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LTZ
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Oct 12 2014, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 12 2014, 12:38 PM) anybody know if boustead naval shipyard is right next to rmn lumut base?? or is it somewhere else in the lumut area bcos google maps doesnt seem to show the rmn base Ade di byk tempat.....langkawi, sepangar.....but main in lumut
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LTZ
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Oct 17 2014, 06:55 PM
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The real MPA is with ASW capabilities...... like P3C orion, P8 poseidon, Atlantique....
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Oct 17 2014, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 17 2014, 07:02 PM) Not necessary, in my view. Some planes are purely for maritime patrol and unarmed. If can do ASW duty fine, but not mandatory for MPA. In fact carrying heavy weapons like bombs, depth charges or torpedoes can shorten the patrol time of most planes significantly. Yes.....MPA can be varies.....but the REAL MPA is with ASW cap. Like sub.....they can do many tasks, but the REAL task is to sink ships. I dont want to see these normal MPA in ATM. as a maritime country, which attact many 'tourist' subs to visit our waters, we need this REAL MPA...... because only ASW MPA can hunt sub. Others just survey, record etc. This post has been edited by LTZ: Oct 17 2014, 07:45 PM
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Oct 17 2014, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 17 2014, 07:47 PM) Bro got other country subs come malaysia waters before?? Can share?? Or is it confidential Not confidential la...... subs can be in any waters because it is undetectable. Especially if that countries know we dont have sub or any ASW assets. Easy for them to visit our waters & do whatever they want.
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Oct 17 2014, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 17 2014, 08:26 PM) Lets say a prc nuclear sub come enter malaysia eez off kota kinabalu now, u think malaysia can detect?? No.... sub can only be detected within 6km if noisy one...if silent sub only 2km (for passive detection). In active detection, it can go further but with warm water here in malaysia sometimes its useless. The best is to go with VDS..... and aircraft. In wartime, to use surface ships against sub is suicide. This post has been edited by LTZ: Oct 17 2014, 08:37 PM
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Oct 17 2014, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(Piap @ Oct 17 2014, 08:11 PM) Anyone remember Several years ago got one video around the web, the local fisherman got his net stucked, he tot got big fish. Later one big submarine surfaced. Pipu said the video was near kk. That was the days before scorpene arrived. I try find the video on youtube, kenot find wor.. The title was in malay something like this : nelayan tangkap ikan "besar" It was a very low quality video, recorded during dusk. Never heard about it
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Oct 17 2014, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 17 2014, 09:14 PM) so basically subs are damn good For sure..... but still somebody questioning why we need subs. Why sub cant be detected.... because it operates in different medium. And only sound wave can travel in this medium, no other waves. Sound wave has many unpredictable behaviours ..... depending on the pressure, salinity, temperature etc.
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Oct 17 2014, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 17 2014, 08:55 PM) still got C-295 MPA and ATR72 MPA all also got ASW, with sonobuoys, MAD and torpedo i tot nowadays new generation Submarine job include launch Land attach cruise missile or anti-air missile from VLS or torpedo tube usually Military MPA will include ASW, if coast guard version just come with EOD and search and rescue radar. So far what I know VLS is still under development.....
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Oct 19 2014, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 19 2014, 05:28 PM) Anyone know our submarine have female crew .... No....even some other countries also have only men to operate sub. What I know sweden has female crews..... and for them normal. But when my french instructor went onboard swedish sub, it was a culture shock for him to see woman in towel only. So....even free country like french ppl feel 'something' I dont know what will happen if we practise the same.
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Oct 19 2014, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Oct 19 2014, 09:26 PM) Can't make an exception? It is not a real war condition, just patrols against unarmed boats from Phillipines. So the ship can still afford to be at full stop when recovering and launching helicopter. Ships need to move to launch/ recover heli...... for stability
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Oct 26 2014, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 26 2014, 11:58 AM) there will be press conference later this afternoon congratulation PDRM and ATM for a good job in Sabah! 1 wanted suspect killed Ape cerita tu??
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Oct 29 2014, 01:00 PM
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Sayonara.....pray for us.
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Nov 2 2014, 04:59 AM
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I am back now.....we made it!!!
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Nov 2 2014, 05:52 AM
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QUOTE(lulz @ Nov 2 2014, 05:08 AM) Congrats to you and the crew for the successful launch, got people asking why not bigger target? Any reason or secret or just that the torpedo already a heavyweight torpedo, anything hit by it sure cannot return fire anymore? Its considered a big target bro.....55m x 12m. But its not a bigger merchant ship or warship. Even a scrapped one quite expensive to purchase.
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Nov 2 2014, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE(lulz @ Nov 2 2014, 05:08 AM) Congrats to you and the crew for the successful launch, got people asking why not bigger target? Any reason or secret or just that the torpedo already a heavyweight torpedo, anything hit by it sure cannot return fire anymore? Its considered a big target bro.....55m x 12m. But its not a bigger merchant ship or warship. Even a scrapped one quite expensive to purchase.
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Nov 2 2014, 06:19 AM
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QUOTE(lulz @ Nov 2 2014, 06:08 AM) Would be fun to watch if got cargo ship to blow up  Yup...... no ships can escape from heavyweight torpedo....it is designed to weaken the structure & break it to 2 parts.
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Nov 2 2014, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Nov 2 2014, 06:45 AM) Powerful enough to break a brand new 12,000 tons coast guard ship?  Yup....sure. coz it will create a big hole underneath the ship.
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Nov 2 2014, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 2 2014, 09:47 AM) but this kind of test close from real war ? should target ship do some maneuverable try escape F21 or deploy anti torpedo decoy. Should be the big 'target' must be remotely controlled. Cost must be higher. So far I seen the live firing trial for torpedo only conducted on floating ships.
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Nov 2 2014, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Nov 2 2014, 09:59 AM) I think using remote-controlled target ship with running engine and some fuel in the tank will be criticized due to potential environmental risks. So, perhaps that's the reason we never see this performed. Even US never did that, even if they have the money and technology to do that. U are right
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Nov 2 2014, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(VanishS @ Nov 2 2014, 04:30 PM) Just want to ask, whats the advantages of a nuclear powered sub over conventional ones apart from its staying power at sea ? Many...... speed, endurance, more fire power......
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