finally someone started this N4 thread...

for me... no brainer. if want something that people will talk about... edge.

but if want something that is practical, note4.

taken from the OnePlus One thread, my opinion on edge:

i read one article... the writer spoke briefly and unofficially with Samsung staff, seems using Qualcomm QuickCharge (technology) compatible chargers will also work and give similar results.

samsung said available in Oct... i guess for Malaysia, maybe end Nov to Dec...

This post has been edited by mydragoon: Sep 4 2014, 02:53 PM

personally for me... i wish Samsung cut down or somehow give us option to remove the bloat and un-necessary stuffs like all the hubs and KNOX.

i feel they should not try to do everything. there are plenty of good enterprise security out there. if people want to use it, let the user's company decide. example of such application is Mobile Iron. no need to bog down the phone with all extras which most consumers won't use anyway. no doubt its got fast processor, but if not necessary, then dun let it run la.

i wish there's an AOSP version (maybe Google Play edition) that has got the s-pen applications. that's all i need.

From: http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung...ote-4-hands-on/
The charger at least comes with fast-charging capability and the phone maker claims that the battery will charge 30 percent faster when you use the charger that comes in the box. I clarified with Samsung that it chose a proprietary solution instead of licensing Qualcomm's QuickCharge tech, but it insisted that you could still use QuickCharge 2.0-compatible chargers to achieve the same results.

benny888

easy... ppl complain because its always easy to whine. ask them what they want (like below) and...

yes, very good Q. honestly, many here complain for the sake of complaining. when asked what they want... they really don't know. or perhaps what they want isn't something technically feasible or possible... like maybe put a 5.7" screen into a 4.7" body, or want a 5.7" phone that lasts a week and can read mind, make coffee, etc...

seriously, if they look at what is currently available (the technology) they should realise there's nothing much at the moment but just incremental. we've reached the stage of maturity similar to the PC (till the next bit tech comes along to change things). we can only expect perhaps lower prices (then again, with GST, etc... flat chance).

not many talking about the VR feature.

personally, I'm also not into VR. but one article I read regarding note 4 is interesting. it talks about John Carmack's involvement when it comes to VR for note 4.

seems like he may have helped/ suggested certain performance improvements. not sure if this is only for VR or applicable for general use well.

yes, VR is niche and I don't even see a need for it.

but the headset... might make a nice home cinema experience.

but more importantly, John Carmack's involvement which I think helped make note 4 performance even better.

from: http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/04/samsung...r-john-carmack/

I'm not into drawing... so those pressure stuff useless.

but I use it a lot to crop stuff from the screen and then share/ edit. yes... that's how useful it can be. for me anyway.

and ya, during meetings, use it for note taking.

I still can't live without the s pen. so, as tempting as other points might be (like the OnePlus One) I'm still hooked to note series.

errr... in your case, any big screen phones (and cheap like OnePlus One) would serve you well, no?

errr... i'm the opposite. i prefer darker themes. amoled do justice to dark/black backgrounds.

imho... i think edge will be around. but it'll be quite nice in its current form. display at side may not cut it. i'd think better to have the display at the top. but... that means the earphone port, etc needs to be moved. or unless Samsung decides to bundle with good stereo BT earphones and eliminate earphones port.

for me... very much the opposite. love the colours on the AMOLED screen and when i look at other screens, the others look so dull.

interestingly, the articles says the "fake" colours is due to

cold and greenish... i'd assume means blue and green.

hmmm... my experience with AMOLED is more on the warmer colours -- yellow, orange, red. i thought these were the colours that make the screen look "brighter" and more colourful???

This post has been edited by mydragoon: Sep 8 2014, 09:30 AM

probably kinda obvious, but thought it'd still be good to share..

note series isn't really a single-handed device. after all, it's got the s-pen and the s-pen is what makes note series stand out and be a unique phablet.

honestly, this type of Q is hard to answer.

if you wear those tight jeans... like those GT girls, even a small phone pun susah mau masuk la...

me... these days, i use cargo pants. banyak pocket for gadgets.

but regular jeans... also fine. i have no issues putting the phone into jeans.

wow... seriously, i always thought the fake colours was due to the warmer colours like RED, YELLOW and ORANGE. never noticed it is greenish/ blueish. been using note 1 and then note 2... never noticed it. and i watch quite a fair bit of movies... heh heh... well, maybe like i always said... i'm not that fussy... but i do like the colours on AMOLED rather than those on non-AMOLED. when i look at the non-AMOLED, they look abit 'faded'.

usd199 seems like a decent price.

Then again, standalone Rift headset, as per article above, may start from USD200. getting standalone means at least the VR set is not dependent on something (the Gear VR currently works only with Note 4).

However, advantage of Gear VR is that its wireless.

how useful is this? personally for me... not useful. but if i had to choose between this or edge, i'd go with this instead of edge (sorry note edge...)

edit 1: ouch, no audio... will need own earphones plugged into note4... what the...?!?
see: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/ge...arvr_specs.html

This post has been edited by mydragoon: Sep 9 2014, 10:27 AM

i think you should get yourself a bookbook™

freedom. phone out of the box. u take a photo. can share with me via BlueTooth?

i don't like the default/ stock keyboard. i prefer to swipe. can i do that with the phone you have in mind?

my friend made a good home video and its on a Sandisk Dual Thumdrive (the one with regular usb and microusb ends). can i plug into my phone, copy the video and watch on my phone immediately?

my 32GB phone is running out of internal storage. can i plug in a 64GB microSD card and give myself more space?

dem... for a minute there, i thought u were talking about... iphone.

ppl nowadays use wassap, but u still got choice, either email, icloud or dropbox. bluetooth pairing takes some time and also got security issues
whatapp reduces the filesize. not everyone uses iCloud. not everyone uses DropBox. won't it be good if i could just touch the phones and "beam" the photo? and seriously... that guy is in front of me now. i need to tell him that i can only share with him by uploading it to the cloud or send via email? yes, they do achieve the purpose... just like you can go and dig your nose by making your hand go round the back of your head first. technology is to make life convenient.

swipe is needed bcos android has poor typing experience, and bad predictive algorithms. so swipe was the make-fix. but with larger screen phones swipe becomes a bit silly because need both hands to hold it anyways
i swipe perfectly on my note 2. its a BIG phone. in fact, i find swiping much easier than touching the letters on a keyboard. this is called improvement. swiping is a gesture that is derived from touch interface. very much like how we swipe left, right, pinch, etc... pressing on buttons is based on hardware keys like what we had with those old phones. some keyboards with swipe feature... you don't even need to lift your finger and it can actually do a complete sentence (including space bar). that's progress and that's also why Apple realised it and now allow 3rd party keyboards.

please learn to accept and embrace change.

android is suitable for this purpose. but do u do this often enough
yes, i do share files this way. OTG. thumb drives. microSD. you asked for the meaning of freedom. hence, i am giving you explanation on what freedom is all about on Android. and more.

it is same question if u got 1 tb of space requirement, what do u do?
yeah, most android phones got external mem support but surprisingly, not the nexus series!
sd cards are insecure and prone to malfunctions. u shld do a proper file management housekeeping.
house keeping is an excuse for people who don't have the storage. i have the storage and i should be entitled to do what i want with it. again, this is freedom. freedom of choice. i can choose a phone with microSD if i like it. or i can go with a nexus if i prefer the cloud. and seriously... insecure? i've yet to hear of mass security breach due to photos stored on microSD card... but i recall recently about some photos "stolen" from iCloud.

it boils down to user. smart use know how to use the smartphone.

but more importantly... its about freedom. freedom to choose what i want. be it 5" phone. or 7". or with microSD or not. or whether i can swipe.

This post has been edited by mydragoon: Sep 12 2014, 09:59 AM

yes, agreed that both platforms have their pros and cons though both platform seems to get identical with each iteration, like Apple becoming less strict and opening up whereas Google is closing and locking down more some aspects.

ultimately, it's the choice of the person who will buy and use the phone.

when people ask... i share with them what i think. both are good in their own ways and i have send a fair share of people towards Apple as i have sent to Android.

to each his own.

yes, i know. even Google AOSP keyboard these days can swipe (if i recall correctly).

but due to my personal preference, i actually prefer Swype.

and again, this is what i mean by "freedom". we can choose how we use the phone.

This post has been edited by mydragoon: Sep 12 2014, 01:16 PM