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TStiewgine8039
post Aug 31 2014, 01:37 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hello all sifus here,
I am now looking for an large SUV,
currently looking at Fortuner 2.5 diesel and Pajero Sport VGT,
need to know any review or comments on these two cars.
Other value for money suv please recommend to me as well,
if possible, 7 seater SUV, and diesel maybe. Petrol not tahan
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post Aug 31 2014, 01:41 PM

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If diesel option then remember to add one option Santa Fe into the list.
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post Aug 31 2014, 01:43 PM

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post Aug 31 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 31 2014, 01:41 PM)
If diesel option then remember to add one option Santa Fe into the list.
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i would like to, but there is no diesel showroom at my place, so have to let that go.
whats your opinion on fortuner and vgt?
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post Aug 31 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Aug 31 2014, 01:43 PM)
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post Aug 31 2014, 01:54 PM

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forget santa fe. comes with pathetic 2 airbags despite its good looking big SUV.
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post Aug 31 2014, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Aug 31 2014, 01:54 PM)
forget santa fe. comes with pathetic 2 airbags despite its good looking big SUV.
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sadly, pajero sport vgt and fortuner also same, 2 airbags only
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post Aug 31 2014, 03:16 PM

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Need offroad capabilities or not ??? If really need offroad, consider pickup instead, it is cheaper.

I don't think Santa FE can do offroad. It is not body on frame chassis.
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post Aug 31 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 31 2014, 03:16 PM)
Need offroad capabilities or not ??? If really need offroad, consider pickup instead, it is cheaper.

I don't think Santa FE can do offroad. It is not body on frame chassis.
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Not really need off-road, but many road condition here at Sabah and Sarawak not so good.
Pickup wise, not really prefer as want to use as family car
Currently driving avanza need to be careful and slow.
Avanza sold, and that's why prefer SUV.

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post Aug 31 2014, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(tiewgine8039 @ Aug 31 2014, 01:37 PM)
Hello all sifus here,
I am now looking for an large SUV,
currently looking at Fortuner 2.5 diesel and Pajero Sport VGT,
need to know any review or comments on these two cars.
Other value for money suv please recommend to me as well,
if possible, 7 seater SUV, and diesel maybe. Petrol not tahan
thanks all sifus  rclxms.gif
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I only have experience with Pajero Sport. Our company has 2 units of these SUVs, and we have covered a lot of mileage on these vehicles. Fairly comfortable during long journeys due to the high seating, and the bouncy but firm suspension soaks up the bumps and irregularities on the roads. Leather seats are quite comfortable during long journeys, quite thick. NVH is not too bad for a diesel-powered SUV. Diesel engine's noise is acceptable. There is an audible whining sound from the CVT during acceleration, but it is rather soft. ie. acceptable.

A caveat, the Pajero Sport is the only diesel-powered SUV I have experience with. No experience with Fortuner or other equivalent diesel SUVs.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 31 2014, 04:29 PM)
I only have experience with Pajero Sport. Our company has 2 units of these SUVs, and we have covered a lot of mileage on these vehicles. Fairly comfortable during long journeys due to the high seating, and the bouncy but firm suspension soaks up the bumps and irregularities on the roads. Leather seats are quite comfortable during long journeys, quite thick. NVH is not too bad for a diesel-powered SUV. Diesel engine's noise is acceptable. There is an audible whining sound from the CVT during acceleration, but it is rather soft. ie. acceptable.

A caveat, the Pajero Sport is the only diesel-powered SUV I have experience with. No experience with Fortuner or other equivalent diesel SUVs.
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Pajero Sport has no CVT version in Malaysia. Yours should be 5 AT. the whine should be the turbo spooling sound.
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post Aug 31 2014, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 31 2014, 04:29 PM)
I only have experience with Pajero Sport. Our company has 2 units of these SUVs, and we have covered a lot of mileage on these vehicles. Fairly comfortable during long journeys due to the high seating, and the bouncy but firm suspension soaks up the bumps and irregularities on the roads. Leather seats are quite comfortable during long journeys, quite thick. NVH is not too bad for a diesel-powered SUV. Diesel engine's noise is acceptable. There is an audible whining sound from the CVT during acceleration, but it is rather soft. ie. acceptable.

A caveat, the Pajero Sport is the only diesel-powered SUV I have experience with. No experience with Fortuner or other equivalent diesel SUVs.
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Thanks for the review sir! Really need some feedback from the users. May I ask the version u use is vgt or not?
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post Aug 31 2014, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(tiewgine8039 @ Aug 31 2014, 04:45 PM)
Thanks for the review sir! Really need some feedback from the users. May I ask the version u use is vgt or not?
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It's the high spec VGT.
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post Aug 31 2014, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 31 2014, 04:40 PM)
Pajero Sport has no CVT version in Malaysia. Yours should be 5 AT. the whine should be the turbo spooling sound.
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Yes, thanks for the correction. Whenever I hear the high-pitch whining sound I think of the CVT. Yes, should be the Turbo sound during acceleration.
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post Aug 31 2014, 05:14 PM

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By the way, if you want a quieter vehicle, you may want to look at petrol version SUVs. Although the Pajero Sport is quite acceptable in terms of NVH, when compared to petrol vehicles, the (diesel) engine sound of the Pajero is loud.

The Ford Focus TDCI (Turbodiesel) which runs on diesel is quieter than the Pajero Sport VGT, but it is a sedan and not an SUV. Unfortunately, the Ford SUVs are all petrol versions.
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post Aug 31 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 31 2014, 05:14 PM)
By the way, if you want a quieter vehicle, you may want to look at petrol version SUVs. Although the Pajero Sport is quite acceptable in terms of NVH, when compared to petrol vehicles, the (diesel) engine sound of the Pajero is loud.

The Ford Focus TDCI (Turbodiesel) which runs on diesel is quieter than the Pajero Sport VGT, but it is a sedan and not an SUV. Unfortunately, the Ford SUVs are all petrol versions.
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Wau... Petrol version SUV like fortuner is 2.7, less torque compare to pajero sport. And I think the FC would be much higher
The noise wise I think I can live with that. My home got a hilux, so, get used to that.

Any focus tdci in malaysia? Did not see at any place. Hmm..

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post Aug 31 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 31 2014, 05:14 PM)
By the way, if you want a quieter vehicle, you may want to look at petrol version SUVs. Although the Pajero Sport is quite acceptable in terms of NVH, when compared to petrol vehicles, the (diesel) engine sound of the Pajero is loud.

The Ford Focus TDCI (Turbodiesel) which runs on diesel is quieter than the Pajero Sport VGT, but it is a sedan and not an SUV. Unfortunately, the Ford SUVs are all petrol versions.
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There is always the Ford Everest which is a 3.0 Turbo Diesel. In Peninsular Malaysia, roadtax is expensive, in East Malaysia, I think only half the price roadtax.
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QUOTE(tiewgine8039 @ Aug 31 2014, 05:24 PM)
Wau... Petrol version SUV like fortuner is 2.7, less torque compare to pajero sport. And I think the FC would be much higher
The noise wise I think I can live with that. My home got a hilux, so, get used to that.

Any focus tdci in malaysia? Did not see at any place. Hmm..
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If you got the Hilux which is not the latest VNT badge ones, then the Pajero Sport pulls much more than Hilux. If you have the VNT version, then its almost equal. Family has a GLS version of Pajero Sport, 4WD, before the VGT version came out.
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post Aug 31 2014, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(tiewgine8039 @ Aug 31 2014, 05:24 PM)
Wau... Petrol version SUV like fortuner is 2.7, less torque compare to pajero sport. And I think the FC would be much higher
The noise wise I think I can live with that. My home got a hilux, so, get used to that.

Any focus tdci in malaysia? Did not see at any place. Hmm..
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My colleague has the Focus TDCI and I sat in his vehicle several times already. It had been discontinued by Ford just last year I think.

Okay, if you can live with the noise of the Hilux then I think the Pajero Sport VGT shouldn't be an issue as it should be quieter than the Hilux.

Diesel-powered vehicles are usually preferred as the better designs are usually more fuel efficient than the petrol equivalents. The Focus TDCI's fuel economy is very good, compared to petrol vehicles. If I'm not mistaken it registers about 4 or 5 litres/100km. Pajero Sport VGT fuel economy is fairly good. Only bad thing is most petrol stations may not have diesel sometimes, and the handle of the diesel pump is usually quite oily, and the floor is usually tainted with diesel too. Not very clean conditions at the diesel pump stations when compared to petrol pump stations.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 31 2014, 05:28 PM)
There is always the Ford Everest which is a 3.0 Turbo Diesel. In Peninsular Malaysia, roadtax is expensive, in East Malaysia, I think only half the price roadtax.
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Didn't notice the Everest. That is one big mean machine. Looks like the last row of seats at the back is more spacious than the Pajero Sport.
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If you have no issues with Hilux then the Fortuner 2.5 VNT will suit you just nice. Both using the same engine and spare parts should be ample in Sabah and Sarawak.


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post Aug 31 2014, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 31 2014, 05:28 PM)
There is always the Ford Everest which is a 3.0 Turbo Diesel. In Peninsular Malaysia, roadtax is expensive, in East Malaysia, I think only half the price roadtax.
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Hmm, miss the Everest pulak. will go and survey

QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 31 2014, 05:31 PM)
If you got the Hilux which is not the latest VNT badge ones, then the Pajero Sport pulls much more than Hilux. If you have the VNT version, then its almost equal. Family has a GLS version of Pajero Sport, 4WD, before the VGT version came out.
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My dad drove the SR Turbo version of Hilux, before the vigo version. get used to the kro..kro... sound, from far can know dad is coming home. rclxms.gif How is the GLS version? mind sharing fuel consumption?
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 31 2014, 05:32 PM)
My colleague has the Focus TDCI and I sat in his vehicle several times already. It had been discontinued by Ford just last year I think.

Okay, if you can live with the noise of the Hilux then I think the Pajero Sport VGT shouldn't be an issue as it should be quieter than the Hilux.

Diesel-powered vehicles are usually preferred as the better designs are usually more fuel efficient than the petrol equivalents. The Focus TDCI's fuel economy is very good, compared to petrol vehicles. If I'm not mistaken it registers about 4 or 5 litres/100km.  Pajero Sport VGT fuel economy is fairly good. Only bad thing is most petrol stations may not have diesel sometimes, and the handle of the diesel pump is usually quite oily, and the floor is usually tainted with diesel too. Not very clean conditions at the diesel pump stations when compared to petrol pump stations.
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The petrol station wise is not big deal here. here diesel pump is just beside the ron 95 pistol pump. lorry and otherwise normally have own pistol pump. here quite number of diesel car, especially pajero sport, fortuner, hilux, ranger, triton, landcruiser, range rover...
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 31 2014, 06:05 PM)
If you have no issues with Hilux then the Fortuner 2.5 VNT will suit you just nice. Both using the same engine and spare parts should be ample in Sabah and Sarawak.
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I still think maybe more prefer VGT than fortuner, similar price but VGT offer more in power and "slightly" better spec.
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QUOTE(tiewgine8039 @ Aug 31 2014, 06:39 PM)
Hmm, miss the Everest pulak. will go and survey
My dad drove the SR Turbo version of Hilux, before the vigo version. get used to the kro..kro... sound, from far can know dad is coming home.  rclxms.gif  How is the GLS version? mind sharing fuel consumption?
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My GLS version is around 10km/l of BHP diesel for city driving. But I not a heavy footer. It has enough power, just abit of turbo lag.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 31 2014, 06:47 PM)
My GLS version is around 10km/l of BHP diesel for city driving. But I not a heavy footer. It has enough power, just abit of turbo lag.
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10km/l for big car, good enough!
That day i tested Fortuner 2.5 diesel, the turbo lag really noticeable, but once the turbo kicks in, the acceleration is so fun! thumbup.gif

 

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