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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V7, Please Read Post# 1 & 2

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post Nov 14 2014, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Nov 14 2014, 05:17 PM)
I sure lah, you know damn kiasu one. You on the other hand not bothered lah with limit because you got BR for those above RM250K deposits  tongue.gif
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BR is small portion of my portfolio. Do not want Rakyat's money, just in case. Have been pulling out from BR due to rates not that good. Figure maybe 250k or something like that is fair figure, hahaha ! brows.gif tongue.gif

I kiasi also. tongue.gif

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post Nov 14 2014, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 14 2014, 06:10 PM)
I think there will be more good things to come from BR. One of their staff called me just now. It seems they are having a post mortem on their dropping deposits ( cause bbgoat withdraw) . Their enquiry based on how much other banks seem to be offering to enticed our mass withdrawal. biggrin.gif
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Sure their big depositor (you know who, not me) also withdrawing.

That will be good. You should mention their nego rate as one of their attraction, no banker's cheque etc. No one called me .................. cry.gif Small depositor. tongue.gif
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post Nov 14 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 14 2014, 08:58 PM)
PIDM protection is based on one account per bank. Conventional and Islamic is considered as 2 banks though.
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Not so much acct based. It is on per person or individual account in the particular bank.

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 14 2014, 09:00 PM)
RHB online has this Online IBFT @ 80sen only for real time immediate interbank fund transfer.
The cheapest real time online interbank fund transfer as far as I'm concerned.
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CIMB online also has this IBFT "instant transfer" feature. Cost RM 2. RHB one is really cheap. Though have these 2 banks acct but never try this IBFT feature. smile.gif

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post Nov 15 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Nov 15 2014, 01:34 AM)
That is not true. It's max RM250K per account. Go google PIDM and read the examples in PIDM website.

For examples - RM250K limit for following

Your Savings Account in your name - RM250K
Your FD Account in your name - RM250K
Your Savings Account joint with your Mother - RM250K
Your FD Account joint with your mother - RM250K
Your mother, father and you joint FD Account  - RM250K

However please note above is per account per bank. Say you have two Savings Account in your name with Maybank at 2 different branches and both having RM250K deposited, i.e. total RM500K in Savings Accounts in your name with Maybank. The total covered is still only RM250K for the 2 Savings Accounts with Maybank.

And since I damn free, I go get sample for you: PIDM example
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Instead of:
"It's max RM250K per account"

I think more accurate term will be RM250k protection per individual or entity (company account) in particular bank. smile.gif Not account based.

Below copied from the link by Captain (PIDM pdf file):
The RM250,000 deposit insurance limit is applicable per depositor per member bank

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post Nov 15 2014, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Nov 15 2014, 11:36 AM)
Bro click on the PIDM link and see sample, it is per account type plus you get additional if joint account. Therefore adding to your sentence:
RM250k protection for each type of account per individual and joint names in a particular bank.

Did I get it right?

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I think difficult to put in one sentence for the PIDM protection. That's why they did not try to do that, with one sentence.

For joint acct with one more person, you get add'l. But strictly speaking, it is the other person, not you. But if the other person has a single name account in that bank, then no more add'l.

So if A & B has 3 accounts in 1 bank, 2 single names and one joint account, the protection is still RM250k X 2 = RM 500k.

Please correct me if i am wrong. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Nov 15 2014, 11:49 AM)
Okay, I get what you mean! Boy, I really slow.
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Captain on holiday mood already. Going off today ?

Bon voyage !
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post Nov 15 2014, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Nov 15 2014, 12:08 PM)
edit: as an afterthought, those wealthy ppl with 7 figure cash balances won't get PIDM protection then? Or perhaps they swim in different waters?
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There are lots of that type of persons around. Either they don't care and put all in one bank, or spread out 250k X x number of banks for protection. tongue.gif

QUOTE(magika @ Nov 15 2014, 12:57 PM)
they swim in shark infested waters i imagine tongue.gif

I dont believe in Bernas monopoly so i dont eat rice  biggrin.gif

Young man, dont be afraid to make a stand, BR or not its upto personal preferences. MBSB also same loan to civil servant. In fact all banks have personal loan not only for civil servant but everybody. Only few banks have the angkasa auto deduction priviledge though. So boycott certain banks to benefit other banks ? Wat same % pa ! Must start boycott certain company even have loan for pots and pans.
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To me, I still will put in those that give me high rates but spread out my risks. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 16 2014, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 16 2014, 12:41 AM)
Un officially, yes, the other joint account holder can quickly withdraw as long as the bank is not awear of the death.
Officially, the assets will be frozen. Only the appointed administor in the LA can administer the FD. The joint account holder may not be the same person as the administrator.

Then again, if the rightful beneficiary of the assets is a 3rd party, then he/she might want to sue the joint account holder for unlawful withdrawal. Of course the joint account holder also can file a claim for his/her share in the FD.
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Good info and legally speaking that should be the way. thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Nov 16 2014, 12:52 AM)
Yes, can.
Can withdraw the FD before maturity or even upon maturity if one person is pass away, but provided
banks do not know the death news.

If banks know one person is pass away, banks will freeze all this dead person accounts, including
joint account with another person that who is still alive.

So, if one person is dead, never inform the banks that the person is pass away before
all his (dead person) money is fully withdrawn.

And don't advertise the condolence message on the newspaper. I know May Bank is working hard every
day to check on the condolence messages on all newspapers.
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Ah Boom, unofficial underground way. A lot of people doing it. If no legal complication especially without beneficiary issue, then OK (until caught tongue.gif ). biggrin.gif

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post Nov 17 2014, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Nov 16 2014, 11:51 PM)
Yes, Ah Sir Young Magic (Instead of Uncle Magic for temporary). Will post it on Post #2.

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Like !

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Nov 16 2014, 11:51 PM)
Version 8 is your turn to take care of Post #2  brows.gif

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Nov 17 2014, 12:25 AM)
Ah Sir Ah Goat's BR Coop card is also joint account, Ah Sir Goat..can you confirm?  cheers.gif
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Ah Boom Sir, my Coop card is single name. Though have joint acct but did not get Coop card for that acct. smile.gif

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post Nov 18 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 18 2014, 09:57 AM)
RM20 for CASA then should be Basic Saving Account, just make sure its Option 1 meaning without yearly ATM fees.  notworthy.gif
In my opinion going long term for 2 years and above is good decision.

So the basic guide should be RM20 opening deposit for Basic Saving Account.
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Agreed that Affin 2 years 4.38% is the best deal so far, after that RHB 9 mths 4.15%. May have to go the 2 years route at 4.38% for now until a better one comes up. Just early this year was putting in BR for 2 years at 4.25%, then to 4.2%. So Affin 4.38% is GOOD !

Young Magic is a sifu in SA. Learned on the BSA with option 1 from him. Never know about this until now. notworthy.gif

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post Nov 18 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(MisterKibz @ Nov 18 2014, 10:04 AM)
May I know why Bank Rakyat is not inside this list? I heard their rates are the best in Malaysia.....or maybe NOT?  unsure.gif
Bank - FD rates for 1 month, 3 months, 6 months and 12 months.
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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 18 2014, 11:33 AM)
Not a true bank !  laugh.gif
Read my lips, cooperative bank, no PIDM
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Ha ha ha ! Some say insured by Rakyat. laugh.gif tongue.gif

Their rate used to be the best but no more since months ago. I personally still have some bullets there. Their strong point is the monthly interest crediting. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 18 2014, 11:41 AM)
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It still is the best at board rates. Why u compare with promo rates one ? shakehead.gif
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Are you going to use board rate to place FD ? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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An update on using online IBFT (instant version of IBG) to transfer FD interest from RHB. It is immediate transfer to CB. Logged in to CB and saw it just seconds later. Now I am a believer. The cost is 80 cents vs normal online IBG of 10 cents. Worth it if we need the funds. Other banks charges is different for IBFT.

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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 20 2014, 03:30 PM)
Not all branch have the same rules. Usually when placing at banks, efficient counter officers will adjust to next working day. Thats why its a good practice to check maturity day before depositing and also to check maturity amount. Now after maturity, banks dont adjust what can be done ?
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I think the case is due to auto renewal. For the initial depositing, BR system will adjust to next working day for maturity. But after that, on auto renew, it will just go to exactly 1 year later (for yearly renewal). I kena once but as I just asked for new FD cert, so no loss (mature on Sat). smile.gif
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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Nov 20 2014, 04:55 PM)
Noticed that too. That is RM0.001 xtra only for 10k FD, not rm10.. biggrin.gif
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I concur ! rclxms.gif

I used my calculator to check as one glance that it is impossible to be RM10. tongue.gif
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Just received BR Rakyat Xclusive Card. Surprised that BR is now fighting "upmarket" ?

Benefits have been mentioned earlier by some of the fellow forumer. Will be interesting to see where is the Rakyat Xclusive Servie Centre. Maybe Penang will not have one. Even PBB did not have one PB centre in Penang.

Young Magic & Ah Boom, did u guys also receive it ?
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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Nov 20 2014, 11:55 PM)
Ah Sir Ah Goat, my BR FD will mature on Saturday (6 Dec), but my FD cert printed maturity date is next following Monday (8 Dec),
in this case, will I lose one day interest..?
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Ah Boom Sir, as mentioned before, during FD placement, BR system will adjust the FD maturity to next working day. If you calculate the FD interest printed on BR's FD cert., it will show the add'l interest for the non working days. You never check that ? hmm.gif hmm.gif

The only issue is upon auto renewal without getting a new cert, as someone commented, BR system is not that "smart". It just auto renew to the exact cycle eg. exactly 1 year later irrespective of the maturity day (working day or not) for 1 year FD. smile.gif

QUOTE(magika @ Nov 21 2014, 08:30 AM)
Small fry where got received Xclusie Card ! mad.gif
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Before that, the "small fry" is "big fat Cat" which unloaded a lot of the fats ? brows.gif tongue.gif Uncle Magic has moved a lot of fats to other places. rclxms.gif tongue.gif

Noticed that the requirement is minimum 300k CASA or financing of 1 mil. The 2nd requirement surprises me. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Nov 22 2014, 02:02 AM)
I see.. OCBC creates this differentiation is making sense to me. But my FD cert is printed like this: "Renew principal and interest for the same period at the prevailing interest/profit rate"
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Ah Boom Sir, in your post, you must have edited it in mistake. The below is not from me, it is from another forumer. I think I made the comment that the add'l interest is NOT RM10. I have no acct in OCBC yet. tongue.gif Penang OCBC branch is in town where parking is a big headache.

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Nov 21 2014, 10:32 AM)
2) Read thru the internal briefs for Independence Day FD deals (expiring 30 Nov). I noticed all interest rate of 4.100010% p.a. is for the Gold Coin contest. I guess they're doing this on purpose to segregate eligible vs non-eligible depositors. p/s: mine printed 4.100010% p.a. as well as printed instructions to transfer the fund+profit back to my OCBC's SmartSavers account upon maturity.

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QUOTE(gsc @ Nov 22 2014, 09:55 AM)
Parking is not a problem coz there is car park charging Rm1 per hour. The car park is just opposite Ocbc.

Free 1 hour parking for premier customer if you park the car at the car park near the traffic light junction which is quite far away.

By the way, Ocbc has another branch at Batu Maung which is convenient for those staying near factory area
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Lazy to walk. That car park u mentioned short distance away also, also not proper parking lot. When I opened acct in SCB recently for the 4.25%, I did park there. So depends on promotion whether it is enough to lure me there. Anyway, no acct in OCBC there. biggrin.gif

OCBC Batu Maung far away some more. Traveling time and cost comes in. smile.gif
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Have been away from this thread for some time.

QUOTE(magika @ Dec 8 2014, 08:38 AM)
Dont remember what I posted. Just ignore if dont like.
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Report "Young Magic" or "Old" one for double posting ?? brows.gif Lose his Magic, getting old ?? tongue.gif

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 8 2014, 09:52 AM)
I just called to UOB on Jalan Sultan Ismail. BartS is right.

UOB FD Chinese New Year Promotion, valid until 28 Feb 2015
(1) 3.85 for 3 months
(2) 4.10 for 12 months

UOB FD Christmas Promotion, valid until 24th Dec 2014
(1) 4.00% for 6 months
(2) 4.20% for 12 months
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Oh, so UOB Christmas promotion of 12 mths 4.2% is rather attractive. I was thinking of putting some bullet in ASNB fund as they are getting a beating now but UOB rate is attractive. biggrin.gif

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