Also to add to Kev's post, BP is based on your characters attack speed. What makes TnT BiS is because the attack speed stat % on TnT is additive. Example:

Your character have 1.5 + TnT 50% pet attack speed = 2.25.

So in other words TnT totally buffs your AS and enables you to reach high BP's which in turns churns out more spenders. The current sweet spot is

BP 1.46
BP 2.85
BP 4.16

This are the important breakpoints you want to hit. If you're at 3.00... the amount of spenders fired will not be significant so at a fix 2.85, you can optimize your gears. So you can lose some AS in favor of CD or CC. 1.46 would be the minimum for DH to reach and achievable without TnT

Did u get TnT yet bro? I know 2hXbow to achieve 2.85BP need 70% AS + 50% TnT. Its almost impossible. Need to sacrifice too much toughness and chc chd.... susah weii. Hence why bows are favourite now. Easy to hit 2.85 + weapon dmg range close to 2hxbow and cnb churn close to 2× more spenders then 2hxbow at 1.46BP. 70% AS is crazy laaa.

haiya don't be shy lar... post lar that calamity.. Are u using TnT? how much pet attack speed lerr



definitely can lar if 1h xbow. But in higher grifts even with calamity at 32 rift.. i see the kill speed start to slow down. Want to try that helltrapper combo with Calamity

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Sep 5 2014, 10:28 PM

Just lost my 700 vit 18AS 9.5cc 15% sentry dmg nutsack. Lost mood di....

I grind like a madman and still tak jumpa.ramalingham. got 2700 19% colf etrayu, 2910 WF and 2910 Nat Slayer waiting for that soc....

Im aware of that. I'm just short of .5% to ureach that BP. If you read my previous post i did post the optimal BP. 4.15 is sacrifising a lot but i have 2 separate gears for both bp. 1 for optimal 2.85 and 4.15. I'm goin to soc that sweet etrayu 1st if i ever get ramalingham

How to reach 4.15BP with 7%ias 1hbow vs tnt Pet % and how much % AS to achieve

-7% IAS hand crossbow, 4.15bp:
T&T speed:
50%: 61.7%
49%: 62.8%
48%: 63.9%
47%: 65.1%
46%: 66.2%
45%: 67.3%
44%: 68.5%
43%: 69.7%
42%: 70.8%

7 weapon
20 quiver
7 bracer (lacuni, steady strikers)
7 belt (WH, hellcat, fleeting strap)
7 amulet
7 RROG
7 Nat reflect or any other ring with ias
7 taskers (45~50 ias pet, preferably 47+)

Fortunately i actually rolled a unity and soj with socket so i just had to pick 1 stat to roll to AS. It's tough to get 4.15 and only should be done with secondary gear.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Sep 9 2014, 01:23 PM

Time to do ehem... beneficial activities that involves member of the opposite sex..... ehem...

I have to say I finally got my RAMA and socketed my Etrayu... after using it.. i will never turn back.

Actually you can still maximize sentry m6 without TnT. TnT makes it BiS to hit higher BPs for your sentry. Using a trifecta magefist firebuild can also tear T6 in shreds with Rorg. You can use CA:LfB, MS:Arsenal and EA:FA. There's no point using polar sentry as frost arrow already slows everything down. Also, balistics work with fire sentry and if you're moving up grifts, place sentry keep your distance and let cull, steady aim, bane of trapped and enforcer do its job by buffing your damage beyond your imagination. Theres no need for TnT until you get one. Fire build M6 can still tear GR30+. Just just get your character AS at 1.45 and a good 2Hxbow.

If you're planning to grift solo, its always good to have a templar and unity combo. The mitigation is priceless. You get hit half the dmg and at 37 - 38, its most needed but jailer will always one shot u.... hehehehe

@Aleune
Thats why I will never look back. If your hitting FA at 15-19M and 50 cast per frame, its no wonder the leaderboards are filled with Etrayu users. Its just crazy OP

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Sep 11 2014, 06:26 PM

yep. 1st he can heal you a ton on Grift 35+, 2nd he can draw crowds towards him or taunt and with god mode templar relic he cannot die, 3rd with Ess Of Johan he can vacuum mobs towards him. 4th he's not BROKEN and he actually tanks for you. haha.

Well you can use whatever follower you feel is best for you but for a really good functional follower on higher grift solo, def go for templar. Also i love how he protects you when enemies are in melee range. He knocks them back and heals you at the same time. Priceless

If I'm not mistake you're using 1 hander nat slayer right? With nats ring and rorg? The problem is higher grift RG or elites HP scales really high when you're moving up grifts and elite damage bonus starts to really matter. Hence why sojs or unity especially is a must have. For 36 onwards i use unity as it halfs my damage when its equipped to my follower. Jailer eats only a quarter of my HP so its easily fully healed by my templar immediately and with leg gem 25% + 15% from my unity i have 40% bonus dmg vs elite. Also single wield damage range is too small unless your hitting 4.15 BP. If you're hitting 8m-10m frost arrow with 1h crossbow at 2.85 bp and bows are doing 15-20m at the same bp, you might want to consider switching. I think understanding sentry mechanics is highly important if you want to have optimal dmg. There's a lot of info on DH thread and videos to go through to see how effective they are. If you scored a good a good high dps bow, WF, uskang, cluckeye or whatever, use it. It makes a huge difference.

Hahaha... i know that feeling. Dah laaa susah nak dpt. Etrayu is like da bomb till you get 4.15 bp then can change to 1handers. Use la windforce uskang or cluckeye

Everyone knows the answer.......


MANDI BUNGA

You were with me when u rolled that and on top of that u got 2 vaults and loads of other good stuff. I must ban myself feom paetying u di... kekekeke or must charge servuce charge

Your TnT gives you boost aps on sentry. Loosing them your sentry will fire spenders based on you AS. Instead of being able to cast 50 FA per frame, your sentry will only end up casting half. See BP i posted above. Every BP almost doubles the spenders casts by sentry. Another issue is, you can have 100% elite bonus but if you're not clearing white trash fast enough on higher grift then it won't do much good. Further to that, bane leg gem gives 25% and unity 15% and with bt set amulet and belt you cn get another 15% and elite damage reduction 15%. All this without sacrising TnT

Congratz! Still long way to go to optimize M6 but you should be progressing faster now that you can goreng T6 and grift. Btw should go for cold build. For higher GR in thhe future as you will be using a lot of Cold skill.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Sep 17 2014, 10:11 AM

Its mandatory as everything will insta kill you and you'd have to start back at checkpoint and run all the way back. You can equip cameo but if you have a badly rolled one then you will have another issue which is dps unles you have one with CC CHD. The rule of the thumb is stay as.far as you possibly can. Even jailer has mac range. Btw jailer only halfs your HP at 37 with untiy and templar will insta heal you once and you have pot on standby

@fabvader the problem with pain enhancer is the damage is so smal on higher griftd it becomes completely insignificant and unless you need ias to hit the next bp, any ias wilk be insignificant to your sentry cast rate. Rule of thumb

1.5
2.17
2.84
4.15

This bp is set instone so that if you hit one of those BP you can optimize your gear with other stats such as chc or chd to improve CA FA or MS damage. I think what your doing is pumping more AS so that your sentry shoots more spenders but it isn't the case. Its actually gimping your sentries damage

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Sep 17 2014, 09:44 PM

I can't tell you how i achieved the impossible last night but i got

Calamity
Kridershot
Etrayu
TnT

All that in 1 run. Well, unfortunately it didn't roll well BUTi did get 2700 dps Calamity. Gave the Etrayu and TnT away and the krider in museum. Guys in clan was shocked. And the icing, 4 ramalinghams

Well the trick is to have you sentry just partially out of frame... this one is tricky as you need to budget. What i normally do is place 3 out of frame and 1 within frame. I always place sentry ahead of me and when i face an elite. I'll vault back and place one right by my side so if they come forward i always have a backup sentry near me and vault back some more. Takes practise but that way you always have a sentry to slow them down everytime they come forward.