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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V7, Please Read Post# 1 & 2

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post Oct 16 2014, 03:34 PM

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i just opened UOB FD 4.05% 12mths. They just issued me 'TIME/FIXED DEPOSIT ADVICE' statement. Is it neccesary to request for FD cert? I immediately check UOB online banking and my FD accounts are already there.

Is this safe enough? What is the purpose of having FD certs?
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post Oct 16 2014, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(kimmo88 @ Oct 16 2014, 03:34 PM)
i just opened UOB FD 4.05% 12mths. They just issued me 'TIME/FIXED DEPOSIT ADVICE' statement. Is it neccesary to request for FD cert? I immediately check UOB online banking and my FD accounts are already there.

Is this safe enough? What is the purpose of having FD certs?
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UOB do not need FD cert to uplift. I normally do not check if what they issued is a cert or not. So no worry. The online check is suffice, that is what I normally do as well. biggrin.gif

They will also issue you with statement monthly (edited at 5.38pm)

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QUOTE(giko @ Oct 16 2014, 03:22 PM)
Possibly in Nov as any increase in jan 2015 is too close to the start of gst/flotation of ron95 pricing. interestingly, the global oil prices are down, and we're now paying taxes as opposed to given subsidies for ron95 = http://www.therakyatpost.com/business/2014...t-fuel-subsidy/

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Nov OPR increase will be GOOD ! rclxms.gif
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post Oct 16 2014, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 16 2014, 03:38 PM)
Nov OPR increase will be GOOD !  rclxms.gif
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Not scared kena sumpah meh..those heavy with loans.. you no pity.

I do think interest rates at present is good enough, rise sumore, lots of people jump off 14th floor. Look at stock market now, big red bear already. doh.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 16 2014, 03:38 PM)
Nov OPR increase will be GOOD !  rclxms.gif
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while those with loans would be like cry.gif vmad.gif


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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Oct 16 2014, 12:55 PM)
50k also small fry?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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50k might be small fry for some but it's good enough to get Aspire account since you are placing more than 50k 1year FD. Can just go to their Aspire counter without queuing next time(not that I go to MBB often) . Haha.

I don't have MBB RM like all the sifu here so they just offer Aspire. Maybe they have quota to hit or something.
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QUOTE(kimmo88 @ Oct 16 2014, 03:34 PM)
i just opened UOB FD 4.05% 12mths. They just issued me 'TIME/FIXED DEPOSIT ADVICE' statement. Is it neccesary to request for FD cert? I immediately check UOB online banking and my FD accounts are already there.

Is this safe enough? What is the purpose of having FD certs?
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Some banks do not practice FD cert, but statement based.

FD cert or statement based is just the way how bank adopted in the system.


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post Oct 16 2014, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 16 2014, 03:37 PM)
UOB do not need FD cert to uplift. I normally do not check if what they issued is a cert or not. So no worry. The online check is suffice, that is what I normally do as well.  biggrin.gif

They will also issue you with statement every 3 mths or so.  smile.gif
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Bro, Statement Based Accounts do not issue any cert for FD but they do give you a piece of useless paper for your records when you place a FD.

How come you only get Statements from UOB every 3 months? I get them every month!

QUOTE(kimmo88 @ Oct 16 2014, 03:34 PM)
i just opened UOB FD 4.05% 12mths. They just issued me 'TIME/FIXED DEPOSIT ADVICE' statement. Is it neccesary to request for FD cert? I immediately check UOB online banking and my FD accounts are already there.

Is this safe enough? What is the purpose of having FD certs?
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Firstly, UOB and OCBC do not issue any certs for FD because they are Statement Based. The paper that is issued to you when you place your FD is only to notify you that UOB did indeed receive a FD placement and apart from this, it is useless.

Whenever I want to place or withdraw FD from UOB, I don't need to bring any documents. All I need to do is give them my NRIC and their system will show all my FDs account info, and from there I can tell them what I want to do with each account.


As for the second question safe or not, well, if you had read the last few pages of this thread you would have got some idea.

If your FD is in your name only, then it is very safe as only you can go uplift/withdraw the FD. Nowadays most banks will need our NRIC and our thumb print for any type of withdrawals. However, if joint account and anyone can sign, then there is always a risk that any of the signatories can go uplift withdraw the FD without prior knowledge of the other party.

I did mention earlier that Statement Based FD is not secured for joint accounts (where anyone can sign) as anyone can go withdraw/uplift the FD anytime without prior knowledge of the other party. And by the time the other party finds out, it be to late and they can do nothing.

Below are posts you would have read if you had taken the time to read them.


QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 14 2014, 10:50 PM)
Yes, for Statement Based by next month will know if other party made any withdrawal. But like  I said - without prior knowledge and only need to bring NRIC. By the time the other party receive the statement too late.

As for the cert, yeah, can always report as lost and get a new one but need to do some work (hassle) and may be illegal (false report). And the other party only finds out when he goes to the bank when FD matures. But then the party holding the cert can build a case against the other party; for statement base nothing can be done.

I hate the Statement Base Accounts, every month I get stack of papers. Previously, UOB PB will sent me a summary of all my accounts in a single letter. Now, I get more than 10 different statements (even if the a particular FD account got RM0, and they will also sent a letter if any FD is uplifted to be renewed at promo rate). Add that to my OCBC statements (DCI RM0 also get statement) plus my other bank current account statements, I have to waste a lot of time opening the letters plus filing them up.

And you guys know lah I have many credit cards. So many statements to read for a half blind man is a torture you know.
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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Oct 15 2014, 08:46 PM)
If want to report the FD cert is lost, the bank has to get verification and confirmation from all joint names of FD
depositors listed on the FD cert. One party cannot make a valid report that the FD cert is lost (unless it is single name).

For example, If Ah Goat, Uncle Magic and I have a joint name FD cert, and Ah Goat holds the FD cert.
Now, if Uncle Magic has a bad intention and he wants to withdraw all the money and run away to Caribbean Islands
by cheating to the bank that the cert is lost, then the bank will need to get confirmation from Ah Goat and me that
the cert is actually lost.
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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Oct 16 2014, 09:43 AM)
Once bank confirms that the FD cert is lost, then bank will request FD depositors to make a "sumpah"
so that bank can use "sumpah" to void the lost FD cert and re-issue another new FD cert.

Can, joint account can have 3 names.
If I am not mistaken, can have up to 4 names.
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QUOTE(Nauts @ Oct 16 2014, 11:42 AM)
Most banks require you to sign letter of indemnity if lost the cert or withdraw without cert.

Last time harder, need make police report also. Probably last time not so computerized.
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So, in conclusion, do not sign up for joint account where anyone can sign if you don't trust him/her or not willing to to "give" him/her the money sooner than planned.

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just wondering. Has CIMB ever been aggressive with FD promotions? Any chance of them countering mbb's attack in the near future?

with regards the merger, what will happen to the MBSB long dated FD's let's say 12 mths or longer such that by the time they mature, the merger already completed. Will those MBSB FDs enjoy PIDMunder the merged entity?
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QUOTE(okuribito @ Oct 16 2014, 05:12 PM)
with regards the merger, what will happen to the MBSB long dated FD's let's say 12 mths or longer such that by the time they mature, the merger already completed. Will those MBSB FDs enjoy PIDMunder the merged entity?
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Maybe PIDM protected.. hmm.gif
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post Oct 16 2014, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 16 2014, 03:37 PM)
UOB do not need FD cert to uplift. I normally do not check if what they issued is a cert or not. So no worry. The online check is suffice, that is what I normally do as well.  biggrin.gif

They will also issue you with statement every 1 mth (edited).
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 16 2014, 04:20 PM)
Bro, Statement Based Accounts do not issue any cert for FD but they do give you a piece of useless paper for your records when you place a FD.

How come you only get Statements from UOB every 3 months? I get them every month!

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I checked my UOB statement, I did receive on monthly basis. The issue is for the past 1 year, no placement there until recently. So forgot that they are issuing on monthly basis. Their rate over last 1 year was behind other banks. By June 2014 has depleted my FD there until Oct. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 16 2014, 04:20 PM)
Bro, Statement Based Accounts do not issue any cert for FD but they do give you a piece of useless paper for your records when you place a FD.

How come you only get Statements from UOB every 3 months? I get them every month!
Firstly, UOB and OCBC do not issue any certs for FD because they are Statement Based. The paper that is issued to you when you place your FD is only to notify you that UOB did indeed receive a FD placement and apart from this, it is useless.

Whenever I want to place or withdraw FD from UOB, I don't need to bring any documents. All I need to do is give them my NRIC and their system will show all my FDs account info, and from there I can tell them what I want to do with each account.
As for the second question safe or not, well, if you had read the last few pages of this thread you would have got some idea.

If your FD is in your name only, then it is very safe as only you can go uplift/withdraw the FD. Nowadays most banks will need our NRIC and our thumb print for any type of withdrawals. However, if joint account and anyone can sign, then there is always a risk that any of the signatories can go uplift withdraw the FD without prior knowledge of the other party.

I did mention earlier that Statement Based FD is not secured for joint accounts (where anyone can sign) as anyone can go withdraw/uplift the FD anytime without prior knowledge of the other party. And by the time the other party finds out, it be to late and they can do nothing.

Below are posts you would have read if you had taken the time to read them.
So, in conclusion, do not sign up for joint account where anyone can sign if you don't trust him/her or not willing to to "give" him/her the money sooner than planned.
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It seems there is an option to 'withdraw' your FD using UOB online banking. No need to walk-in to branch. Convenient but may not be safe if your account gets hacked !

This post has been edited by kimmo88: Oct 16 2014, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 16 2014, 03:38 PM)
Nov OPR increase will be GOOD !  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 16 2014, 03:43 PM)
Not scared kena sumpah meh..those heavy with loans.. you no pity.

I do think interest rates at present is good enough, rise sumore, lots of people jump off 14th floor. Look at stock market now, big red bear already. doh.gif
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Every action there will always be good and bad reactions. For those who are debt free, should be happy also. Right, "Good" guy ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(okuribito @ Oct 16 2014, 05:12 PM)
just wondering. Has CIMB ever been aggressive with FD promotions? Any chance of them countering mbb's attack in the near future?
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CIMB has not been aggressive for FD promo as far as I know for past few years. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(kimmo88 @ Oct 16 2014, 05:37 PM)
It seems there is an option to 'withdraw' your FD using UOB online banking. No need to walk-in to branch. Convenient but may not be safe if your account gets hacked !
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I don't think so. I did not see the option in the online account. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 16 2014, 05:46 PM)
CIMB has not been aggressive for FD promo as far as I know for past few years.  biggrin.gif
I don't think so. I did not see the option in the online account.  biggrin.gif
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post Oct 16 2014, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 16 2014, 05:40 PM)
Every action there will always be good and bad reactions. For those who are debt free, should be happy also. Right, "Good" guy ?  tongue.gif
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n also you got good heart not like your friend Ah Boom.

Wonder whether BR can online uplift FD as can see it there. MBB efd can of course, but MBB normal FD can see but not sure whether can uplift online.
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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 16 2014, 05:52 PM)
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n also you got good heart not like your friend Ah Boom.

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You and Ah Boom are my Good Friends. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(magika @ Oct 16 2014, 05:52 PM)
Wonder whether BR can online uplift FD as can see it there. MBB efd can of course, but MBB normal FD can see but not sure whether can uplift online.
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For BR cannot withdraw online, luckily.

Not all FD can withdraw online. Like for CIMB and MBB, only those with "e" there can withdraw online. I know what u mean as I have both normal and e FD for the 2 banks also.

For CB, even though we can place FD online, but cannot withdraw online. I think PBB also the same. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 14 2014, 07:55 PM)
Well, AmBank usually have competitive FD Promos. And the Enrich Miles redemption is also pretty good (for overseas transaction as earn 5X points)

If you ever want another card for airport lounge, I suggest you look into Alliance Bank Privilege Banking because you will be entitled to a FREE FOR LIFE Visa Infinite which comes with Priority Pass Membership Card that grants UNLIMITED entries without you needing to spend a sen anywhere on earth. And you are also entitled to their Platinum card FREE FOR LIFE too which grants you UNLIMITED access to KLIA PPL, get the MasterCard. I would not advise anyone to use the Alliance Bank Visa credit cards overseas because their conversion rate is freaking high. If got time to waste, click here to read my article Visa Infinite - UOB vs Maybank vs Alliance Bank and Best Credit Card for Overseas Transactions.
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Alliance Bank never had FD promos for a long long time, so quite unlikely to go for their cards.

Now hopefully no surprises for the Maybank under table 4% promo on Monday 20 Oct.
I will also try showing my CIMB cheque book but what if we transfer the funds into Maybank account, will it still be considered fresh funds for Maybank?


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Alliance Bank do have FD Promotions, my RM always inform me.
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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Oct 16 2014, 06:36 PM)
Alliance Bank never had FD promos for a long long time, so quite unlikely to go for their cards.

Now hopefully no surprises for the Maybank under table 4% promo on Monday 20 Oct.I will also try showing my CIMB cheque book but what if we transfer the funds into Maybank account, will it still be considered fresh funds for Maybank?
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I can clarify that their promo is still valid for next week coz i just went to ask them today.


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