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zimhibikie
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Sep 25 2014, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 24 2014, 09:58 PM) not enough shock, December time we will see 12000 tons china Coastal patrol vessel launch, that will see bigger than destroyer ship....  bigger than destroyer, yet armament still coastal patrol vessel level pun..
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zimhibikie
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Sep 25 2014, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Sep 25 2014, 11:57 AM) winnable if ram small puny ship  but then puny ship also carry 2 anti-ship missiles..
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zimhibikie
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Sep 25 2014, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 25 2014, 12:56 PM) No matter how much bigger is it, it's basically still a law-enforcement ship. So weaponry is not that important, especially when you expect only to encounter other coast guard ships. Big ship can carry more supplies and stay at sea longer. It is a patrol vessel,so there's advantage of being at at sea on patrol for a long time rather than being forced to go back to port constantly for resupply and refuel. Also there's word the ships will also have function as command and emergency resupply ship for CCG task forces. Besides, 99.9% of coast guard duties (of any country,even China) doesn't involve ship-to-ship washing sessions with neighboring country's coast guard ships. Mostly they do boring stuff like chasing smugglers, rescuing fishing boats with dead engines or finding lost tourist boats who ran out of fuel. At any case, a Coast guard ship is not a warship. If a warship is shooting at your coast guard ship, I think it can be regarded as an act of war. Anyway, if it does encounter an armed warship, it can always call any nearest PLAN warship for support. I was responding to a post saying the patrol vessel is bigger than a destroyer, thats all je la bro
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zimhibikie
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Oct 1 2014, 11:51 AM
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very syiok reading on other countries' military procurement
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zimhibikie
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Oct 5 2014, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(gang4 @ Oct 4 2014, 05:43 PM) QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 4 2014, 09:59 PM) Indonesian Army's new MPCV (Multi-Purpose Combat Vehicle).  damn nice la..Malaysians can only fap je la
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zimhibikie
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Oct 7 2014, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 7 2014, 09:56 AM) Bizarreness in the middle east If u read up on Turkish-Kurdish relations, then it wont be that bizarre..Turkish army have been fighting the YPG Kurds for decades..
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zimhibikie
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Oct 7 2014, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 7 2014, 10:02 AM) Later they have to fight isis pula.. maybe if IS dun encroach into turkey, then maybe no fight..even many foreign fighters went into Syria/Iraq thru Turkish borders..
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zimhibikie
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Oct 7 2014, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 7 2014, 10:09 AM) Not yet because they not strong enough. if isis really attack turkey actually quite vulnerable as they can attack from outside and inside. IS main goals are Syria and Iraq, then Jordan, Lebanon and the Gulf states.. QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 7 2014, 12:43 PM) North, South Korean patrol ships exchange fire A South Korean naval patrol ship near the disputed Korean sea borderDPRK and ROK patrol ships briefly exchanged fire after South Korea accused a North Korean ship of penetrating up to half a mile into the disputed sea border at the western side of the Korean peninsula. Apparently the ROK ship fired a warning shot that was answered with a shot by the DPRK ship. The both ships exchanged a few shots before both ships retreated. News Link: North, South Korea exchange fire in naval encounter marah kalah bola kot
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zimhibikie
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Oct 9 2014, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 9 2014, 12:11 AM) that is old mind set .... new trend is you sell weapon to country having dispute, than u know there ability and weapon, so for you easy take it down, went your dispute country use other country weapon, you not sure how good there weapon (maybe just know spec only) ..... errr, will country having dispute with the seller will go buy their weapons? QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Oct 9 2014, 01:00 AM) erm..ok. Then do you think it is viable for Malaysia to build own military things like Indonesia? Well, hopefully in future, China will sell their weapons and so on cheap cheap to us. China stuff is cheap cheap, but from experience, spare parts are hard come by and takes time
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zimhibikie
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Oct 10 2014, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 10 2014, 01:00 PM) 6 unit Typhoon come here for exercise .... i think 5 power military exercise join exercise sambil promote Typhoon..
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zimhibikie
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Oct 11 2014, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 10 2014, 07:18 PM) For reference.  Make it out as you may. It said RM 393 million for 'kecekapan operasi' and buying 7 new vessels..meaning RM 393 million is not totally for buying the 7 vessels..
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zimhibikie
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Oct 13 2014, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Oct 13 2014, 12:58 PM) Only $13 million each...... Need to build more than a dozen of these. the Frosch class is already too old. QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 13 2014, 01:29 PM) so cheap, ask RMN order few, than logistic issue can be solved. yup, quite cheap..but with little avenue to songlap, dun think we'll be buying them either
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zimhibikie
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Oct 15 2014, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Oct 15 2014, 10:04 PM) The tender is ady out and closed, just no news whose the winning contractor yet sometimes theres still negotiations with contractor on final design and armament
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zimhibikie
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Oct 16 2014, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 16 2014, 09:28 AM) UAV plus 30mm rws is pretty hardcore/overkill for a coast guard ship dun you think? Well not that suprising since ex-rmn vessels still also retains their guns too I think its quite nice..good firepower and with UAV, it will enhance surveillance area... these Apam patrol vessels, got specially built containment area for offenders caught by them?
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zimhibikie
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Oct 31 2014, 02:30 PM
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How come we no buy surplus US army MRAP used in Afghanistan, which can be used in ESSZone
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zimhibikie
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Nov 10 2014, 05:41 PM
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heard we were interested in Textron's Scorpion..
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zimhibikie
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Nov 12 2014, 11:03 AM
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China-made weaponry seems impressive enough and we should at least considers buying them..but test2 first la, sometimes their on-paper performance does not matched up to actual performance
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