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Sep 22 2014, 11:11 AM
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Sep 22 2014, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(joequah1 @ Sep 22 2014, 11:11 AM) Dividends are irrelevant. UT investors are concerned with TOTAL GROWTH.I suggest u to compare this fund to CIMB-Principal Asia Pac Dynamic Income Kenanga Asia Pac Total Return Pheim Asia ex Japan Hwang Select Asia ex Japan Opportunity Eastspring Investments Asia Pac Equity See which one u like better? See their investment mandate, past returns, benchmark, performance vs benchmark, performance vs peers, volatility and so on I personally like the CIMB fund This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 22 2014, 11:19 AM |
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Sep 22 2014, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 22 2014, 11:18 AM) Dividends are irrelevant. UT investors are concerned with TOTAL GROWTH. Thanks for your advice. I will compare them. I suggest u to compare this fund to CIMB-Principal Asia Pac Dynamic Income Kenanga Asia Pac Total Return Pheim Asia ex Japan Hwang Select Asia ex Japan Opportunity Eastspring Investments Asia Pac Equity See which one u like better? See their investment mandate, past returns, benchmark, performance vs benchmark, performance vs peers, volatility and so on I personally like the CIMB fund Actually I was comparing to AMB Dividend trust which I'm holding, and its performing better. I will compare to those which you suggested. Thanks again. |
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Sep 22 2014, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(joequah1 @ Sep 22 2014, 11:23 AM) Thanks for your advice. I will compare them. They're different creaturesActually I was comparing to AMB Dividend trust which I'm holding, and its performing better. I will compare to those which you suggested. Thanks again. AMB Dividen Trust is 70% Malaysia + 30% Asia ex Japan The other funds I suggested and the one u looked at is UNRESTRICTED Asia fund If u dun wan a rollercoaster ride...invest in a portfolio of at least 4-5 funds. Then u can practically leave ur investments in autopilot, treat it as supplement to EPF savings. |
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Sep 22 2014, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 22 2014, 11:27 AM) They're different creatures Recently bought AMB Income Trust, so was looking for an Equity fund now. AMB Dividen Trust is 70% Malaysia + 30% Asia ex Japan The other funds I suggested and the one u looked at is UNRESTRICTED Asia fund If u dun wan a rollercoaster ride...invest in a portfolio of at least 4-5 funds. Then u can practically leave ur investments in autopilot, treat it as supplement to EPF savings. CIMB seems to be good. Will look further into it. Is it a good idea to buy Kenanga Growth in RSP? |
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Sep 22 2014, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(joequah1 @ Sep 22 2014, 11:34 AM) Recently bought AMB Income Trust, so was looking for an Equity fund now. Kenanga Growth, AMB Dividen Trust, Hwang Select Opportunity, Eastspring Equity Income, they're more or less similar creatures.CIMB seems to be good. Will look further into it. Is it a good idea to buy Kenanga Growth in RSP? Don't buy 2-3 funds that has similar investment mandate just because they are strong performers: - past performance will not necessarily repeat in future - what goes up (too much/fast) will most likely fall - don't put all eggs in one basket. in this case, if Malaysian equities kaboom, so will your portfolio Learn how to build a portfolio If u believe in what xuzen preaches, u MAY invest a large chunk (perhaps 33-50%?) in a Malaysian equity fund, then the rest spread over a Asian equity fund, a global equity fund, a small/mid cap Asia fund... FSM favours a more diversified approach, no one fund will have more than 20% allocation. See your preference...I'm more biased toward FSM approach because I also have also invested on my own in Malaysian stocks, so for my UT portfolio, it's diversified like FSM's This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 22 2014, 11:41 AM |
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Sep 22 2014, 01:46 PM
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Hwang's fund now add "Affin" in front.
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Sep 22 2014, 01:48 PM
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Sep 22 2014, 02:04 PM
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Sep 22 2014, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 22 2014, 11:18 AM) Dividends are irrelevant. UT investors are concerned with TOTAL GROWTH. Any PRS CIMB fund to recommend?I suggest u to compare this fund to CIMB-Principal Asia Pac Dynamic Income Kenanga Asia Pac Total Return Pheim Asia ex Japan Hwang Select Asia ex Japan Opportunity Eastspring Investments Asia Pac Equity See which one u like better? See their investment mandate, past returns, benchmark, performance vs benchmark, performance vs peers, volatility and so on I personally like the CIMB fund |
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Sep 22 2014, 02:23 PM
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Sep 22 2014, 02:27 PM
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maybe of interest to some....
Top 10 Best Performing Unit Trust Funds As of 12th September 2014 http://invest-made-easy.blogspot.com/2014/...rust-funds.html Private Retirement Scheme (PRS) Fund Performance As of 27 Aug 2014 http://invest-made-easy.blogspot.com/2014/...e-prs-fund.html This post has been edited by yklooi: Sep 22 2014, 02:30 PM |
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Sep 22 2014, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 22 2014, 11:39 AM) Kenanga Growth, AMB Dividen Trust, Hwang Select Opportunity, Eastspring Equity Income, they're more or less similar creatures. I believe in diversified portfolio. Moving towards that direction, that's why looking at Asia Pacific that @xuzen recommend in previous post. Don't buy 2-3 funds that has similar investment mandate just because they are strong performers: - past performance will not necessarily repeat in future - what goes up (too much/fast) will most likely fall - don't put all eggs in one basket. in this case, if Malaysian equities kaboom, so will your portfolio Learn how to build a portfolio If u believe in what xuzen preaches, u MAY invest a large chunk (perhaps 33-50%?) in a Malaysian equity fund, then the rest spread over a Asian equity fund, a global equity fund, a small/mid cap Asia fund... FSM favours a more diversified approach, no one fund will have more than 20% allocation. See your preference...I'm more biased toward FSM approach because I also have also invested on my own in Malaysian stocks, so for my UT portfolio, it's diversified like FSM's When you are saying Kenanga Growth, AMB Dividend Trust are similar, so means I should focus on either one rather than in both right? |
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Sep 22 2014, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(joequah1 @ Sep 22 2014, 03:05 PM) I believe in diversified portfolio. Moving towards that direction, that's why looking at Asia Pacific that @xuzen recommend in previous post. Yes. U don't need more than one Malaysian equity fund that focuses mainly on larger caps.When you are saying Kenanga Growth, AMB Dividend Trust are similar, so means I should focus on either one rather than in both right? But if let's say u select Kenanga Growth/AMB Dividen Trust + Hwang Select Asia Quantum/Eastspring Small Cap, then it's okay, cos Quantum and Eastspring Small Cap is investing in small/mid caps. |
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Sep 22 2014, 03:12 PM
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Sep 22 2014, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 22 2014, 02:27 PM) maybe of interest to some.... Good info Top 10 Best Performing Unit Trust Funds As of 12th September 2014 http://invest-made-easy.blogspot.com/2014/...rust-funds.html Private Retirement Scheme (PRS) Fund Performance As of 27 Aug 2014 http://invest-made-easy.blogspot.com/2014/...e-prs-fund.html |
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Sep 22 2014, 05:26 PM
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All Sifu,
First of all, pardon me for my knowledge on UT investment, as I'm just started to do some research now, As I search/compare the UT using iMoney , It showed such a great profit (refer to attachment below) Can anyone tell me how is that work ? I invest 20k and got almost 30k back after 1year ? Thats look too good to be real. I understand the risk is very high, that I might lose money as well. But I just dun understand how it actually come out with this figure. This post has been edited by jkl1980: Sep 22 2014, 05:27 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Sep 22 2014, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(jkl1980 @ Sep 22 2014, 05:26 PM) All Sifu, First, go Google or ask Wikipedia, "what is unit trust?"First of all, pardon me for my knowledge on UT investment, as I'm just started to do some research now, As I search/compare the UT using iMoney , It showed such a great profit (refer to attachment below) Can anyone tell me how is that work ? I invest 20k and got almost 30k back after 1year ? Thats look too good to be real. I understand the risk is very high, that I might lose money as well. But I just dun understand how it actually come out with this figure. UT is an investment, NOT a deposit. Investment can go + or -, there is no certainty that past performance can be replicated in the future. What is UT? To put it simply, the UT manager takes your money and invest in stocks of listed companies. Please do not assume that UT=guaranteed profit, u don't go jumping around and scream "scam!" if a fund that used to deliver +20%++ returns kaboom and plunge -30% after u buy in And this iMoney calculation will mislead newbie investors Ok, as for the calculation... U invest RM20,000 2% sales charge So u will only get RM20,000 / 1.02 = RM19,607.84 actually invested, the difference is used to pay the sales charge i.e. commission Take Kenanga Growth, past 1-yr return is +29.96% So, RM19,607.84 x 1.2996 = RM25,482.35 This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 22 2014, 05:39 PM |
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Sep 22 2014, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 22 2014, 05:30 PM) First, go Google or ask Wikipedia, "what is unit trust?" Ya, I understand the basic of the UT , what is it and how does it work. UT is an investment, NOT a deposit. Investment can go + or -, there is no certainty that past performance can be replicated in the future. What is UT? To put it simply, the UT manager takes your money and invest in stocks of listed companies. Please do not assume that UT=guaranteed profit, u don't go jumping around and scream "scam!" if a fund that used to deliver +20%++ returns kaboom and plunge -30% after u buy in And this iMoney calculation will mislead newbie investors And I understand oso it could be - / + if I invest my money in. But is it real that in the past this UT (as shown in my previous attachment) has perform that well ? ~49% in return for one year ? |
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Sep 22 2014, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(jkl1980 @ Sep 22 2014, 05:40 PM) Ya, I understand the basic of the UT , what is it and how does it work. Yes, it's real.And I understand oso it could be - / + if I invest my money in. But is it real that in the past this UT (as shown in my previous attachment) has perform that well ? ~49% in return for one year ? Past 1 year has been VERY generous to Malaysian equity investors, some small cap/speculative stocks have been flying This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 22 2014, 05:49 PM |
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