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post Oct 10 2014, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 10 2014, 08:48 PM)
17 mil can buy very good patrol boat like ares 125 or 110.
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hahah..ada orang sudah jadi salesman??hehehehe...
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:00 PM

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Budget 2015: National Security Sector

Marhalim Abas
October 10, 2014
Malaysian Defence

SHAH ALAM: Defence Ministry got RM16.1 billion in the 2015 budget, almost exactly the same amount we spend last year. The Operational Expenditure for 2015 is RM13.335 billion almost the same amount we got in 2014.

The Development Expenditure for 2015 is RM2.744 billion compared to RM2.745 billion in 2014. Between 2011 to 2015, the amount of DE will amount to RM14.8 billion while the OE is around RM48 billion.

Unlike last year, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak did not say how the DE money is to be spend but since the AV8, LCS/SGPV and A400M projects are still on going, we can expect much of the RM2.744 billion will be spent on these projects.

Anyhow in his speech when presenting the budget, Najib gave a different amount to be given to the Armed Forces and the Defence Ministry as compared to the 2015 Budget document.

In his speech, carried by Bernama (the national news agency, Najib said “to increase the level of safety and public order as well as national security, RM17.7 billion is allocated to the ATM while RM9.1 billion, to the PDRM. A sum of RM804 million is also allocated to Maritime Enforcement Agency Malaysia to strengthen maritime enforcement.

“The Government is committed to reducing the crime rate in the country, one of the NKRAs. For this, the Government will increase the intake of policemen by 11,757 personnel, build 14 Police Headquarters (IPK) and Police Stations including a new block for IPK Perlis as well as strengthen the PDRM police patrol through the purchase of 1,000 units of motorcycles.The Government will also allocate RM121 million for PDRM to implement various programmes under NKRA.

“To increase the readiness of ATM’s personnel and assets, RM7 billion will be allocated to purchase and maintain the defence assets. Apart from this, the welfare of armed forces personnel will also be improved, including health services and housing.

“Meanwhile, to improve maritime safety, APMM will be allocated RM393 million. This is for improving operational efficiency and the purchase of seven new patrol vessels.

Despite the rhetoric on Sabah and Sarawak, not much is being provided in the 2015 budget. Najib in his speech said:

“Sabah has a long and wide coastline. To enhance security in Eastern Sabah Security Zone (ESSZONE) and Eastern Sabah Security Command (ESSCOM), the Government will allocate RM660 million.

“Two battalions comprising a battalion PGA PDRM and an Army battalion with 1,280 new personnel have been approved. Two new camps will also be built in ESSZONE, namely Kem Batalion 20 PGA in Beluran and Kem ATM in Felda Sahabat, Lahad Datu, Sabah.

“In addition, military and security operation equipment will be further improved, such as procurement of high-capability monitoring radar. The Government will also use a modified oil rig and an auxiliary vessel as Sea Basing in the ESSZONE waters, with an allocation of RM230 million through Petronas CSR programme.

“Furthermore, to enable high-capacity aircraft to land, the Government will upgrade the runway at the airport in Lahad Datu, as well as relocate Squadron Hawk from Butterworth to Labuan, with an allocation of RM50 million.

“The Government will also relocate water villages in Semporna and Sandakan in stages. The Government hopes that through the initiative, the safety of Malaysians in Sabah will be safeguarded and economic activities to rebound.”

The Hawk squadron relocation to Labuan is interesting, though. As RMAF Hawk fleet is down to 19 aircraft (six two seaters and 13 single seaters) one has to wonder whether this means that all of the Mk208s will be based in Labuan and the fast jet training will be left to the MB339CMs and the six Hawk Mk108s. More on this when information is available.


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post Oct 10 2014, 09:00 PM

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Procurement budget figures 2015, army 951 million, increased from RM 905m last year, Navy 1.2b up from 462m, RMAF 820m down from RM998m - dzirhan tweet
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post Oct 10 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 10 2014, 07:46 PM)
I hope the special budget allocation can afford buy larger patrol boats, i.e 25-30 meters class fast boats.
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There is a bigger version of cb90s aka cb2010.
50tonnage and 24.1 meter lengths.
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post Oct 10 2014, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 10 2014, 09:42 PM)
Why dun najib grow sum balls and station 6 hawks in layang, first combat aircrafts based in spratly islands biggrin.gif
But probably a bad idea cuz dk wat china will do tongue.gif
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Shelter tak ada. Logistic nightmare summore.
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post Oct 10 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 10 2014, 09:42 PM)
Why dun najib grow sum balls and station 6 hawks in layang, first combat aircrafts based in spratly islands biggrin.gif
But probably a bad idea cuz dk wat china will do tongue.gif
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Those balls need some support before challenging anyone. sweat.gif
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post Oct 10 2014, 10:38 PM

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buy this one la. inside like luxury yacht a bit. our navy/apmm sure will love.

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post Oct 10 2014, 10:56 PM

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Acquisition budget for APMM new patrol vessels should be enough, good patrol vessels should still be within the budget involved. Better still if can gov can encourage local shipbuilders to design our own design for small, simple naval ships such as FAC or medium-sized Patrol vessels.

No fancy-nancy revolutionary tech stuff like stealth features, catamarans hulls or those other nonsense. A dependable, seaworthy 20-30 meter long patrol vessel with decent electronic gear and good speed & endurance is sufficient enough for APMM coastal patrol use. Patrol vessels like this can even be adapted from civilian designs with no major problems since they don't really need mil-spec technology or specifications. Probably don't even need big shipyards like Boustead, a shipyard with good experience building small civilian ships probably would already have enough expertise for this type of design.
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post Oct 10 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 10 2014, 10:14 PM)
There is a bigger version of cb90s aka cb2010.
50tonnage and 24.1 meter lengths.
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CB2010 already cancel .... anyway Cb90/Cb2010 not design for long hour patrol job ...

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The CB2010 concepts are those designed by the FMV, the Swedish procurement agency, and though they did put out a RFP to build a prototype cancelled it due to funding shortfalls. Dockstavaret

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post Oct 10 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 10 2014, 11:39 PM)
labuan shipyard convenient location plus enough skills  biggrin.gif
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if u see before in V12, there have reason why can't use Labuan Shipyard,
second no sure they have Aluminium boat "know-how". unless they propose design using heavy traditional steel.

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post Oct 10 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 10 2014, 10:56 PM)
Acquisition budget for APMM new patrol vessels should be enough, good patrol vessels should still be within the budget involved. Better still if can gov can encourage local shipbuilders to design our own design for small, simple naval ships such as FAC or medium-sized Patrol vessels.

No fancy-nancy revolutionary tech stuff like stealth features, catamarans hulls or those other nonsense. A dependable, seaworthy 20-30 meter long patrol vessel with decent electronic gear and good speed & endurance is sufficient enough for APMM coastal patrol use. Patrol vessels like this can even be adapted from civilian designs with no major problems since they don't really need mil-spec technology or specifications. Probably don't even need big shipyards like Boustead, a shipyard with good experience building small civilian ships probably would already have enough expertise for this type of design.
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if ask local propose, they maybe will ask gov to provide RnD budget..... event $$$ for prototype boat (or first ship). is any local shipyard willing to built a prototype ship (few million cost) , is mindef trust company won the contract can built a "usefull" patrol boat.
Patrol boat can use up to 200+ day in sea in year, structure reliability is more important than civilian boat.

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post Oct 11 2014, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 10 2014, 11:39 PM)
labuan shipyard convenient location plus enough skills  biggrin.gif
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Labuan shipyard?? Tolong la....lingkup kapal navy
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post Oct 11 2014, 12:09 AM

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I capture Lahat Datu Airport, current runway is 1.4km, if want extend run way to 2.5km , alot land and home need to take over from owner.
i think better find new place for New airport, current airport land can be re-develop, it close to main road anyway.

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post Oct 11 2014, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 10 2014, 09:00 PM)
if follow financial report

http://www.treasury.gov.my/data/le/jp6_5.pdf

DE for 2013 is RM3.3 billion after "revised estimate" (RM2.4b is announcement) , for 2015 is RM 4.5 billion (budget estimated) next after "semakan" may reach RM 5.0 billion

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post Oct 11 2014, 07:38 AM

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Some really good pictures from TNI Anniversary 2014.

Credit to fallenpx.

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 11 2014, 08:20 AM)

DCNS to unveil new submarine at euronaval, 4700 tons, 90 days endurance  blink.gif  , can carry alot cruise missile, asm, aam, torpedo, if we buy can go patrol shanghai sea  biggrin.gif
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Cant lawan suluk.... that area cant dive wuth sub tongue.gif


Btw is that any kind small cheap guide missile that can equip on smaller patrol boat?
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post Oct 11 2014, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 11 2014, 08:20 AM)

DCNS to unveil new submarine at euronaval, 4700 tons, 90 days endurance  blink.gif  , can carry alot cruise missile, asm, aam, torpedo, if we buy can go patrol shanghai sea  biggrin.gif
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As the name implies SMX Ocean.. very2 big diesel sub for blue water ops..
Ima just happy if can get more scorpene
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French ditch MESMA AIP? Nasib baik kita tak beli.
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 11 2014, 08:20 AM)
DCNS to unveil new conventional submarine with aip at euronaval, 4700 tons, 3 months endurance  blink.gif , if we buy can go patrol shanghai sea  biggrin.gif

25000 km range, can reach anywhere on earth, based on barracuda nuclear sub hull.

"The SMX OCEAN concept is fitted with an impressive load of up to 34 weapons for action in the four domains: anti-air, anti-surface, anti-submarine & action against land targets."

"The SMX OCEAN SSK is fitted with one large modular VLS tube that may launch up to six MdCN vertically (much like the Virginia payload module developed by GDEB for the US Navy’s Virginia class of SSN). The submarine may also deploy F21 heavy torpedoes, SM39 Block 2 anti-ship missiles and a submarine launched version of the Mica missile (A3SM Underwater Vehicle Version) for self protection against air threats."

"The focus of DCNS engineers in developing this concept was put on endurance and high sustained speed. We learned that the 4,700 tons SSK was designed for an endurance of 14,000 nautical miles (3 months autonomy) and a continuous transit speed of 14 knots for 1 week thanks to its Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system fitted with two fuel cells. The original nuclear propulsion system of the Barracuda design was also replaced with six diesel engines and three sets of Li Ion batteries."

Seems like this badass sub is only gonna be affordable to countries with big defence budget

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cost easily euro 1 billion each. almost bigger traditional submarine. for us if got rich after 2020 maybe can consider.

also i think small DCNS SMX-26 Littoral Seabed Landing Submarine may suite to as for now, it may help as on sabah to against with sulu or rescue mission, illegal activity in sabah and Riaus island . also suitable use in Spratly Islands.

Spec, 1000 tons, 4000nm range, 40mx18m meter, depth: 150m



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post Oct 11 2014, 11:47 AM

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asyik sembang pasal aset je, otai2 tak nak explain pasal taktikal perang jet pejuang di udara & taktikal perang submarine di laut dalam ke?



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