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twincharger07
post Oct 7 2014, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 7 2014, 01:44 PM)
Yes, pre-launch closer to main road was closer to RM700K only but was sold out very quickly

I would say Average price for the 2-storey is closer to RM820K before rebates - net is about RM780K

Now Phase 2 is saying before rebate of RM850K only.  So after rebates is ???
Bro, if we had in B&W that future development was Semi-D, Bungalows, we would have taken this to Court already.

The fact is I and my Wife was told on 3 different occasions by 3- different sales staff that Future sales was only Semi-D, Bungalows, etc and their so-called Plans on the Tables also shows that.

Are u saying that Phase 2 comes with better or worse features compared to Phase 1?  I don't think it will be worse, after all, its G&G, suppose to be Landed Strata with better management of Security, Landscapes, etc. Of course, monthly maintenande will be higher but the question, is what is the launch price ?? Just RM30K more means GARPU YOU to previous buyers.
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I thought ph2 850k is only 2 rows? just like what they did to ph1 730k for 2 rows only..
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post Oct 7 2014, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 7 2014, 02:21 PM)
so what is the average price for Phase 2?  Unless its closer to RM1 mln many of us in Phase 1 won't be happy...
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thats why not to draw conclusion that soon yet.. need to get more info from Trop.
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post Oct 7 2014, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 7 2014, 05:25 PM)
Bro strata title is up to 3-years to be developed. It does not mean that the Developer will take 3-years to complete.
Reason is cos Strata has always been associated with highrise units where time is needed for Foundation and structural works compared to 2-storey or 3-storey Landed development.

It is always in the developer best interest to complete the project ASAP and no developer will want to take 3-years to complete a landed strata when it can be completed in 2-yrs

I can easily afford loan of additional RM150K to even RM200K more than my current loan.  But I can't afford another RM800K loan.

If u read the feedback, there are also many other buyers in my shoes, all told the same story that Phase 1 is the ONLY link-house development, buy now or miss the Boat and in less than 10-months, they launch another link-house with superior features with only a  marginal price increase.

It would be odd if u do not feel the least angry.

As I said, Developers have always been mindful to preserve the Capital Value of their previous launches.  If you launch a bigger and better new launch as only a fraction price increase, the capital value of the previous phase will suffer.

Now to me, its not really important cos I plan to give this property to my children but is it what a responsible and reputable developer should be doing?

Say that u buy from me know but u can suffer in the future.

I think we should not argue too much on who is right or wrong but make a consensus on whether we should proceed with sending the Letter of Demand to Tropicana.

I hope someone will agree to take charge to compile the list of buyers and send the LoD to Tropicana via Registered Letter.
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http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt/fileupload/schedule_h.pdf

Schedule H take 3 years..

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post Oct 8 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Col @ Oct 7 2014, 07:41 PM)
Perhaps 7inch bro can shed some light to bro cfa? Twincharger taikor, any special message you wish to highlight under schedule H? Can learn something from you? rclxms.gif
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Schedule H take 3 years..
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Oct 8 2014, 09:58 AM)
Alright bro.

I understand your frustration but sorry to hear all that. Chill down bro and lets see how u guys can get more info from the dev.

I couldnt comment much bcz I didnt study much of the TH masterplan and exact land status or details btw Phase 1 and 2. And unknown of what facilities offered for the Phase 2 since purely G&G.

However, If Phase 1 and 2, I assume if really same number of units, same land size, same built up, no contrast of the location of Phase 2 is nearer to HTC, STP or etc. i willing to top up about 10% for Phase 2.

But from the above, Phase 1 is smaller land size at 22x70 vs Phase 2 22x75 ( although 5 ft long is minimal but additional 110 sq ft ), built up also larger a bit. So, if only 5% increased, it would be a dampen if both phases consist of more than 600 units. Moreover, Phase 1 completed in 2015 while Phase 2, schedule in 2017. The Phase 1 price upon subsale will boost Phase 2 by the time of 2017-18.

Anyhow, this is just my small small 2 cent of info.
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Strata title schedule H takes 3 years..
Yes, additional 1 year of Interest and 1 year of opportunity cost..
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 8 2014, 10:38 AM)
Bro, like I said before, strata title can take up to 3-years. It does not mean that the Developer will take 3-yrs to complete the job when they can do so in 2-years and proceed to the next Phase / project.

Even for Phase 1 = 2-years under Schedule G - does not mean that the Developer will not try to copmplete the job in less than 24-months

If there is no need for extensive Groundworks / piling or structural works for highrise, why would the Developer want to take additional 1-year to do the job.  Opportunity cost to Developer is higher than to Buyer.

I went to Diamond City - it is also under Schedule H for Landed Strata but sales staff said job will be completed in about 2-years
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I think there is too much assumption here.. y not let the dust settle down and see what is the next course of action..
just chill and enjoy the day first
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Oct 8 2014, 12:08 PM)
Yes boss, 1 year additional of interest ( estimated ) but importantly 1 year of opportunity cost, for me it's 2 years because Phase 1 schedule to completed 2 years earlier than Phase 2 based on info above.

Any idea what is the total units of Phase 1 and Phase 2?
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289 ph1 + 481 ph2 = 770 units
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 8 2014, 01:33 PM)
Bro, the 481 includes the 3-storey Cluster Units?
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Yes... ph2 has more units than ph1

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post Oct 8 2014, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 8 2014, 01:51 PM)
I have yet to visit the Sales Gallery to view the Phase 2.

I am just an ordinary buyer only lah
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I didnt visit show unit... just collect wind...
Lets get more detail 1st ... 289 units vs 481 units...
ph1 might has lesser units per perimeter fencing/guardhouse/security/linear park..
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post Oct 8 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 8 2014, 02:41 PM)
What's the prop prices surrounding that area - K2, N92??? with similar or close to Trop land size & BU?
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MKH and Nadayu are known for their product defects and poor finishing..
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post Oct 8 2014, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 8 2014, 04:18 PM)
Bad move, have all sort of unwanted biz like Mamak, Car Workshop, etc

MKH First Township Project was Pelangi Semenyih - how is that doing

Also Kajang East, another Township Project

Anyone visited the above 2 projects
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Metro early township was Bukit Mewah Kajang more than 20 years ago... Pelangi Semenyih was later on
quite some complain about their workmanship..

They have a clubhouse on Bukit Mewah, Metro Inn Hotel, Metro Plaza and Metro Point shopping Mall all in Kajang.

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post Oct 8 2014, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 8 2014, 04:22 PM)
like i said, they just built then after complete, hand over and wash hand...

the only developer that i saw still take good care on their projects are sp setia and sunrise...

setia alam is almost mature and actually handover to local authority to take care on the public places but sp setia still put effort to beautify all the landscape at public area...

sunrise mont kiara...is under DBKL attention..but sunrise still provide security service...beautify the landscape at roadside...

MKH... whistling.gif
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agree tat sps n sunrise took care of their setia alam n mk township pretty well till today

another cuci tangan township is bandar kinrara by inp... such a tragic, such a good location but it looks run down...
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post Oct 8 2014, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 8 2014, 11:06 PM)
Ya bandar kinrara is a mess, look at bk1-5, so messy and dirty narrow access roads...only some new phases look good, but kinrara is a mixture of DSL, apartmenet and some factories...and the commercial at kinrara is really dead....inp just dun care...
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my love for Kinrara just died after revisit the place again few months ago..
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post Oct 8 2014, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 8 2014, 11:26 PM)
Tot the entry level is 740k before package for the busy front rows.
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LCL01 adi mentioned "with family area"
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post Oct 8 2014, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 8 2014, 11:45 PM)
What is that means??? What is the diff if "without".
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with -> 780k
without -> 740k
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post Oct 9 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 9 2014, 10:32 AM)
Correct, net price probably less than 800k only as the loan agreement is absorbed. However, pls go have a look at the site plan 1st. It may not be a nice catch as near to HTC. Also this launch could be only less than 200 units, so where is the remaining ??? Many smart alexs in the developer to plan the pricing strategy as too many competitors in the market. Nowadays no more easy money!!!!! ( for flippers )..
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only 2 rows
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post Oct 13 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 13 2014, 02:51 PM)
are u sure it has been increased to 1.6 mln,  Are these for the odd sized Corner.

Thought it was only closer to RM1.3 to RM1.4  mln for the so-called std cos that's what mu coliq paid
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IMHO, i think its ok for dev to throw more freebies for "harder to sell" units, its a normal practice for them to "clear stocks" because odd sized/big corner is not everyone's cup of tea..
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post Oct 16 2014, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Screwu829 @ Oct 16 2014, 07:01 PM)
TH oredi close their sales office is it? The one near econsave? Coz didn't see their signage when I passed by recently
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Already moved to SITE since beginning of this year..
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post Oct 26 2014, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(WayneLee828 @ Oct 24 2014, 10:03 PM)
Those are the houses near the entrance, these are the one nearest to the HTC. Parkfield distance from the HTC is much nearer, as a Fairfield buyer, I guess I feel better icon_rolleyes.gif .
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dont scared Parkfield buyers la... Parkfield is not near also..
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post Oct 26 2014, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Col @ Oct 26 2014, 04:17 PM)
This is more on the perception and psychological barrier, I am not sure if HTC will bring health hazard but is really a eyesore. Who bot the east south should feel better and good luck who bot west north
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hav u been to sight as in walk into the construction area?
i hav been there.. north west, south east sama saja bcos htc is built on high ground.. equally visible..

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