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Chris Chew
post Sep 4 2014, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 4 2014, 04:25 AM)
Double storey link 22 * 75
Three storey cluster house 33 * 70 (if I am not mistaken)

Will be landed strata. Prices not confirmed yer
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Wahhhh. 3 storey cluster summore ah. Price point could be even higher. Unsure whether it is doable.

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post Sep 6 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Chun36 @ Sep 6 2014, 11:26 AM)
In Oct, first two rows will be launched
first at 800k+ before rebate of 5%, i think.

it will be a busy road of 471 units using
this to reach the guard house.
anyway, the new build up and land will be larger
so 60-70k increase is forcasted.

3storey clusters will be furtest from
g/house. and those facing linear park
will cost more too.

Ready your 20k cheque lah.
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Am eager to see what is the market response for a 3 storey cluster, which is something new to the market.
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post Oct 5 2014, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(7inchlonger @ Oct 4 2014, 05:56 PM)
$8XXK onwards
$1.2M onwards

Package wise are sensitive to post out. I suggest to make haste and visit Tropicana Heights sales office for more info. Can't post much otherwise moderator will force lock this thread. Tips had been given. For more interested purchaser I suggest bring cheque book along.
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Wow.

Sounds a huge rebates will be given compare to Phase 1?
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post Oct 5 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ero-Sennin @ Oct 5 2014, 10:25 AM)
Nah...I don't think they'll upset the phase 1 owners. 7inch had mentioned its Strata title and different game.
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Sometimes hard to say...

A lot taikorsss also predicted The Rainz sure give good discount, approx. 7%, to 8% and not surprise if up to 10%. Mana tau end up 17% discount....

Yes, if strata title, it's 3 years development, hence the progressive interest is slightly 1-2% higher than individual title's 2 years development, so the cost can be higher.

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post Oct 7 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 7 2014, 04:24 PM)
No matter how those who bought at 821k (land 20x70 BU: 2135) with 5% & 8k package still "RUGI" if compared to the new double story link if the price is set au 850K.
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Sorry, actually how u guys compensate the word of rugi in this case if Phase 2 is Strata title landed and only RM 30-50k increased? Its not decreased anyway.

Did u guys check the actual location of Phase 2 vs Phase 1 and price versa built up on both? Though the 22x70 built up is small at 2135 sf, but what is the built up for Phase 2?

If everything is merely a word from SA but not tabled properly on black & white or photo of masterplan whih without future link house, then it would be tough to sought an explanation from Tropicana.
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post Oct 7 2014, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 7 2014, 02:21 PM)
so what is the average price for Phase 2?  Unless its closer to RM1 mln many of us in Phase 1 won't be happy...
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Wahhh, min 1mil means 150k increased?

At the end of the day, u only unhappy with the pricing not merely that upcoming phase is DsTH?

Btw, u must be also aware that Strata title is 3 years project and required higher progressive interest compare to 2 years individual title project.

If they sell at 1mil but no buyers buy, also no point what, bro.

Perhaps check more with Tropicana and lets understand more.
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post Oct 8 2014, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 7 2014, 05:25 PM)
Bro strata title is up to 3-years to be developed. It does not mean that the Developer will take 3-years to complete.
Reason is cos Strata has always been associated with highrise units where time is needed for Foundation and structural works compared to 2-storey or 3-storey Landed development.

It is always in the developer best interest to complete the project ASAP and no developer will want to take 3-years to complete a landed strata when it can be completed in 2-yrs

I can easily afford loan of additional RM150K to even RM200K more than my current loan.  But I can't afford another RM800K loan.

If u read the feedback, there are also many other buyers in my shoes, all told the same story that Phase 1 is the ONLY link-house development, buy now or miss the Boat and in less than 10-months, they launch another link-house with superior features with only a  marginal price increase.

It would be odd if u do not feel the least angry.

As I said, Developers have always been mindful to preserve the Capital Value of their previous launches.  If you launch a bigger and better new launch as only a fraction price increase, the capital value of the previous phase will suffer.

Now to me, its not really important cos I plan to give this property to my children but is it what a responsible and reputable developer should be doing?

Say that u buy from me know but u can suffer in the future.

I think we should not argue too much on who is right or wrong but make a consensus on whether we should proceed with sending the Letter of Demand to Tropicana.

I hope someone will agree to take charge to compile the list of buyers and send the LoD to Tropicana via Registered Letter.
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Alright bro.

I understand your frustration but sorry to hear all that. Chill down bro and lets see how u guys can get more info from the dev.

I couldnt comment much bcz I didnt study much of the TH masterplan and exact land status or details btw Phase 1 and 2. And unknown of what facilities offered for the Phase 2 since purely G&G.

However, If Phase 1 and 2, I assume if really same number of units, same land size, same built up, no contrast of the location of Phase 2 is nearer to HTC, STP or etc. i willing to top up about 10% for Phase 2.

But from the above, Phase 1 is smaller land size at 22x70 vs Phase 2 22x75 ( although 5 ft long is minimal but additional 110 sq ft ), built up also larger a bit. So, if only 5% increased, it would be a dampen if both phases consist of more than 600 units. Moreover, Phase 1 completed in 2015 while Phase 2, schedule in 2017. The Phase 1 price upon subsale will boost Phase 2 by the time of 2017-18.

Anyhow, this is just my small small 2 cent of info.

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post Oct 8 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Oct 8 2014, 10:32 AM)
Strata title schedule H takes 3 years..
Yes, additional 1 year of Interest and 1 year of opportunity cost..
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Yes boss, 1 year additional of interest ( estimated ) but importantly 1 year of opportunity cost, for me it's 2 years because Phase 1 schedule to completed 2 years earlier than Phase 2 based on info above.

Any idea what is the total units of Phase 1 and Phase 2?

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post Oct 8 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 8 2014, 10:38 AM)
Bro, like I said before, strata title can take up to 3-years. It does not mean that the Developer will take 3-yrs to complete the job when they can do so in 2-years and proceed to the next Phase / project.

Even for Phase 1 = 2-years under Schedule G - does not mean that the Developer will not try to copmplete the job in less than 24-months

If there is no need for extensive Groundworks / piling or structural works for highrise, why would the Developer want to take additional 1-year to do the job.  Opportunity cost to Developer is higher than to Buyer.

I went to Diamond City - it is also under Schedule H for Landed Strata but sales staff said job will be completed in about 2-years
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Aiya, bro, of coz la.

If can complete within 2 years, therefore dev can deliver 12 months ahead of the 36 months schdule but it is also same for Schedule G, 2 years but dev also can deliver within 12 or 18 months if possible ...

What is the total units in Phase 2? And what are the facilities offered in the Phase 2?

Since TH township is still new, a lot of infra need to be taken into timing consideration, and if 400-500 units with acres of lakes, gardens or landscape and if with clubhouse plus facilities, I dont think Tropicana will complete it in 2 years time bcz they need more works on the whole township infra and in the time being, the group also had a large chunk of on going projects.
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Oct 8 2014, 01:30 PM)
289 ph1 + 481 ph2 = 770 units
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Ohh, means Phase 2 is 66% more than number of units in Phase 1.

Then Phase 1 is quite exclusive with only 289 units to ensure quality neighbourhood.

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post Oct 8 2014, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 8 2014, 06:54 PM)
Indicative price:-
Price RM835,800
5% +RM8k
22'x75' 2202 sqft
Free SPA and loan agreement.
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Very good price and entry level.

But 2202 sq ft built up is small for a 22x75 footprint.

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post Oct 8 2014, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Oct 8 2014, 11:09 PM)
my love for Kinrara just died after revisit the place again few months ago..
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Kinrara?

Sigh. Such a good location but very bad infra was made here.

If the infra was done properly, I believe BK today would be very much different from today and able to match Bdr Utama.

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post Oct 9 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 9 2014, 12:13 AM)
How about 3 sty? What's the lowest.
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From what I heard,

2s terrace is RM 855k onwards.

3s cluster is RM 1.3m onwards.

I could be wrong though.

If 2s is really RM 855k and really disc 5% + 8k, I believe, quite a good entry and good buy.


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Is TH with any clubhouse plus facilities or any signature park or landscape?


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post Oct 9 2014, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 9 2014, 09:43 AM)
sauppose to have a Club House and 20 acre linear park with a Lake - Central Attraction

Plus Market Square
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Ic. Then I reckon the Phase 2 buyers would have to use the common clubhouse facilities.
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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 9 2014, 10:32 AM)
Correct, net price probably less than 800k only as the loan agreement is absorbed. However, pls go have a look at the site plan 1st. It may not be a nice catch as near to HTC. Also this launch could be only less than 200 units, so where is the remaining ??? Many smart alexs in the developer to plan the pricing strategy as too many competitors in the market. Nowadays no more easy money!!!!! ( for flippers )..
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Definitely ....
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post Oct 10 2014, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(crystalcheng82 @ Oct 9 2014, 11:00 PM)
Tropicana Corporation Berhad will be launching

Tropicana Heights Kajang @ Phase 2

Started to Accept Booking.

2 Storey Link House 22x75 From
Price Range 835,800
Build Up 2200sf

3 Storey Cluster 33x75
Price Range 1.230,800
Built Up 3075sf

*Freehold.
*Guarded & Gated.
*Clubhouse Facilities

From Tropicana Sales person
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Hmm, cheaper than I thought.

G&G is definitely good but this Phase 2 got own clubhouse facilities within own perimeter gated?

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post Oct 10 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Chrysty82 @ Oct 9 2014, 11:46 PM)
Never seen a project that phase 2 is cheaper than phase 1! OMG
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Hmm, I guess maybe there are reasons behind it. Tropicana wont simply lower price their products accordingly. Its not their trend but it can be good for those who missed Phase 1.

There are times that if Phase 2 is RM 150k more exp than Phase 1, those missed Phase 1 would condemn the developer is greedy for such price and those secured Phase 1 is celebrating bfore Phase 2 is on sale.

Any owner able to clarify the exact location of Phase 2 and did the site visit?

I was told Phase 2 is lower elevated land than Phase 1, curving down. About HTC, my friend not sure about it.

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post Oct 10 2014, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(Brainy_Panda @ Oct 10 2014, 12:17 AM)
The BU for 3 sty cluster seems to be small?? Just wonder how it works. How big is the 3 sty for P1 and what was the price tag.
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Its very interesting to see the layout for a 3 storey cluster.

Btw, for cluster, the layout is very crucial.

33x75, reckon it could be 22/23x 75 with 10 ft extra land. Thus with 3075 sf, it is decent size to reduce monthly maintenance fee ( unless based on land size like EM ) and to ensure min 24-25 ft car porch.

The land is fixed at there, sometimes if too huge built up might be not a good idea, if you not sure I mean, I am actually referring to total built up ( internal ) in Ground Floor, vs yard ( behind wall connecting or rear ) and car porch.

I awaiting the brochure. My fren went to sales gallery last few days but not available.
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(fresh&new @ Oct 10 2014, 08:29 AM)
P2 location is in the north & adjacent to p1. U can check in v1 of this thread for the htc running map to see the distance of p2 to the htc. In short, p2 is closer to htc compared to p1. Check for yourself.
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Thanks.

U already provided a good answer to some of the owners of Phase 1 here.



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