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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V7, Please Read Post# 1 & 2

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jack2
post Dec 3 2014, 04:29 PM

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Anyone here is still with Ambank Top Rate FD promotion held 3-4 years ago which the interest is credited quarterly or half-yearly?

I have 3 FDs on this promotion and the counter staff told me that this FD's interest is paid quarterly. And I asked, if I made withdrawal after interest is paid before tenure, will they get back the interest. I was informed that what had been paid, will not be charged back.

So I committed into the FD with 48 months and 60 months. The interest at that time was 3.6% and 4.1%

The 48 months one, last year Dec 2 was expired and I left it over without anything and it was auto renewed to another 48 months with 3.35% interest.
Today is 1 year out of 4 years tenure and I requested to withdraw all the principal. I was told that they will penalty me half of the interest paid for that 1 year.

The issue now is, what I was informed and what they told me now is totally different. Thus, I requested for the term and condition I signed if they have such rule to charge me penalty before the tenure.

They are unable to provide me the T&C I signed or they did not have such thing too. They passed over this case to branch manager to handle and I am waiting for the solution.

How could it be fair to renew me on board rate at 3.35% for 48 months?

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post Dec 3 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Dec 3 2014, 05:01 PM)
jack2

Its standard practice to claim back interest that has been paid monthly, quarterly and whatsnot. Only consolation is some banks only claimed back a certain percentage if deposit duration has been more than 3 months. I could say all banks has standard policy of renewing FD on maturity at board rates. Its why quite a number of forumers take it upon themselves to hunt for better rates on before FD maturity. If not fair on new rates then what rate do you suggest?
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I see two issues here:-
1. Standard practice - I am very sure I asked the question if I withdraw my principal before maturity. Whatever interest paid can be claimed back by bank. The staff answered what had been paid is yours and bank won't claim it back.

That made me comfort to opt for 48 months or 60 months. Even if I need money, I can withdraw every 3 months.

2. I asked for term and condition I signed if there is penalty (just in case I really forgot in (1)), but they can't show me what I signed. Thus, do they have right to charge the penalty? If there is no written agreement, you have no right to charge back.

And you renewed me on board rate with 48 months by giving me 3.35% with this term. Those fresh fund or new customers who deposited, 1 year can get 4.05% with only 1 year commitment. Fair?

Even without promotion, 1 year 3.3% and 4 years you give me 3.35% LOL

Back to the issue, what I was told in 5 years and what I was told now totally is not same case. So, I asked the bank to show me the agreement I signed if they want to charge me penalty.
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post Dec 3 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Dec 3 2014, 05:14 PM)
Stay cool bro. I have no vested interest in AMBANK. What staff, Bank Manager, Sales Advisor and whatsnot said holds no water unless it can be proven. This is the strategy of UT, Investment salesperson sellers as they know it can not be proven. Just check whether the current board rate is 4 years at 3.35%, thats all you can do. Complain or whatever, the case is not on your side.

If on 48 months tenure and can withdraw without penalty, i would think none of us would deposit for 3 months nay 12 months tenure.

I repeat again, promo is to attract new customers, thats it. Its the reason why we moved funds thru various banks and not because we like moving it around.
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You are wrong. You thought the 48 months with 3.35% is very attractive? With 3.35% tenured for 48 months with penalty, I believe only ghost will go to tenure it.

Let compare Apple with Apple. I don't want to compare the promotion one.

1 year board rate 3.3%
4 year board rate 3.35% with penalty of half of the interests paid during the tenure.

Which one you gonna opt?

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post Dec 3 2014, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Dec 3 2014, 05:26 PM)
The reason why we dont find board rates at all the banks any attractive, is the reason why we moved our funds all over other banks trying to find attractive rates. The most stable board rates i would think is Bank Rakyat, so placed it there.

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Banks dont put gun at your head and order you to deposit there. Willing buyer willing seller and remember to check all terms and conditions.
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No issue at all. I can even lost the half of the interest received and closed all facilities I have with them. It is not worth to stay with them anymore.

Moreover, the thing I hate them is their credit card. Late 1 day in payment of Cc will get late fee of min 10. Unlike other banks who offer 3 days after due date without late fee.
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post Dec 3 2014, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 08:54 PM)
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Bro, usually banks pay 50% interest for premature withdrawal of FD, but this is on condition that we have to keep
our money in FD for at least 3 months; if less than 3 months, then no interest at all.

It does not make sense to me that bank will not charge back paid interest for premature withdrawal.

Just imagine, bank agrees to pay high interest rate in exchange for your 5 years FD tenure; if suddenly you want
to pull back, this means you are breaching the 5 years FD contract, so by right you will not get the full interest.

Now back to your 3 issues:
First issue: 48 months auto renew to 48 months board rate at 3.35%.
Usually banks will auto renew or roll-over to board rate, board rate means normal rate.
I just checked Am Bank board rates, 48 months is 3.5%.
So, Am Bank is doing it right in this part. This has nothing to do with fair or not fair.
You made a mistake that you did not go to update or withdraw your matured FD.

Second issue: Want to premature withdrawal for 60 months FD
Bro, this is for sure Am Bank will impose a penalty because you do not want to continue
the contract that you have agreed..

Third issue: Am Bank is unable to provide the T&C
I guess it is Am Bank responsibility to provide you the T&C, then you will clear your doubt
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Bro, you are right half and wrong half.

When I first entered the FD agreement, yes, the rate given is higher than normal in exchange for 4 years.

However, when the FD matured after 4 years tenure and renewed at board rate 3.35%, do you think 3.35% is still good in exchange for 5 years? 3.35% is board rate which is not the previous promotion rate.

I will ask for the previous agreement I signed. I know UOB has the term and condition and requested customers to read and sign.

Nevertheless, no matter how the outcome is, I will take out the money and willing to loss the 50% of interest paid and put it to higher offer with 1 year tenure and assume I will put the same for another 3 years with 4% interest. I still gain extra interest if compared to their current 3.35% if I am still continue with them.


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post Dec 3 2014, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 09:41 PM)
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1. Bro.. this still need to see the T&C, bank staff could provide wrong info since no black & white from his/her mouth.

2. Get Am Bank to show you the T&C. This is your right and this is Am Bank's responsibility.
    About " renewed me on board rate with 48 months by giving me 3.35%..." -----> Bro, this is one of the methods how banks    can make money to take advantage from some FD depositors do not have time (or perhaps forget) to withdraw matured FDs
and re-deposit for FD with new promo rate.

Next time, one month before your FDs are matured, please come here to check around the FD promo rates in this thread
Bro, I know how you feel...  sweat.gif
When auto renew, FD will auto renew to the rate that based on the bank board rate.

Once we auto renew, bank will not give us promo rate; unless we withdraw it and redeposit it
back as fresh fund, then we will get promo rate..
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post Dec 3 2014, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Mar 8 2010, 11:53 PM)
ambank 3.6% for 48 mths Top Rates Plan. Interest is payable quarterly with no penalty on early withdrawn.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Mar 9 2010, 11:40 AM)
It did not state does not mean that they penalty you.

I asked and joined them 4 months ago. The manager said interest is payable quarterly. I was shocked that it is too good to be true. I questioned her back that if that is the case, I can withdraw early after interest is paid and will you charge back me the interest paid and penalty.

The answer is NO.

Please opt for other banks if you SCARE. Anyway, the promotion was ended.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Mar 9 2010, 11:43 AM)
Which one is true. The answer I got was contrary with yours.

Update:

I called to AmOnline and talked to the CS. She told me no penalty for earlier withdrawn. Whatever interest you have earned and paid previously will not be claimed back from you.

I told her what you was told by someone and she confirmed with her supervisor again and the answer is the same. No.
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I recalled I did recommend this AM Top Rate Quantum and I got back what I have posted before.

My memory served me well and what I remembered was correct.

Besides confirming with the branch manager while I was depositing, and then some forumers got different answer by they will charge back the interest paid, I called to AmBank Online Call center to check and double confirm, as written above.

However, the manager part is the solid proof even I met the manager. For AmBank Online, I am not sure if they have record for all calls made.
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post Dec 3 2014, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 09:54 PM)
Bro..calm down first... rice already cooked and cannot reverse already..  sweat.gif
I suggest you to continue until all FDs are matured then withdraw and redeposit for other new FDs.
If you continue, you have nothing to lose lah..

We never want to against with money.. furthermore, GST is coming soon.. sweat.gif
You are very welcome.. All the best to you. And see you soon here... smile.gif
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The case was handled to the manager as claimed by the offer. I am waiting for the call on how they resolve for me.

I am not sure what I posted 4 years ago here would be the solid proof to support what I was told by the manager and also the call center I called to.

Moreover, if they can't provide me the term and condition I signed for this penalty, they have no right to charge me.
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post Dec 3 2014, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 10:07 PM)
I know you, because I had seen your Chinese signature before..

Calculate the profit and loss first to see it is worth it to do a premature withdrawal.

Good Luck.. Bro, Hope you can get it done smoothly .. thumbup.gif
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Calculated. Withdraw now and loss 50% of previous interest paid and move to 4% FD by 1 year tenure and continue to put for another 2 years (which is same as the 3.35% tenure expired), I gain extra RM110.

That needs to evaluate if RM110 is worth.

Under certain viewpoint, I would say I should take move, besides earning extra RM110, I would have shorter tenure of 1 year. If I need money in short term, I can still withdraw it.

If I continue with the current one and if I need the money if year 3, I would loss 50% of all the interest paid during the past 3 years.. That more rugi.
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post Dec 3 2014, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 10:22 PM)
Oh...  doh.gif  I got it wrong... You mean that one with 3.35%..?
For sure withdraw it as soon as possible lah...better do it tomorrow first thing in the morning..

I mean it is better to continue your existing 5 years FD until it is matured..
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I got 3 FDs with them

1. 48 months tenure, expired Dec 3, 2013 and renewed to another 48 months @ 3.35 expiring Dec 3, 2017

Interest is paid quarterly and I have received 4 times interest and about RM1.3k


2. 60 months tenure @ 4.1% expiring 2016
3. 60 months tenure @ 4.3% expiring 2017.

Since I was told by the manager about earlier withdrawal prior to maturity will not cause penalty on previous interest paid or deduction from principal, that is why I committed for so long tenure.

Since I was told otherwise today, the tenure renewed at 3.35% is not worth at all if I can't fight this case with them.








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post Dec 3 2014, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 3 2014, 10:33 PM)
Just want to ask, I put affin 2-3 months back at board rate 3.7% for 1 year. Should I remove that and put into affin 4.38% and forfeit my 2-3 months of interest?
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You need to calculate and compare both cases and see which one gives you the higher interest.
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post Dec 3 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 10:43 PM)
Ok.. now I got a clearer picture..
3.35% is got damn low for 48 months. No need to waste time with Am Bank for this.
I mean you the more days you delay to withdraw, the more interest you lose..
If I were you, I would withdraw it tomorrow first thing in the morning, and get a banker's check to
place FD in RHB at 4.15% for 9 months tomorrow.
Withdraw this FD first, then negotiate with Am Bank for this premature withdrawal case later.
Withdraw without settle it, once I withdraw, they will deduct 700 from my principal.

If nego and fail, I still earn extra money but in principal wise, I must get what I have been promised, since I took 2 steps to confirm:

1. the manager
2. ambank online call center



QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 10:43 PM)
2. 60 months tenure @ 4.1% expiring 2016
3. 60 months tenure @ 4.3% expiring 2017.
These 2,  you can hold on, not to withdraw, and continue to talk to Am Bank, since these 2 rates are still okay,
furthermore interest is paid quarterly..
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Yes, these 2's rates are still reasonable.
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post Dec 3 2014, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 11:07 PM)
Aiyo.. doh.gif  deduct RM 700..??

Wah.. like this..? You stuck already... Really deep loh.. this time
Then try to settle this as soon as possible loh.. Hopefully by tomorrow..?
You really cannot wait..  sad.gif  Good Luck
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Yes. RM700 (50% of the previous 1 year paid).

Anyhow, if I continue with them or withdraw and loss RM700, I still earn RM110 if put at 4%.

So no matter how, I will withdraw but I will fight what I should have been told.
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post Dec 3 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 3 2014, 11:19 PM)
Move to where to get 4% for 1 year and still earn RM 110?  hmm.gif
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post Dec 4 2014, 11:41 AM

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Dear Forumers,

I failed with the discussion and I have to bear the penalty.

I will withdraw that FD and move to Affin.

3.35% / 2 = 1.65% p.a

I put this money to M2U Saver also can get 2.2%

After this lesson, I learned to be smarter and I want to end all my saving products and cc with them. A good move so I can consolidate.Attached Image

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post Dec 4 2014, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 4 2014, 12:39 PM)
Bro.., yes, it seems the RM 700 deduction is unavoidable.
Short term pain is better than long term pain, withdraw Am Bank and move to other banks
is a right decision.

If you are not concerned about PIDM issue, MBSB 5 years at 4.7% is another option.
But I think it is better to put in short term first, Affin 4.38% for 2 years is a good option at this time.

About saving account, if your amount is more than RM 20K, you can gain more from Affin Saving account:
http://www.affinbank.com.my/General/Rates/...rest-Rates.aspx

Affin CASA is having a promo:
http://www.affinbank.com.my/General/Whats-...A-3939-TNC.aspx

Affin 4.38% for 2 years:
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brother, thanks a lot for the recommendations.

I prefer with PIDM.. haha.. Later if anything happened, the money is colder than the water.

Affin - I do have their AffinPlus Current Account long time ago.. and the interest is good but it is tier basis. So the effective interest is not that good compared to M2U Saver @ 2.2%
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post Dec 4 2014, 03:38 PM

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Just done FD with affin. The branch has no customers one. All teller were free!
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post Dec 9 2014, 08:10 PM

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it seems like Affin FD is not that famous and seldom people here put into it?

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