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Deckard Cain
post Sep 18 2014, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Sep 18 2014, 05:28 PM)
When you meet certain BP, it affects the number of times those spenders are casted. thats all.

More BP, more spenders being fired :)
Thats all I know la. for now, I sedang main elak-mengelak HAHAHA. Still new to M6 :P
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Actually it doesn't. If you don't meet the next Bp you sentry will be firing the samw rate hence when you hit 2.85, whatever extra AS is unnecessary so you optimize your dmg by adding CHD and CHC.

Why 4.15 is OP?

2.85 cast 48 FA per frame
4.15 cast 100 FA per frame

Any AS not reaching 4.15bp is insigificant
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post Sep 18 2014, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(dolceping @ Sep 18 2014, 07:24 PM)
guys i have 1 question on cull of the weak (cotw) proc
its for slowed & chilled enemies

sentry: spitfire - doesnt proc CotW but +100% rockets damage
CA: Maelstorm - cold - doesnt proc cotw
only Frost arrows proc cotw

why spitfire instead of polar station (chill & slow)?
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Because ballistics goes well with spitfire with the added rockets and furthermore EA FA already slows everything down hence there is no use for polar. Remember, ea FA hits 11 targets per hit spread out. Your sentry casts 40 FA per frame at 2.85 BP.
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post Sep 18 2014, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 18 2014, 07:32 PM)
Because ballistics amplifies spitfire damage and goes well with spitfire with the added rockets and furthermore EA FA already slows everything down hence there is no use for polar. Remember, ea FA hits 11 targets per hit spread out. Your sentry casts 40 FA per frame at 2.85 BP.
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post Sep 19 2014, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(PirateKing @ Sep 18 2014, 11:48 PM)
Dear DH sifu.

My HP kinda tofu. Have to run everywhere and dodging this and that.
It seem kinda funny though.

Here my profile.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Plusmin...0/hero/52523953
Still haven't see any TNT and Marauder Helm yet,
Still looking for Ramaladni gift so that I can reroll my socket to something else and put Ramaladni gift into it.
Anyway, what I should reroll the socket to? VIT? ASPD? or?

Thanks!
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Without TnT, magefist M6 fire build is the best spec. Get a trifecta magefist with high fire % and SoJ with fire damage. You want to stack sentry dmg % on quiver, chest and shoulders while Cluster arrow % on boots and helm. Skill wise I suggest using

Elemental Arrow - immolation arrow
Multishot - Arsenal
Cluster Arrow - loaded for bear

Since you do not have TnT i suggest you get your AS to 1.45 with 2hxbow with 50cc and 400chd. This is an optimal build without TnT and was the best build before 2.1 and still is for non TnT. At the meantime, while you're getting loots, keep those cold dmg SoJ for future use. Keep farming and gambling for helm. It shouldn't be too long before you get one. Good luck

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post Sep 22 2014, 07:31 PM

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Got another calamity yesterday with 7% dmg so rolled another stat to 7% ias so total dps increase only 2532 but good for 4.15 with me thinks. Funnily enough i join game with clanmate Jiro and he was complining he never got one b4 then few minutes later.... jeng jeng. Cala dropped. Must be my aura...... bwahahahaha
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post Sep 25 2014, 05:44 AM

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Got some pretty decent stuff in 2 hours gameplay. New patch favors me I guess

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and 2 ramaladingdongs. Not bad for 2 hours
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post Sep 25 2014, 12:18 PM

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Don't worry l. You will sure get rama. Once upon a time when everyone got i tarak... farm like mad. Then suddenly got 8 di. If we farm again i get pass to u. Btw, i mmg only do rifts. Never do gr.. got 300 trial key. I run rifts over and over and over again. Non stop. Rng is rng. That krider was unexpected but somehow i have a feeling its coz i started a new DH. Just like i did my crusader everythong just drops. Now my new dh also experiencing the same thing
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post Sep 29 2014, 03:46 PM

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Kalu nak cheat pakai short cut guna Gogok leg gem..
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post Oct 4 2014, 11:56 AM

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Nowadays i casual di. off and on play hehehehe.. in pursuit of happiness
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post Oct 5 2014, 12:56 AM

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just got mine given with dex vit 20AS and 8.5cc. THx Timmy for the nutsack! now rolling that 15%
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post Oct 6 2014, 02:50 PM

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Enforcer and bane of trapped is pretty much mandatory the 3rd could be anything from pain enhancer, gogok, toxin, bane if powerful or hoarder.
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post Oct 7 2014, 01:23 AM

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I HAVE MADE THE 4.15BP CLUB!!!!
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post Oct 7 2014, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 7 2014, 07:19 AM)
just got my TNT so how's the calculation again?
so if my char's AS is 1.99 and TNT 49% pet attack speed, it'll be 2.96 - correct?
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Correct. At 49% you willl need 2.79APS to hit 4.15. Having
7AS on weapon is crucial. Basically will need

7% weapon
20% quiver
7% bracers
7% both rings
7% gloves
5% Witching Hour
10% paragon points

I won't suggest amulet as it is the only gear that gives you tons of CHD and CC. Btw, i won't suggest polar station as frost arrow + bane of trapped already slows down everything. Furthermore ballistics won't work well with polar.

Thanks lksing. You will get there for sure. I've been farming that TNT for ages. Last missing pc to complete

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post Oct 7 2014, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 7 2014, 04:09 PM)
bane of trapped level 25 slowdown is within short range, helpful with cull of the weak BUT i usually stay far far far away from targets.

currently my hellfire amulet uses steady aim so staying far away does help.

as for gems, I'm currently using
- bane of the powerful for that 15% vs elite, PLUS that bonus after killing elite. at rank 25 the duration lasts for 55 seconds.
- pain enhancer to cause physical bleed upon crit.

would bane of the trapped with "Increase damage against enemies under control-impairing effects" still be a better choice after reach level 50?
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Thats where you have Frost Arrow. Per FA breaks into 11 pcs spreading out so it practically slows everything Mind you also that a lot of enemies get to you, in higher grifts that slow effect is soo crucial because everything 1 hit kills you at 38 and above. Having trapped is like having insurance coverage slowing down mobs just in time for you to vault out. Also I've never dropped my pets. Companion buffs for me is a must have. Dufferent ppl have different experiences i guess but party wise yeah you could drop pets if there's a tanker but losing 30% wolf damage? I'm not too sure about that.

Another thing is having 4 spenders. It definitely is possible but you're bottlenecking your main damage spenders. Instead of shooting 13 CA which is your main nuke, you instead choke it with 1 extra spender and CA casts 6shots per frame. Hence why ppl only run 3. 3 because the 3rd spender will take the place of normal bolts fired by sentry. If you use 2 spenders, it goes like this, MS 2 casts, CA1 cast and normal crappy blank bolts 2 casts per sec. But if you add in FA, it replaces the blank bolts hence optimizing sentry damage. I hope this explanation is clear.

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post Oct 7 2014, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(pangke @ Oct 7 2014, 04:20 PM)
hello fellow DH users
i've been out of the game months ago and started playing again recently.
i read most of the thread and can't understand anymore the jargons lol
so what's the optimum build for a DH now?
last time i played i have a 3 pc mara with natalya's and CA loaded for bear comboed with punishment for hatred replenishment...now based from what i've read pets and sentries are the way to go
so what should i be looking for? thanks in advance!
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My advise, farm for 5 pc Marauders, farm Act1 bounty for ring of royal grandeur and bombardier rucksack and a taskers and theo gloves if you're super lucky. This will set you up for M6 sentry build. Once you get these feel free to post more questions. Definitely try our best to answer them but those items are a must have for M6 sentry build.

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post Oct 8 2014, 04:44 AM

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Just tried Nat set with 370k HP 8M toughness with 4.15BP for the heck of it and... i finished GR38. Its fun. Gonna run with Calamity next with SoJ to see how far i can go. I'm assuming it will outdps Nat Set. Calamity at 4.15bp feels like playing WD. Cast MfD and everything melts. For higher GR, I will not bother with toughness as everything one shots you anyway so 8M toughness and everything on DPS. I've tried 40 at 14M tougness and jailer still one shots you so don't bother.
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post Oct 8 2014, 12:06 PM

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650 Ar at 8m and 1100 AR at 14M. I also wore BT set at 14M with 15% elite reduc to test power. Guess what. 1 shotted. Hahaha. Now i know why leaderboard p DH have only 6-8M toughness. They have to go glass cannon to kill fast and ignore toughness because everything one shots you anyway

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post Oct 8 2014, 01:51 PM

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As i far as I'm concern even the zombie ah moi spit at you from far will 1 shot you. Guaranteed affix on grift frozen, thunderstorm, jailer, arcane, electrified. Any one of these touches you.. RIP. Having countess won't really matter. Why i won't use countess is i don't need the AS. Its increase in speed won't matter to my sentry unless i really need to hit my next BP which shouldn't be the case because any gear can give you 7AS but only ammy and gloves can give you 10CC. So to sum it up, you have to keep your distance vault like crazy and pray grift is kind to you and gives you zombie heaven and not A5 mobs. Btw, thats a good suggestion lk because currently damage scaling in grifts requires all affix damage reduc. Maybe 30%.... 50 a bit thr godly la

Helltrapper is nice until you meat RD mob. Also, at 38 onwards say bye bye to self casting. You'll be spending more time vaulting placing sentry and avoiding nukes. I think nat set would be an easier and better option since i was able to clear 38 comfortably with it but that's at 4.15bp. Just need good rolls on ring and nat slayer.

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post Oct 8 2014, 08:57 PM

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Gabby fished rift. He fished zombie land that allowed him to clear GR42 with trapper. If trapper/lighting is OP, the leaderboards would be filled with that 1 build. The thing about lightning is you have to self cast if you to stun. Sentry won't proc it for you. Gr38 above, you won't even get the chance to self cast. I think in groups lightning would be beneficial though. Just can't stand the lag attack.

@goldfries actually averaging at 650. The tanking days of 1.08 is over. We're back to ranged glasscannon only this time your sentry does the firing instead

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post Oct 10 2014, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(elonjoy @ Oct 10 2014, 09:12 PM)
Really hard to get a good roll. I sacrifice my 3 ramaldani just to get a good roll but so far i can only reach GR 29 sigh..
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There's higher chance getting good rolls on crafing then waiting for that rng luck BiS bow to drop. Also, don't use ramaladingdong on average weapons. Use what you have till you get something worth the gift. I stuck to my crafted arcane barb crafted bow then farmed. Once i got that nice upgrade bow, i used rama on it. Also a super high dps unbound bolt can outdps a lot of other bows.

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