 10fps and can shoot 31 Raw until the buffer fill up compared to 9 Raw with the D7100? Nothing about card spec was mentioned in that table.
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post Sep 17 2014, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(ProotechStore @ Sep 17 2014, 12:45 AM)
This brand war will never come to an end.
Nikon sharpness as hell for natural shooter.
Canon desaturated tone where most of
Photographic trendy needs it.a tone.

Since they both fight against each other to produce good device for video shooting,
Canon wins......but IMHO, if you shoot a video with manual focus, get a nikon mount adapter, and try nikon old school lenses.the AIS.have a try.its a good blend for video.canon fd lenses s u c k s.
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Really? Canon not sharp? Show me sample pics please. I used Canon for 3 years already and never feel the images are not sharp enough. Talking about tone, take 2 Nikon and Canon RAW files and compare yourself.

What for? Don't you know Canon produce STM lenses + video autofocus capable camera like the 70D? Any canon EF/ EFS lens works well with Canon body for video shooting too.

What you said aren't true at all.
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QUOTE(BaRT @ Sep 17 2014, 08:35 PM)
Good point there..
For amateur level (like me), doesn't matter either nikon or canon, I will choose the best spec which value for money..and it's all rely on budget available from my pocket.  laugh.gif
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for this reason i will support canon. most canon lenses are cheaper than nikon. for example you can get a good quality UWA for crop (10-18) below rm1k. then you have the 50mm f1.8 for rm200-300 (build is bad and focusing is bad, but still usable for me). the newer STM kit lenses are not bad too, focusing a lot quicker and quieter than previous version. when you go to the telephoto range, you get L quality lens for rm2k (70-200 f4L). the 100mm macro is around rm1.2k only too. not to mention 17-40L, 16-35 f4L, 24-105L, 24-70 f4L (really cheap after price drop) are cheaper than Nikon equivalent too.

some might say these lenses aren't as sharp as nikon, but are you willing to pay like another thousand or more just to get a bit sharper?

 

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