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post Sep 20 2014, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(retroRT @ Sep 20 2014, 02:32 AM)
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very unlikely will happen.



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post Sep 20 2014, 02:52 AM

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no comment, just old story ,
our now priority is defending Sabah from Suluks..
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post Sep 20 2014, 08:47 AM

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Indonesia cuts steel on second SIGMA frigate

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
18 September 2014
   
Indonesian state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL held a steel-cutting ceremony for the Indonesian Navy's (Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut's/TNI-AL's) second SIGMA 10514 Perusak Kawal Rudal (PKR) guided-missile frigate in Surabaya, Indonesia, on 17 September.

The vessel is being built jointly with Dutch shipbuilder Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding (DSNS) under a contract signed in 2013 by the Indonesian Ministry of Defence. The contract follows a prior tender, signed in June 2012, to construct the first ship.

Both frigates are being assembled from six major block modules in an arrangement aimed at transferring naval shipbuilding expertise from DSNS to PT PAL. In the first vessel, four modules were built by PT PAL and two supplied by DSNS.


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post Sep 20 2014, 11:27 AM

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Why is it always Malaysia invades Singapore or Indonesia invades Singapore??

What's good in that? Singapore is nothing but a resource-less island. It depends on trade and service.....once invaded, they are all gone. Singapore becomes useless and an excess burden.....

It's more useful for Singapore to invade Bintan....it has more than 100 million tons of bauxite reserves. It can also provide more living space and better control on trade route on the strait.
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post Sep 20 2014, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 20 2014, 08:47 AM)
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Also a license to produce 18 more units for domestic use

Selain itu PT. PAL juga memastikan, pihaknya mendapat lisensi untuk 20 buah kapal. Lisensi ini tidak mengharuskan PT.PAL membayar royalti jika untuk kebutuhan dalam negeri.


http://arc.web.id/berita/585-pt-pal-dan-pe...sta-tni-al.html
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post Sep 20 2014, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(retroRT @ Sep 20 2014, 02:32 AM)
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Nah not going to happen.
malaysia and singapore rely on each other in term of economy, trade, and defense.
only retard wanted to damage such relationship.
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post Sep 20 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 20 2014, 11:27 AM)
Why is it always Malaysia invades Singapore or Indonesia invades Singapore??

What's good in that? Singapore is nothing but a resource-less island. It depends on trade and service.....once invaded, they are all gone. Singapore becomes useless and an excess burden.....

It's more useful for Singapore to invade Bintan....it has more than 100 million tons of bauxite reserves. It can also provide more living space and better control on trade route on the strait.
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Because their military strength is a threat. When you are the biggest baddest boy in the neighbourhood, the temptation to bully those weaker around you is very high.
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post Sep 20 2014, 01:29 PM

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Early pics of KRI Tarakan, TNI-AL's newest oiler, built in Banten province

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post Sep 20 2014, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 19 2014, 05:26 PM)
But u get my idea right, western anti ship missiles all small and low range except maybe rbs15 and jsm
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You can only utilized the SAM full range if target if flying 5000 feet up in the sky where everyone can see it. Anti-ship missile fly at 50 feet above the sea. The ship FC sensor will not be able to see the missile beyond the horizon, around 30km away.
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post Sep 20 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 20 2014, 10:27 AM)
Why is it always Malaysia invades Singapore or Indonesia invades Singapore??
Its different now.
One of their concern now is what if some places wishes to join SG.
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Chances of Malaysia invading Philippines is probably more than Singapore brows.gif

Has any singaporean fired a shot at us? Meanwhile pinyo

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QUOTE(Piap @ Sep 20 2014, 01:30 PM)
Its different now.
One of their concern now is what if some places wishes to join SG.
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Like which place?
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post Sep 20 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 20 2014, 11:27 AM)
Why is it always Malaysia invades Singapore or Indonesia invades Singapore??

What's good in that? Singapore is nothing but a resource-less island. It depends on trade and service.....once invaded, they are all gone. Singapore becomes useless and an excess burden.....

It's more useful for Singapore to invade Bintan....it has more than 100 million tons of bauxite reserves. It can also provide more living space and better control on trade route on the strait.
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sometimes it is not economical reasoning... israel for instance

QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 20 2014, 01:19 PM)
Nah not going to happen.
malaysia and singapore rely on each other in term of economy, trade, and defense.
only retard wanted to damage such relationship.
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very much agree... well said

QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 20 2014, 01:21 PM)
Because their military strength is a threat. When you are the biggest baddest boy in the neighbourhood, the temptation to bully those weaker around you is very high.
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threat to? jemaah islamiah? abu sayyap? al maunah? isma?
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Russian fighters intercepted by US near Alaska

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Two Russian fighters entered a US "air defence identification zone" two days ago and were intercepted by American F-22 jets near Alaska, military officers said on Friday (Sep 19).

WASHINGTON: Two Russian fighters entered a US "air defence identification zone" two days ago and were intercepted by American F-22 jets near Alaska, military officers said on Friday (Sep 19).

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The incursion on Wednesday was followed by a second incident on Thursday involving two Russian long-range bombers, which flew into Canada's air defence identification zone (ADIZ) and were intercepted by two Canadian F-18 jets, officers said. In both cases the Russian aircraft flew out of the area without incident. The Russian warplanes "never entered US sovereign air space" or Canadian air space, said Major Jamie Humphries, a spokesman for the North American Aerospace Defense Command.

In Wednesday's encounter near Alaska, the Russian fighters were accompanied by two refueling tankers and two long-range bombers, he said. Although Russian aircraft have entered the zone previously it was "the first time in a long time" that fighter jets passed through the area, said a US defence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

To safeguard a country's air space, air defence identification zones extend beyond territorial air space and are designed as a buffer to give a government more time to respond to potentially hostile aircraft. But the zones do not fall under international treaties and are not regulated under international law.

The Russian aircraft flights coincided with a visit by Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko to Washington, where he made an impassioned address on Thursday before a joint session of the US Congress, denouncing Russia's military intervention in his country.

But Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby said there was no indication of a link between Poroshenko's visit to Washington and the air incidents. "We've faced these kinds of incidents before. We take them very, very seriously. And we routinely intercept them," Kirby told CNN. "We'll make our intentions known to Russia as we always do and we'll certainly discuss our concerns with them at the appropriate time and in the appropriate venue."

It was unclear if the Russian aircraft were in the area due to exercises announced by Moscow in far-eastern regions, including the off-shore naval training grounds of the Kamchatka region. The Vostok-2014 exercise started on Friday and was scheduled to last through Sep 25 and included 100,000 troops and 120 aircraft, according to the Russian defence ministry.

In Wednesday's encounter near Alaska, the Russian aircraft veered into the air defence zone at about 7pm local time (10am, Singapore time). In Thursday's episode near Canada, the Russian bombers flew into the area at about 1.30am local time (4.30pm, Singapore time).

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post Sep 20 2014, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Sep 20 2014, 01:41 PM)
sometimes it is not economical reasoning... israel for instance
Yeah.....but what? Temasek wasn't a holy land......
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video official terbaru latihan pilot navy perancis kat tempat yang LTZ kata pernah latihan dulu di Bretagne


atreyuangel ... latihan sebelum diaorang nak pergi bom ISIS/ISIL .. sweat.gif

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post Sep 20 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 20 2014, 01:47 PM)
Yeah.....but what? Temasek wasn't a holy land......
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racial reasons.. a tiny dot filled with sino majority.. surrounded by proto malay majority countries that arent doing too well... sg is the sanctuary for the chinese diaspora at these countries... due to jealousy and envy of their wealth this group of ppl are usually prosecuted and blamed when things turn sour.. with a strong military, the wealthy ones will seek protection as refugees
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Sep 20 2014, 02:15 PM)
racial reasons.. a tiny dot filled with sino majority.. surrounded by proto malay majority countries that arent doing too well... sg is the sanctuary for the chinese diaspora at these countries... due to jealousy and envy of their wealth this group of ppl are usually prosecuted and blamed when things turn sour.. with a strong military, the wealthy ones will seek protection as refugees
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Malaysia and Indonesia won't attack a country due to only racial reasons, we know that. Also both countries actually doing quite well, compared to countries like PNG or Laos.



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post Sep 20 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Sep 20 2014, 01:41 PM)
sometimes it is not economical reasoning... israel for instance
very much agree... well said
threat to? jemaah islamiah? abu sayyap? al maunah? isma?
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Singapore considered Malaysia and Indonesia a potential threat to it's existence. In perceiving this threat, they build up their forces. Since they are a small island, Singapore strategy is mainly offensive in nature. Malaysia, facing this buildup in it's southern border, consider it a potential threat with the buidup of it's own.
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 20 2014, 02:32 PM)
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Malaysia and Indonesia won't attack a country due to only racial reasons, we know that. Also both countries actually doing quite well, compared to countries like PNG or Laos.
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true, but political situation in both countries can still be considered risky.. although did improve tremendously

QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 20 2014, 03:08 PM)
Singapore considered Malaysia and Indonesia a potential threat to it's existence. In perceiving this threat, they build up their forces. Since they are a small island, Singapore strategy is mainly offensive in nature. Malaysia, facing this buildup in it's southern border, consider it a potential threat with the buidup of it's own.
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well, if not wary small tiny dot will be overrun.. build up of forces are for deterrent.. offensive or not it is up to u to speculate.. msia should focus on it real problems at hand... terrorism n pinoy

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This is funny ... May the peace and blessing of GOD be with u.
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