Double storey link 22 * 75
Three storey cluster house 33 * 70 (if I am not mistaken)

Will be landed strata. Prices not confirmed yer

I think for landed strata, they will allow dogs subject to certain rules that the dog must be leashes, etc. But best u ask before paying any booking fee or signing SPA.

ask for copy of the House Rules first.

Yes, not good news but for the record, Phase 1 was launched from RM720,800 onwards.

Anyway we can forward our views too, 7-inch seems to have gone quiet recently.

before or after rebate?

Access from K2 roundabout is open, last time I used about 4-weeks ago.

TH has changed all its sign board along Grand Saga Highway and Kajang Town

Says Parkfield, 2-storey Link House and 3-storey Cluster House

Freehold and Gated and Guarded

7inch, is the showroom open during the long weekend

What I mean is showroom for Phase 2 can be views over long weekend

If its only RM850K was 22 * 75 and truly G&G Project via Strata, it means that TH is saying SCREW YOU to
buyers of Phase 1

If u browse the OSK Cyberjaya Project, Pangeea or something like that, you can see that OSK also mislead their early buyers, promising only Phase 1 is Condos, Phase 2 etc is "Hotel and Office Suites" and with Shopping Mall, etc but Hotel and Office Suites was cancelled and replaced with more condo units

They Organised a FB Campaign and the Developer arranged a meeting to explain to angry buyers last week and another meeting is expected.

I think we should also do something cos average price unit was RM820K before rebates (save for early birds at RM720K) . Even after rebate at RM780K, with the new property only at RM850K say after rebate, the price increase is not BIG ENOUGH and we will lose out a lot in the long run

If the RM850K is after rebate, our A55 will even be be opened more.

Anything less than RM900K after rebate will mean that TH does not appreciate the support of the Phase 1 buyers.


Phase 1 buyers was told that Phase 1 was the ONLY LINK HOUSE PROJECT and all subsequent Phase will be Detached Houses (Semi-D), Bungalows and Highrise.

To add- Nadayu 92 is current pricing, Developers always launch Future Pricing

This post has been edited by cfa28: Oct 7 2014, 09:52 AM

Dear All Buyers of Tropicana Heights.

I have drafted a Letter of Demand to Tropicana Corporation airing our views on Parkfield

It cannot be denied that many (if not all of us) were told that Phase 1 was the only Link-house development and subsequent launches will be Semi-D, Cluster Houses, Bungalows, etc

Launching Parkfield an an market price not much higher that Fairfield will hurt us in the mid to long run

Parkfield is also a true G&G Project and this could mean eventually, Fairfield will not have security anymore, thus even hurting our market value more

What Tropicana is doing is not illegal but certainly immoral, to screw the early supporters.

I wish to post the Letter, for all of you to edit / add but can I request for someone to take the next step, to either send to Tropicana or set up some FB campaign to get their attention




Most of us cannot afford another unit so soon.

Letter of Demand to Tropicana for your further actions. I do hope that someone can take the lead and compile name of Purchasers to be send to Tropicana.

I just don't have the time but at least I help to draft a simple letter. So am hoping for someone to take the next step to protect our mutual interest.

“To the Management of Tropicana Corporation Berhad (“Tropicana”)

We as named below are the Purchasers of Phase 1 of Tropicana Heights also known as Fairfield.

To recapitulate, Fairfield comprises of Link-houses measuring an average of 22’ * 70’ in a Landed Individual Title development.

Through our various visits to your Sales Gallery such as during your Official Sales Launch and thereafter and through our various interactions with your various Sales Staff, we were informed as follows:

(a) Phase 1 of Tropicana Heights, also known as Fairfield will be the ONLY LINK-HOUSE development in Tropicana Heights
(b) Subsequent Phases will comprise only of Detached Houses such as Semi-Detached Houses, Cluster Houses, Bungalows and Highrise Condominiums
© Fairfield represents a “ONCE IN A LIFETIME” opportunity to own a link house in the Tropicana Heights development

Hence, when it came as a big shock and disappointment when we saw the banners of Phase 2 of Tropicana Heights also known as Parkfield which comprises of:

(a) Link-Houses measuring 22 * 75; and
(b) 3-Storey Cluster Houses;

in a Gated and Guarded Development. Some of the Purchasers below have made enquires to your Sales Office and was informed that Parkfield will be a “Landed Strata Title development” and will be a truly “Gated and Guarded Development”

We feel shortchanged and cheated as:

(a) Tropicana has deviated from its earlier promise that Fairfield would be the only link-houses in Tropicana Heights development

(b) Phase 2 as a truly “Gated and Guarded” development under “Landed Strata Title” development is superior to Fairfield which is only “Fence and Guarded” as it is not a Strata Development..

© The Size of Parlkfield of 22’ * 75’ is much superior to Fairfield of 22’ * 70’ and will once again cause the Market Value of Fairfield to suffer

(d) From our understanding, the indicative launch price of Parkfield is only at a 5% premium to the average prices paid by us. This will even depress the future market price of Fairfield.

(e) If the Purchasers were told that Parkfield will be launched in less than 12-months and with superior features, many of us would held back our purchase of Fairfield and would have opted to purchase Parkfield instead. However, most of us cannot afford to purchase an additional property so soon.

(f) Tropicana had a good track record of enhancing the market value of the property its previous purchasers / launches. Hence, what Tropicana is currently doing for Fairfield and Parkfield is deeply shocking and disappointing.


We demand the following:

(a) that Tropicana scrap the future launches of any link-houses in Tropicana Heights so that Fairfield will be the only link-house development in Tropicana Heights. This was what was promised your various Sales Staff


(b) If Tropicana is unwilling to scrap the launches of future link-houses, we propose that Tropicana compensate the buyers of Fairfield for loss of the future market value of our properties by giving an additional rebate of ten percent (10%) from the Sales and Purchase Agreement price for our various units.

We look forward to a favourable response from you soonest possible



Name of Purchaser(s) / Unit No.”

Yes, pre-launch closer to main road was closer to RM700K only but was sold out very quickly

I would say Average price for the 2-storey is closer to RM820K before rebates - net is about RM780K

Now Phase 2 is saying before rebate of RM850K only. So after rebates is ???

Bro, if we had in B&W that future development was Semi-D, Bungalows, we would have taken this to Court already.

The fact is I and my Wife was told on 3 different occasions by 3- different sales staff that Future sales was only Semi-D, Bungalows, etc and their so-called Plans on the Tables also shows that.

Are u saying that Phase 2 comes with better or worse features compared to Phase 1? I don't think it will be worse, after all, its G&G, suppose to be Landed Strata with better management of Security, Landscapes, etc. Of course, monthly maintenande will be higher but the question, is what is the launch price ?? Just RM30K more means GARPU YOU to previous buyers.

This post has been edited by cfa28: Oct 7 2014, 01:50 PM

You guys can refer here for what happened to OSK Buyers. Similar to our case

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1940261/+1720

Refer post 1730 for quick understanding.

We should do something similar

so what is the average price for Phase 2? Unless its closer to RM1 mln many of us in Phase 1 won't be happy...

despite being gate less, etc and with higher restrictions, if we were properly informed that Phase 2 will have DSL and at 22 * 75, some of us could have opted to wait for Phase 2.

Instead we (or at least I ) were told that

"Only Phase 1 will have link house. After this All is Cluster, Semi-D & Bungalow"

Even their so-called scale unit shows the rest are not Link-Houses.

This is our (or my and my wifey) biggest grouse.

But lets see what the rest think and decide what to do next.

I still say we should proceed to compile a list of buyers and send the Demand Letter to Tropicana

Ask yourself this question. If you were told that had Phase 2 will be a true G&G Project, under Strata and 22 * 75 and assuming same build-up but selling at just RM50K more, would u have waited or proceeded with Phase 1.

I would have waited for sure and perhaps I would have even agreed to pre-book by giving RM10K on the spot.

But I was told it was only Cluster Homes, Semi-D which I am not keen on.

Now, we talk about Capital Value.

Everyone hopes that the Capital Value of their Homes will increase and How developers do is by pricing every subsequent launch at a reasonable premium to the previous launch.

So, what is reasonable and expected?

< 5% is a total waste of time and is as good as negative return since real inflation is about say 5% to 6% and Interest Rate is also at around 5%

5% to 10% - After less out Inflation / Interest rate, the net returns is only similar to FD. Might as well put in FD which does not have any risk at all

10% to 15% - this is the min expected premium that the market demands

15% to 20% - good news for early birds

Now, its Tropicana Fault for launching Phase 2 so soon to Phase 1. They should have launched in 2016 when VP for Phase 1 is around the corner. Thus a premium of 15% to 20% is deemed reasonable

But since they launch so close, the Phase 1 buyers will still expect a premium of between 10% to 15%

So Phase 2 22 * 75 should cost RM820K * 1.15 = RM943K + additional RM50K for the 5 feet of Land = RM993K before rebates.

Then buyers of Phase 1 can be considere as Tak Rugi but we were still mislead and there should be some form of compensation for that.

Bro strata title is up to 3-years to be developed. It does not mean that the Developer will take 3-years to complete.
Reason is cos Strata has always been associated with highrise units where time is needed for Foundation and structural works compared to 2-storey or 3-storey Landed development.

It is always in the developer best interest to complete the project ASAP and no developer will want to take 3-years to complete a landed strata when it can be completed in 2-yrs

I can easily afford loan of additional RM150K to even RM200K more than my current loan. But I can't afford another RM800K loan.

If u read the feedback, there are also many other buyers in my shoes, all told the same story that Phase 1 is the ONLY link-house development, buy now or miss the Boat and in less than 10-months, they launch another link-house with superior features with only a marginal price increase.

It would be odd if u do not feel the least angry.

As I said, Developers have always been mindful to preserve the Capital Value of their previous launches. If you launch a bigger and better new launch as only a fraction price increase, the capital value of the previous phase will suffer.

Now to me, its not really important cos I plan to give this property to my children but is it what a responsible and reputable developer should be doing?

Say that u buy from me know but u can suffer in the future.

I think we should not argue too much on who is right or wrong but make a consensus on whether we should proceed with sending the Letter of Demand to Tropicana.

I hope someone will agree to take charge to compile the list of buyers and send the LoD to Tropicana via Registered Letter.

This post has been edited by cfa28: Oct 7 2014, 05:29 PM

Lets come to a conclusion and decide now. Just like the Scottish Referendum, there is only a YES / NO Answer - there is nothing in-between

Updated list based on feedback from members below. You guys can just reply to this post and update the list accordingly..


Agree to send Letter of Demand

CFA28
baibear
crystalcheng82
aimandagreat
LCL01


Do not Agree to send Letter of Demand







This post has been edited by cfa28: Oct 8 2014, 09:34 AM

Hi Bro, if you had read my post to you sometime last month in the previous tread, we are not really angry although the wordings may indicate otherwise.

Most of us bought into TH because we know that it is a good investment in the long run and not many people will buy to flip in Kajang area.

We were impressed with the overall Master Plan and quality of the showunits which we hope will be consistent with the finished product.

But just to say it for the last time (hopefully) and second time to you:

Part of the reason why many of us bought the Phase 1 was because it was verbally conveyed by your various sales staff to most of us here was that:

"Phase 1 will be the only LINK-HOUSE development, subsequent phases are all Detached meaning Cluster, Semi-D and Bungalows plus Highrise"

It would have been a different story if your sales staff said

"We are sorry Sir, cos we are not sure what the subsequent Phase will comprise cos the Boss / Management has not decided yet"

Plus the timing of the change leaves much to be desired. If say Phase 2 was launched after GST, after 2-rounds of OPR hikes, after some change in economy. Then perhaps, we can accept that indeed Management wanted to launch only Link-House but economy changed.

But TH is launching Phase 2 with Link-House in less than 10-months after your CNY Carnival seems to suggest that TH had plans to launch additional Link-House all along but told the various sales staff to say that only Phase 1 will be link-house to sell faster.

Ah yes, but will be very difficult to enforce legally and is not binding on future purchaser

This post has been edited by cfa28: Oct 8 2014, 09:54 AM