QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 2 2014, 07:35 PM)
Wowz uae buy 6 baynunah class 920 ton corvette with 8 mm40, 36 essm, ram and 76mm gun for total of 820m 1 ship only 100+ m
Fuh so cheap
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SMX-25 Submarine Concept
![]() QUOTE For this concept ship project, DCNS focused on how to get what is essentially a conventional submarine to a theatre of operations as quickly as possible. Powered by three gas turbines driving three water jets, the SMX-25 submersible is designed to achieve a sustained surface speed of 38 knots. Despite the fact that the SMX-25 can deploy very quickly, it is essentially a conventional submarine. On reaching its designated patrol area, the SMX-25 will operate like other submarines using the same types of sensors and resources. In the innovative semi-surfaced configuration, with only the upper portion of the sail above water, the boat will be able to use the same sorts of sensors (including an aircraft surveillance radar) and weapons as a conventional surface combatant (i.e. anti-ship, land-strike and anti-air missiles launched from vertical silos) while maintaining an extremely discrete radar signature. The SMX-25 will be equipped to deploy combat swimmers and their delivery vehicles, commandos, unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs) and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 17 2014, 10:25 PM) The ridiculous irony is that the US have bases all over Asia-Pacific to supposedly control/contain the threat of PRC. Yet at the same time accusing PRC of wanting to control Asia-Pacific. There's nothing wrong with protecting your allies and making sure they toe the line (Japan). After all, in this region the aggressor isn't the US. All those bases have been purely for defense of their allies. Who exactly is threatening who, actually? ![]() QUOTE(Piap @ Sep 17 2014, 10:43 PM) So true..we have been friends with china long beyond the ming dynasty..till now they never reequestd set up a base. But why shud we give a place for the p-8 then? It's been a useless relationship. When Malacca was invaded, where was Ming? Nowhere. Their words and promises were useless. Malacca paid tribute in return for military protection and they didn't do shit. One of their other tributaries invaded Malacca and what did they do? Just send an envoy conveying their anger to that tributary and refused to do anything. When the Portuguese invaded and took Malacca, they didn't do squat to help take it back or give military support. They just took the easy way out and executed the Portuguese that were already in China. Fat lot of good that did for us. All that gold in tribute given in vain. When they were under commie rule or invaded by Japan, we were the ones to send support back to China, not them to us. We were one of the first in the world to recognize their country.China has the potential to be the new "Japan" that everyone in this region hates. It's inconceivable for one superpower (the US) to invade this region let alone our country and yet everyone knows that's a strong possibility that the other rising superpower will start flexing their muscles as they have already done. Once their aircraft carriers are done and they start projecting power across the sea you'll start seeing more of this. What happens when they go too far? Who will stop them? WWIII won't be started by the Middle Eastern countries or by Russia. It'll happen in this region. |
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Sep 18 2014, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 18 2014, 09:56 AM) Ming did vented their anger when Malacca was invaded and conquered by Portuguese. They jailed and executed all the Portuguese in China and wipe out a portuguese fleet sent to China. But Ming have grown decadent at that time. Plus the growing local rebellion and the threat of Manchu from the north. China was unable to send any help to Malacca. At the end of the day, they did nothing for us. They only wiped out the Portuguese because they were bothering them at home. If anything that gold did more for them than us. I mean, who doesn't like free gold for services not rendered? |
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Sep 18 2014, 01:21 PM) lol... msia stand to benefit more than US to have the planes here... they can easily put them in pinoyland or sg or th... Right, and those Koreans and Vietnamese will say that China is the savior of the region. regional aggressor isnt the US? vietiong, kor and pinoy will dispute u.. lol, malacca paid to establish trade links and to prevent from being wipe out... military protection? u read that from ur sejarah text books? we? lol, not just msians, the whole chinese diaspora sent help back... first to recognize? lol, what if msia dont... what would happen? well, hate due to brainwash from americans... look at reality, who murdered more ppl in the past decade than the americans? not even the evil ISIS/IS/ISIL can beat them in body count... |
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QUOTE savior or not, they are not the initiators.. well, pinoys dont have a choice, they cant even deal with their own rebels.. necessary evil? or devil in disguise? or hidden cancer? No, but they're been supporting the aggressors in every one of those conflicts along with the Soviets. The US is the only reliable counterweight to China because India is f***ed up and won't reach superpower status anytime soon. Malaysia's politicians have been playing both sides so far and staying "neutral". It's a smart move for a relatively powerless country. Committing to any one side at this point in the game isn't the best move. QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Sep 18 2014, 04:46 PM) russia cant keep their army up to date? you must be high on weed... how many countries in the world can take russia on a full blown war? if eu is not united, russia can easily take half of eu easily if there's no intervention... That's what NATO is for. The EU is outsourcing its defense to the US which is why the defense budgets and militaries of the European nations have been decreasing in size over the years since WWII and the Cold War. Why would you need to spend money on military when your biggest ally is more than ready to back you anytime and has the largest and most advanced military by far? It just doesn't make sense economically. Russia wouldn't be able to make a move on Europe without the US shoving its carrier battle groups down its arse. Putin isn't stupid. Russia's economy can't support a large military conflict. Russia has an economy the size of fricking Italy. It'd collapse from within just like the Soviet Union eventually collapsed if it tried anything. Heck, the minor sanctions that the EU and US have imposed on it have caused major damage to its economy already and it's nowhere near what could happen during a full blown war or escalation of hostilities. QUOTE dont have any clout on the international stage? you must be a bat in some cave... probably been stuck there for the last 30 years Prove me wrong then. Who are their allies and supporters outside of Best Korea? |
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Sep 18 2014, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Sep 18 2014, 05:31 PM) supporting aggressors? there's always 2 sides to a conflict, both are equally guilty.. and china's involvement is limited to nearing its borders or places where they have stake, US on the other hand... yes, staying neutral and avoiding conflict if can if not negotiate.. not go jilat d other side So basically an organization where the intentions of the members are dubious at best (SCO) and with no formal military or defense treaties, a bunch of the traditionally anti-USA countries and the AU that's only interested in China from an economic perspective (they want chinese money to flow into their 3rd world nations so they can well, if you put it that way, everyone can claim they are with US and they dont need any military.. it is always easy to hope for the best, but in the end of the day... you can only depend on yourself when desperate situation comes all SCO countries, majority of african countries... countries in latin america, now even eu countries are friends with china.. massive markdown? cause china is paying for the pipeline and it is a long term contract.. if china dont buy it, it would be left in the ground with no demand.. |
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Sep 23 2014, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 23 2014, 12:29 PM) Saudi Nuclear weapons already 'on order' from Pakistan Now their purchase of the chinese missiles makes sense. GG Iran.In light of its disapproval regarding recent US rapprochement to Iran, Saudi Arabia is seriously considering purchasing nuclear weapons for itself. The Saudi leadership is concerned that gradual lifting of Iranian sanctions by the US may encourage an accelerated Iranian nuclear weapons program. According to the BBC, Saudi Arabia has covertly made a deal with Pakistan, itself an Iran rival, for nuclear weapons development to use against Iran. Reports say according to a senior NATO official, reports exists of "Pakistani-made nuclear weapons sitting in depots awaiting immediate delivery to Saudi Arabia" under the threat of an Iranian nuclear weapon. The Saudi leadership has indicated on numerous occasions to US envoys stating that if 'Iran crosses the threshold, we will get nuclear weapons'. The report is further corroborated by the former head of Israeli Intelligence, General Amos Yadlin, who stated that if Iran obtains a nuclear weapon "Saudi Arabia will not wait for a month. They have paid for the bomb. They will go to Pakistan and bring back what they need". It is known that the Saudi leadership has covertly financed and co-developed Pakistani nuclear weapons research, including the visit of Defense minister Prince Abdul Aziz al-Saud to the Pakistani Nuclear research facility in 1999 and 2002 and met with renowned nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan. Although Saudi Arabia itself is a signatory of the non-proliferation NFA treaty, it has argued efforts to ensure the middle east is a Nuclear weapons-free zone has been severely undermined by the alleged existence of Israeli nuclear weapons. ![]() Satellite photos taken in 2013 showing an undisclosed Saudi Ballistic missile base at Al-Watah, 200 miles south-west of Riyadh News Link: BBC: Saudi Nuclear weapons already 'on order' from Pakistan |
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Fuuuh seeing the Indo assets makes me so jelly. Too bad Malaysia kenot afford to keep up
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 8 2014, 02:32 PM) PLA Navy takes delivery of Zubr Heavy LCAC Hovercraft from Ukraine Lol GG. It won't be long before China copies that too.![]() The PLA Navy's Zubr Hovercraft being transported to China on the transport HHL New York The PLA has received the delivery of its second Ukraine-built Zubr heavy hovercraft from Ukraine in April 2014. The massive hovercraft, which is the world's largest, has a displacement of 500 tons with a crew of 30 sailors and can carry cargo such as Armored vehicles and supplies up to 150 tons. If no vehicles are carried the Zubr can carry up to 350 infantry soldiers or Marines. It can cruise at 55 knots for a maximum range of 480 kilometers. The purchase of this Zubr is part of a $315 Million USD deal for 4 Zubr hovercrafts, in which the PLA received its first Zubr in 2013. More importantly, the deal also gives China permission to locally build up to 2 more Zubr hovercrafts under Ukrainian technical supervision. The Zubr is armed with four short-range SAM launchers and two 6-barrel 30mm gatling-type guns for self defense. It also can carry bombardment rocket to 'soften up' its landing area. News Links: First Zubr delivery: Zubr Heavy hovercraft for PLA navy handover ceremony Second Zubr delivery: China's 2nd Zubr LCAC delivered from Ukraine |
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Oct 9 2014, 01:00 AM) erm..ok. Then do you think it is viable for Malaysia to build own military things like Indonesia? Well, hopefully in future, China will sell their weapons and so on cheap cheap to us. QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Oct 9 2014, 01:25 AM) I see. Yeah I realizes we lack quite behind from the Indonesia. So in the meantime, there are no plan to Improve our military industry? What makes you think we can afford it? |
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Sweden Is Hunting For A Russian Submarine Less Than 31 Miles From Stockholm
QUOTE STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Sweden boosted its military presence in Stockholm's archipelago on Saturday to scour its waters for "foreign underwater activity" in a mobilization of ships, troops and helicopters unseen since the Cold War. Swedish sos: http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/english-...ine_4023511.svdThe search in the Baltic Sea less than 31 miles (50 km) from Stockholm began on Friday and brought back vivid memories of the final years of the Cold War when Sweden repeatedly hunted suspected Soviet submarines along its coast with depth charges. The operation comes amid increasing tension with Russia among the Nordic and Baltic statesover the Ukraine crisis. Finland last week accused the Russian navy of interfering with a Finnish environmental research vessel in international waters. The Swedish military has said information about suspicious activity came from a trustworthy source, without providing details, and that more than 200 military personnel were involved in the search. Swedish daily Svenska Dagbladet, citing unidentified sources with knowledge of the search, said the military operation came after a radio transmission in Russian on an emergency frequency. Further encrypted radio traffic from a point in the archipelago and the enclave of Kaliningrad, home to the Russian Baltic fleet's headquarters, was intercepted on Friday evening after the Swedish search started, the newspaper said. Ships, helicopters and troops from an amphibious unit as well as the home guard combed the search area. The forces include HMS Visby, a corvette that has stealth technology and equipment for anti-submarine warfare. "We still consider the information we received as very trustworthy," Captain Jonas Wikstrom, head of operations for the search, told reporters. "I, as head of operations, have therefore decided to increased the number of units in the area." In 1981, the Soviet submarine known under its Swedish designation U137 was stranded deep inside Swedish waters not far from a major naval base in the neutral country, sparking intense suspicion about the scale and motives of such incursions. The military said on Friday there had been no armed intervention and declined to comment on who might be responsible for the suspicious activity, or whether the report had been about a submarine. Should the search find proof of foreign military activity in Swedish coastal waters it will represent the first real test of Prime Minister Stefan Lofven's center-left minority government only weeks after coming to office. Last month, Sweden said two Russian warplanes entered its airspace, calling the intrusion a "serious violation" and sending a protest to Moscow's ambassador in the Nordic country. Countries in the Baltic Sea region have become increasingly wary of Russia's military ambitions since Moscow annexed Ukraine's Crimea region in March. Sos: http://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-hunt...e-2014-10?IR=T& This post has been edited by red streak: Oct 19 2014, 08:19 AM |
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