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post Jan 21 2015, 05:10 PM

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this is my current build, i am using ball lightning as the main attack as i can only spam CA for like 3 - 4 times only, still looking for a good pride's fall to compensate the hatred reduce. not sure if this is a good idea, so please do comment smile.gif

i am thinking to change all the +15% CA damage to +15% ele damage instead...

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post Jan 22 2015, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 20 2015, 11:10 AM)
krider will work just fine in normal rift, but in higher gr u will have problem with hatred regeneration, bare in mind your main dmg is still from your cluster arrow, krider probaly just work as hatred regen, coz the dmg from elemental arrow in higher gr is scratching on mobs body only.

y i mention any good 2h xbow/bow would work just fine with rcr,
Krider - +4 hatred shooting elemental arrow
primary evasive fire +7 hatred . which giv u faster hatred regen when u r waiting cooldown from preparation-punishment and companion dmg. more bullet = more dmg smile.gif

try it on greater rift you will know the different. normal rift definitely cant treat as benchmark.
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Just made few round tests, I must said you're right on this part.

I got an ancient Natalya's 1Hxbow, about 3k+ base dmg. I tried to swap it with my Krider, change elemental arrow to evasive fire.

Oh boy, the super fast atk speed of 1Hxbow refill my hatred really fast, and I was spamming CA almost every second.

And yeah, I clear the same level of GRift much faster than using Kridershot.

Now I just hope for an ancient Etrayu hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dolceping @ Jan 21 2015, 04:45 PM)
Kong Eng and dear sifus, what gems do you for solo grifts?

i know enforcer is out, should i replace it with Toxin or BoP? i saw some put Taeguk (not sure for swift Nrifts or grift).

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Bop,bot,zei.

Trial
Bot,zei,enforcer

I cant said enforcer totally not useful, but i seen ppl doing trial with enforcer with better result. Youtube 2.1.2 solo trial 54. These guy demo how to solo trial 54 using bot zei enforcer

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post Jan 22 2015, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jan 22 2015, 12:50 AM)
Just made few round tests, I must said you're right on this part.

I got an ancient Natalya's 1Hxbow, about 3k+ base dmg. I tried to swap it with my Krider, change elemental arrow to evasive fire.

Oh boy, the super fast atk speed of 1Hxbow refill my hatred really fast, and I was spamming CA almost every second.

And yeah, I clear the same level of GRift much faster than using Kridershot.

Now I just hope for an ancient Etrayu  hmm.gif
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Great find smile.gif now u can feel the diff of hatred regen from aspd we have. the patch is just like only a week. There will more to be discover. I have seen ppl using 1h clearin high gr, and many running multishot. Stay tuned and keep trying. Most of all enjoy the game

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i also have 1 nat slayer, don know where i lost my nat reflection, if not i can test m6+nat. it shud be fun smile.gif i have run it with nat slayer+nat boot+m6 but without cinder/pride is really not enough to feel the power.

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post Jan 22 2015, 04:33 AM

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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Jan 21 2015, 05:10 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/hikki-1994/hero/53196203

this is my current build, i am using ball lightning as the main attack as i can only spam CA for like 3 - 4 times only, still looking for a good pride's fall to compensate the hatred reduce. not sure if this is a good idea, so please do comment smile.gif

i am thinking to change all the +15% CA damage to +15% ele damage instead...
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M6 ,Pride fall for cold, cindercoat for fire, weapon with -10% rcr , reaper wraps is basic requirement for CA build. How we can keep shooting CA is a style of rotating the skill for hatred regen.

Shoot ca >Preparation - punishment > shoot ca > companion> shoot ca > evasive fire (1-2 shot)>shoot ca> repeat these till your preparation/companion ready and repeat. Or picking health globe. The ryhthm of shooting CA.

If still not enough. I would suggest u go for multishot instead of elemental. Multishot arsenal aoe is powerful and cost less and all target range. Elemental are really not power enough. And i would suggeat u keep a few set gear for diff build. Don roll away your existing dmg %. U never know when they will turn useful

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post Jan 22 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 22 2015, 04:08 AM)
Great find smile.gif now u can feel the diff of hatred regen from aspd we have. the patch is just like only a week. There will more to be discover. I have seen ppl using 1h clearin high gr, and many running multishot. Stay tuned and keep trying. Most of all enjoy the game

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i also have 1 nat slayer, don know where i lost my nat reflection, if not i can test m6+nat. it shud be fun smile.gif i have run it with nat slayer+nat boot+m6 but without cinder/pride is really not enough to feel the power.
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Hi do you mind share with me your fire skill set?

I have the relevant equipment for fire build but I have no idea which skill is able to replace the all powerful Maelstrom.

(I got ancient cindercoat but didn't use)

(Also, I assume fire build wont need the ballistic passive since not so much of rockets?)

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post Jan 22 2015, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jan 22 2015, 12:40 PM)
Hi do you mind share with me your fire skill set?

I have the relevant equipment for fire build but I have no idea which skill is able to replace the all powerful Maelstrom.

(I got ancient cindercoat but didn't use)

(Also, I assume fire build wont need the ballistic passive since not so much of rockets?)
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is equivalent to cold build. just swap cindercoat ,and soj /reaper to fire. ballistic to archery for xbow 50% chd

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/kongeng...onetta/14293077

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post Jan 22 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 22 2015, 12:53 PM)
is equivalent to cold build. just swap cindercoat ,and soj /reaper to fire. ballistic to archery for xbow 50% chd

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/kongeng...onetta/14293077
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thanks a lot, will try it tonight. BTW I will stick to my ancient nat slayer since that's the only ancient high dps wep i have. (without rama!)

Eh one more thing, I just notice you still keep Cull of Weak and Bane of Trapped.

Can share where you got the crowd control effect from, is it Zei's stone's secondary effect?

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Dh passive are too strong. u need both the steady aim and ctw. need make full use of it . Simple method first polar station drop on target. Then other 4 proc zei from distance. These method u proc both ctw and bot , zei as well.

Oh ya the one u see in diabloprogress that my fire party build. My team mate will do the crowd control

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feeling stronk now brows.gif
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ok on serious note, how hell ppl can play high grift wen u get 1 shot by everything?
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post Jan 22 2015, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 22 2015, 02:07 PM)
Dh passive are too strong. u need both the steady aim and ctw. need make full use of it . Simple method first polar station drop on target. Then other 4 proc zei from distance. These method u proc both ctw and bot , zei as well.

Oh ya the one u see in diabloprogress that my fire party build. My team mate will do the crowd control
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but but... polar station no rocket like spit fire turret rclxub.gif
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post Jan 23 2015, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jan 22 2015, 09:55 PM)
feeling stronk now  brows.gif
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ok on serious note, how hell ppl can play high grift wen u get 1 shot by everything?
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wow! so nice!
still no ancient weapon for me but at long last i got a BR 2 nights ago

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post Jan 23 2015, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jan 22 2015, 09:55 PM)
feeling stronk now  brows.gif
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ok on serious note, how hell ppl can play high grift wen u get 1 shot by everything?
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post Jan 23 2015, 09:19 AM

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actually i got same question as Olman... GR35 ok but anything above is really tough, wonder how they manage it within the timer...
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post Jan 23 2015, 09:41 AM

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i can't get past GR30 lol
sometimes i finish within the timer, sometimes can't. depending on the density of enemies. and to think that i am already paragon level 450
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QUOTE(olman @ Jan 22 2015, 09:55 PM)
feeling stronk now   brows.gif


ok on serious note, how hell ppl can play high grift wen u get 1 shot by everything?
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Positioning, understand mobs characteristc, don't stay static at one spot, wing assassins and the lizard guy love to hit u when u stay still. I did my 46 without any smoke screen or vault, just careful once awareness proc. i m gambling wit them, kill em before they kill you.

yesterday the lyn team had make it to 53, and gain great margin in 54 but gr boss crusader king ruing everything. we definitely can do better

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i was running multishot and vierge on ca, i would suggest u guy to start keeping gear for multishot. thank me later

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post Jan 23 2015, 12:33 PM

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er... for some reason I find it's more fun to manage and fine tune your skill (gear) than go out and hit the mobs...
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post Jan 23 2015, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jan 23 2015, 12:33 PM)
er... for some reason I find it's more fun to manage and fine tune your skill (gear) than go out and hit the mobs...
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if u don't go out and hit how u wanna fine tune your skill? mayb that the misconception. too gear dependent. when having all the gear and still cant make it, must be the guy got lucky then. if u wanna break higher u need to breakthrough yourself first.

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It is not tuned when it is not tested. What are you tuning against?
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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 23 2015, 01:00 PM)
if u don't go out and hit how u wanna fine tune your skill? mayb that the misconception. too gear dependent. when having all the gear and still cant make it, must be the guy got lucky then. if u wanna break higher u need to break yourself first.
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QUOTE(qicquser @ Jan 23 2015, 01:08 PM)
It is not tuned when it is not tested. What are you tuning against?
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I means, get super excited when tuning for new build. When go hitting mob with the build, like 2 rounds of GRift then feels like same and got bore again. (Am I getting too bore with the game?)

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