tq sir

buy from other country or own production each counry has their own reason..

we dont know the future, we dont know the relationship between country, we never know what happen to our country in the future, maybe we now have a good relationship with US or russia or other sophisticated arms dealer country, military parts and maintenance more easy to get as long we have the money.. msia never being banned for purchasing military hardware from other country, but indo got it few years ago, it make us think, we need to start and learn the tech, try and begin to reduce the demand for weapons from other countries, of course for weapon we couldnt make and got good tech we must buy. u know what indo pipul when anoa has been made? did that vehicle can run? did the gun can shoot? almost all pipul doubt it, but now, its one of our pride

i believe.. no country that have a good tech want to share it with other country (especially third world country and not close ally).. if any, a really big cost is needed.

for example, in peace time maybe msia just built 100 AV8 a year for ATM, and try sell to other country, tu pun msia gomen lebih senang guna stryker (or other 8X8 vehicle) daripada AV8, so if not laku then stop production lar, cause no money to the next development, can ATM buy 100 AV8 per year so the company boleh terus buat AV8 and make it more sopisticated ? its OK if the production stop , but msia already have the capability and knowledge how to make 8X8 vehicle

but in war time.. im really sure all gomen money and resources will be throw into military, when stryker (or other 8X8 vehicle) being banned for msia, tak perlu pening kepala.. u can make ur own 8X8, maybe not canggih enough, but in huge number, boleh buat lawan pening juga..

can make it does not mean can sell, if only buy, never expected to get the most advanced tech cause seller (other hi tech country is not stupid), russia wont sell their S500, like US wont sell their raptor or warthog, but if make it by own we have chance the make advanced tech for our army, buy what we need but we must start to learn and make something, syukur if in future we got that chance, but how we ever get the chance if we never start it?

just my opinion and mohon maaf kalau ade salah

waiting for mobile suit

ACV Adnan , AV8, KIFV, and Sibmas faster and greater mobility than MBT.

Ingat ride sub pergi peru... haha cross international water and kacau here and thre. Like china and russia

How do u define light and heavy? That term mainly for ww2 only. Now any tank is called mbt. No more medium, light or heavy tank except one in china. But most also are older version or experimental unit. Western block tanks are heavy and concentrate on crew protection, eastern block are light and concentrate on mobility. Crew protection is often secondary hahaha


Indon leopard unit are surplus dutch old stock. They get it cheaply. Why malaysia didn't it? Well, apparently even it surplus it still expensive for our overall budget but the weight is also nother limiting factor. Not to mention our love for add-on improvement will drive up even the cost

T84 is almost same weight with ours pt91m. It still based on the soviet design t72 with improvement iinm. But we have been offered the mordern T90 but i not sure why the army didn't take it instead of this pt91m.

Singapore? Only a few units are based on island. The rest i was told is at new zealand, canada, Germany. That whre they carry out intensive training while basic training is at sg

Now thre hardly tank to tank battle. The last maybe was at iraq between us abram and iraq old soviet tanks. Now it mainly as troop support. I could see why the army would not want to spend so much on a tank that are our pioneering armoured division. I was aslo told, this few batch will be our training platform for future more advance tank. No point getting the most advance tank but do not know to use its full potential, right?

Light with mobility or heavy with protection, warfare doctrine determines how one will fight

Nowadays tanks is molded into cavalry styled strategy where it will be accompanied by infantry and ifv when it goes out,
Armored thrust? that's ww2 idiom and no longer applies to modern warfare as its only a suicide run with atgm proliferation

PLA Strategic Artillery corps conduct mass saturation attack drill in Western China


Ballistic missile crews inspect the DF-15 SRBM at base prior to training drill


I Imagined the end of the world would start with something like this,but with nuke warheads

TNI-AD's Leopard is actually Switzerland-made Leopard that were transferred to Rheinmetall and then sold to Indonesia. It's called Pz87



The budget for MBT procurement is around $300 million. K2 and T-90S were first considered...K2 was deemed to expensive aand I don't know why T-90S wasn't chosen.

Then it was decided to purchase 50 Dutch's surplus Leopard 2A6 and Dutch's parliament made the procurement hard to achieve, although TNI-AD has minimal armored presence in Papua.
Then Rheinmetall offered 103 Leopard 2A4 for the same price, even better 61 of these tanks are being upgraded to Revolution standard

This 'firework display' would probably flatten a small city

If reports are true, the PLA has approximately more than 500 of the missiles,so there will be many cities to be flattened.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Sep 28 2014, 02:37 PM

thank's for this awesome pic.. need pic like this to make some meme..

lol, better equip their hamilton with proper armament first la, their navy suck big time with no missile at all

At this rate, PLAN destroyer can dock in Manila harbor before the Pinoy navy even knows they're coming.

PLA Navy medic team practice helicopter fast roping operations

QBZ-95 latest modifications


Modified QBZ-95 (Bottom) with an original version (Top)

PLA Navy new Maritime reconnaissance/patrol aircraft undergoing final tests


The Y-8 GX6 Maritime reconnaissance/patrol aircraft undergoing final test flights

The PLA Navy has put its new Y-8 GX6 Maritime reconnaissance/patrol aircraft under final certification flights. The aircraft, a modified version of the Shian Y-8 Turboprop transport has been heavily modified from its original variant to fit the various surveillance systems and enable it to perform reconnaissance duties which includes Maritime patrolling, surveillance and Anti-Submarine warfare.

As yet, little is known about the plane and the systems it carries, but it is safe to say typical maritime reconnaissance/patrol/ASW gear such as surface search radar, MAD systems and Sonobuoy systems are standard.

The PLA Navy expects the first airplanes to be available for service by 2015.

KJ-500 AEW&C aircraft set to replace IL-76 AWACS in PLAAF (People's Liberation Army-Air Force) service



Similar to the Y-8 GX6 maritime patrol aircraft, Chinese airplane designers have once again turned to the Shian Y-8 turboprop transport plane to undergo modifications, in this case as an AEW&C airplane known as the KJ-500 which is set to supplement and eventually replace the IL-76 based AWACS aircraft currently in PLAAF service.

The AEW&C aircraft is currently undergoing final tests and is believed to be close to being accepted into full service with the PLAAF.

Jzy-01 AEWC aircraft for Liaoning?







This post has been edited by Piap: Sep 28 2014, 10:53 PM

Some eye candy lah for a change...


PLA female pilots getting ready for a flight training exercise.



This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Sep 28 2014, 11:47 PM

MBT 3000 in action

After reading ur comments some how i feel the mecha in anime will soon evolved to something in real life in near future military.

Inb4 amor core lol

the closest to most digitally and newest design on eastern block tanks

is the Japan type 10 and the korea k2. China dont talk lah, copy watever design that suit them. Even during tank competition, bring their own tank against old t72 also lose

rusia, the arma platform will reveal next year, wait and see. Hypes was it will be a totally new design tank

leopard is also an old design with improvement add-on over the years. Anyway, production already stopped iinm, the ones sold are surplus or old stock
I dont think the greman will be coming out a new tank design any time soon

This post has been edited by thpace: Sep 29 2014, 10:09 AM