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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V64, Buy Hiriz better.

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IvanWong1989
post Sep 13 2014, 06:20 PM

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Hei guys.

Considering to buy car.. *fed up of diagnosing and find mechanic very single few weeks for my 13 year old wira. Become car expert liau sooner or later.

Considering Maibee and GaGa and others

Read a lot. Now I ask you owners.


Honest comment. Ada regret buy cheap saga? Like regret all problems come out and sc service shit and etc?

Fresh grad here...
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post Sep 15 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 13 2014, 06:28 PM)
Your wira apa problem?

You want sedan (space) or you just want a point A to point B car?

my regret buying Saga is people look me no up only. cry.gif
and lastly;

Just as a customary question for newbies;

Y U NO BAI VIOS!  vmad.gif
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Haha. Vios the God car haha.

QUOTE(n3w @ Sep 13 2014, 08:52 PM)
Maintain je la wira tu.

At least don't need tie up with monthly installments.  yawn.gif

What are the problems for your wira?
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Hmm.. as normal getting old. Soon Need change clutch plate. Mountings. Now aircond got strange problem. Compressor only kicks on 10 % of them time no matter the position of the knob. Hot like hell. Cleaned TB but still have vibration n low rpm problem. Like want engine stall soon. Then got rusty body. Leaky boot.

Just thought avoid all the wear tear parts changing process. While still drivable.

Scared after fix. Dump few k in. Still will need worry break down .

Advice ?

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 13 2014, 11:26 PM)
Ur plobrematic wigra mau juai berapa brows.gif
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Wa dun know lOl. I am noob.
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post Sep 16 2014, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Sep 16 2014, 12:35 AM)
Gears still can change smoothly tak? Clutch slipping?

Air cond how often service? Gas top up? Compressor got service? Rusty body still ok la, slowly repair. Leaky boot ask foremen seal lo. Ask foreman set lo. Vibration - mounting? Get a trusted mechanic.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 16 2014, 12:41 AM)
what year is your Wira? Carb or fuel injection?
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QUOTE(NOX @ Sep 16 2014, 09:04 AM)
wah. many interested in the wira. apakah?
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 16 2014, 09:38 AM)
Wira is old god car
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QUOTE(n3w @ Sep 16 2014, 09:49 AM)
And reliable. Old 4g series engine like batu. Last loooooong.7
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Erm...gears... reverse need some man power lol.

Done top overhaul n rebore last year. Cause overheated pm highway. Changed a number of stuff. Water pump. Timing belt. This that. Kena potong died at highway...

Problem is I'm at penang..not familiar.. don't know any mechanic here haha.
Aircond haven't . Actually I'm thinking .. worth to fix . ? If so then I fix.hope it wouldn't let me stranded on highway. Then I abandon saga liau.

It's 2001. Fuel injection. Vdo TB.
Hmmm.. 14 years already.. next year 15... hmm
Give me some advice....

This post has been edited by IvanWong1989: Sep 16 2014, 10:51 AM
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post Sep 16 2014, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Sep 16 2014, 02:44 PM)
my fren wira 4g15 still in god condition, changed from auto 3speedo to 5 manual, just cameback from ipoh thru grik no problem, can keep up with my flx 1.3 manual..not bad..imo u shud fix the wira, but if u lazy go buy axia, 24k for 1.0l manual..can tapau godcar liao
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Haha. God car saga ??
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post Sep 17 2014, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Sep 17 2014, 09:13 PM)
my saga blm auto was 2010, going to 5 years, currently having engine oil leaking problems and steering oil leaking.
In fact, when i take my new car that time, engine oil already leaking, then claim for warranty, they changed Oil Seal & Rocker Gasket, after 3 years, engine oil leaking came again...aiya...

for steering oil leaking, is due to steering rack, need change whole unit, RM1800....

except these, basically, no have major issue with this car.
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hmm..... lemon unit? or is generally saga have this problem>? Scared to get saga now

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post Sep 17 2014, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 17 2014, 10:35 PM)
It's common to have oil leak on the rocker cover gasket. Replacement only cost RM48.50, it's advisable to clean up properly before installation, add 2 ton glue to the rocker before installation, that will assure better seal off and last longer for until the next seal change.

As for steering rack, it is also common problem for all GaGa. The only thing that trigger this problem is, the driver him/herself. Avoid lock to lock turn(*turn until steering hit the stopper - KRAK!), many still surviving with their stock steering rack until today.

As usual, as long it's a Plotong, it's already a lemon unit. When 1 car rosak, the entire range of Plotong is bad. Those who survived, was not been seen. Wanto get a GaGa anot, it's a perception. If you already have such bad imaginary enemy planting a bad name of Plotong in your mind, please don't bother to get a Plotong or eventually regardless how good the QC did, the car will be leman to you trust me whistling.gif
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Haha. Not to say i am that type. Specs and worthiness wise
Saga wins.

I am surveying around for comments
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post Sep 21 2014, 11:04 AM

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Hi Guys,

Any penangite here? Any Proton recommended SC in Penang Island? Considering between Myvia and Saga, now am weighing both SC. Perodua SC i went before it is nice. How bout Proton SC in Penang?

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post Sep 21 2014, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 21 2014, 12:52 PM)
considering buy car because of SC factor? You got to be kidding right?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 21 2014, 01:03 PM)
Funker, be helpful or stop the sarcasm lor. He ady mentioned previously he's considering. Let's not forget pipu bai VIOS also bcoz of its resell value! ROTFFLMFAO. Let him face the truth lor. If pipu wan bai Mybi, we shall support that. We're helpful GaGarians :)

After sales service
P2 > Toyol > P1

Resell value
Toyol > P2 > P1

Fanny magnet
Toyol > P2 > P1

Value for marneh + tech savvy
P1 > P2 > Toyol

So in the end, its whether can afford anot jek. I eben got experience a boss's Bimmer kena stuck in Bavaria SC for a year
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 21 2014, 01:33 PM)
Ayam not being sarcastic because ayam just jibai noob curious. Just i understand that pepel buy car mainly of his/her needs as priority. To consider buy car between saga and myvi is easy one btw. Size, price, sc etc.
Maybe ayam just seems sarcastic because ayam reply use jibai small semarkphone type with fat finger. Lol.
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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 21 2014, 02:25 PM)
One got free karipap and Neskafe, one don't have, which one you choose?  :w
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Hmm. Thanks guys first for replying.

I'm considering both because both at my budget level.

Either will go for 38k/45k saga or 45k myvi.

Hopefully can be a problem free car. But I understand manufacturing sure got chance to lemon. So at least preparing myself to know which SC in penang is good.

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post Sep 22 2014, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Sep 22 2014, 10:29 AM)
Frankly speaking, there's no 100% problem free car Ivan so do expect some level of problems.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yeap. That is why I am asking which SC recommended in the first place hahaha....


Btw, you guys experience the loose side door floor panel thing? the plastic panel at the floor that just clip on. I sat my friend's saga and when I go out, the panel came loose... >.<... JUST LIKE MY WIRA> !!! hahaaahahahh






Btw. Guys. You're so lively. haha. I have just nego with two SAs. One from Proton one from Perodua. On Saga and Myvi. Here are their *terms.


Saga 1.3 CVT Exe
OTR Price 45036.00
Quoted Price for my Wira Trade in 4536.00 (THIS I FEEL BO SONG!, Give me this number so nice then at the end he say subject to checks and puspakom passing. Plus will minus if anything like aircond not good and etc. zzzzz)
3.0x% at 7 Years

Free Full Tank, Steering Lock only.




Myvi 1.3 Auto Se
OTR Price 48436.45
Quoted Discounted Price 48000.00
Quoted Price for Wira 3k-4k unknown yet. No final number zzzzzz
2.96% at 9 years. Didn't count for 7 years, forgot. tongue.gif

Free steering lock, umbrella, buzzer sound for door lock/unlock

Tint I ask for it, she say tak boleh zzz.... but she offer compromise. +Rm100 and she use her "voucher 150" to make my tint. >.<






Any comments???
I'm at penang and the SAs are at Ipoh.


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post Sep 23 2014, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Sep 21 2014, 03:58 PM)
Actually, if you're willing to wait a bit more, wait for the proton Iriz to release.
Then u have Saga, Myvi, Axia(but i think that's not what ur looking for) and Iriz.
More types to compare and see, and go test drive and get the feel of the car also.
all states got good and bad SC, just see ur luck sometimes too bro.
Like my hometown Melaka, got 1 SC in mm opinion very good. Let me be with my car when service, although tukar alot things that's suppose to be considered void warranty also still okay, everything can claim. allow me bring my own oil also.
Memang is see luck 1 bro.
Just my honest 2 cents rant :blush:
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QUOTE(n3w @ Sep 21 2014, 08:59 PM)
You move a lot in town kan, get myvi auto je. Easy to drive and park. Not much hassle. Don't think too much di.

Recommend a myvi in a proton thread ish.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 22 2014, 09:50 PM)
GaGa exec came with stock tint ady. Buzzer is a stock equipment, so no need to "free" to make it sound worthwhile. As for the steering lock, ask the SA how much izit gonna cost if buy 1 unit? When he say RM60, then you ask him pay you cash instead. U can buy a damn Kiki steering lock for RM15 :o As for the full tank petrol, GaGa tank is 40litre. 40x2.10= RM84. Tell him jiu gib him diskaun RM4, ask him pay cash RM80. So your total rebate should be RM60(steering lock) + RM80(full tank petrol-RM4diskaun) = RM140. Trust me, full tank petrol not as it seems worthy. Factory delivered the car with some 6 litres balance in the tank ady. So, if the SA fill up 33lit++ you wouldn't get the max out of it anyways. Might as well take the cash go outside fill in sendiri :lol: If this can be done lar I mean. Try your luck lor if you make up your mind for GaGa :nod: For the 3k difference compare to a MyBi, you can fill in many-many tank of petrol + top of the world range of tinting film jor :lol: I still don't know how you can compare the 2 of them. Price of getting a GaGa, not to mentioned the RM12k worth CVT gebox compare to a RM3k worth of dinosaur 4AT, the massive GaGa even if kepik it sell besi burok also much more worthy than a blardy MyBi :cool2:

Wira, anything before 2004 is about that price 3~4k. And, the loan interest, shorter you go, higher the rate. So, it's very possible the MyBi will give you 3.0x% for 7 years as well :o

You've been worried too much. Why dont bring questions back to MyBi tered and see what they say? It's not fair for us to comment on MyBi(despite ayam qualified coz I own both).
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Haha.. This saga tered is a lovely and helpful bunch. I'm was active once in computing section lol. But I still stalk whenever I'm free haha. That's why I asking here lo. Lol.

Agree with all your points. Lol. Hmmm

QUOTE(Cosef @ Sep 22 2014, 10:11 PM)
Nope, even my friend's BLM don't have loose panel. It was either the screw thread loose or clip patah or missing screws while going to accessories shop or tint shop.
Now Saga CVT Exe got nice nice bodykit and leatherseat like 1.6 SE wor. :D

Why I prefer Saga is:
- Handling nice
- Easy to park
- Metal cukup solid
- Take care sikit your car body it will look like high end car

The tint voucher mine also got, Agard tint with discount RM150 for below RM1k tint and RM300 for above RM1k tint. But then I ended up go to tint for RM500 whole car solar film only, effect ada song lah really.
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Lol.. I think I've been too critical about getting the absolute best deal. Plus my wira now days aircond seems to wanna kong. I rush myself to decide n buy one. Lol. So that can sell the wira higher abit before other stu ff kong
Hmm. Perhaps just see which car I like most. =)

Choose car not choose SA

I'll cone back later lol. To report either I am new gaga member or not. Lol
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post Sep 24 2014, 12:49 AM

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Guys. Anyone here got the Saga SV Cvt? Aside from the ABS and EBD tarak. Other stuff still have?
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post Sep 27 2014, 11:31 PM

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Hi guys..

Good news. My first car is a Proton. =)

Bad news. T.T . It's not a Saga. Sorry guys. I went for the Iriz.



You guys were very helpful. Thank you so so much. Appreciate it.
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post Sep 28 2014, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 27 2014, 11:44 PM)
Congrats! Enjoy the car that most of us wished to have notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(n3w @ Sep 28 2014, 12:15 AM)
Didn't realise top of the range lagi biggrin.gif
They're quite quiet on dry though those cc5
Kena poison by salesman and us complaining too much here dry.gif
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Lol.. was poisoned =D
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post Oct 1 2014, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Darrenkls @ Oct 1 2014, 04:08 PM)
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