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post Sep 4 2014, 05:10 PM

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Convert credit card balance to monthly instalment, charges annualised at IRR of 5.9%

(1) Convert and invest
Or
(2) fully pay off hmm.gif

Wow, Eastspring Investments Global Emerging Markets went up a lot rclxms.gif

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post Sep 4 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Sep 4 2014, 05:25 PM)
Yes, also my biggest holding. rclxms.gif  but this GEM fund always in roller coaster mode, scary lah...
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But long-term annualised return decent, has been in the range of 7-10%
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post Sep 4 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Sep 4 2014, 05:36 PM)
same here. I believe what's went up must come down.
So invest in lower value is always better than chase the new high.
I already take my next strategy is to move some capital to property investment for lagi long-term investment.
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But...ain't property LAGI overvalued? tongue.gif
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post Sep 8 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 8 2014, 08:29 AM)
Is FSM's backup strong ? PM wise as it is PBB, felt comfortable with it. I also like the quarterly statement, free platinum card with no fees whatsoever etc.

FSM UT purchase is still held in their name ?

I am trying to check out FSM. Please correct me if the above on FSM is wrong. Thanks !
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FSM used to be under OSK, now under RHB Group.
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post Sep 8 2014, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(ragu91 @ Sep 8 2014, 10:27 AM)
Hello and good morning.

I am new to investments and currently looking at FSM to grow my money for a long term target. I read quite a lot on FSM and it seems to be quite good compared to investing through banks.

I just want to ask fellow seniors in here, what is the best strategy can be devised to see a good profitable return in few years time ?

I'm sorry if my question sounds vague. Just a little clueless on how to make a start investing. smile.gif
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1. Establish an emergency fund of at least 3-12 months (depends on your job security and your commitments, for me, I have 6 months) worth of your monthly expenses, park aside in savings account or FD or money market fund(s). DO NOT INVEST until u have this done.
2. Determine how much u can afford to invest a month.
3. The more u have, the more funds u can pick to establish a portfolio. If u have little e.g. RM100-200 a month, pick fewer funds.

Or...

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post Sep 8 2014, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(ragu91 @ Sep 8 2014, 10:59 AM)
Guess I have to sort out the rule #1 First.   sweat.gif

I have just started my career about 5 months ago, I have set aside about 1.5 months for emergency fund already . I think maybe I should put in those money into money market and save a little more on it.
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1.5 months is too little. If touch wood u lose your job, u will run out of cash rather quickly. Unless ur papa mama got loads to support u rolleyes.gif

Open an FSM account, start with RHB-OSK Cash Management Fund 2 (CMF); for money market fund, u won't go wrong with that. Rock solid stable fund, currently yielding close to 3.3% p.a. thumbup.gif

Dump all your monthly excess cash in CMF, once u exceed a certain amount, start flowing the $$$ out to other funds.

For a start, maybe u can park 1.5 months in savings account (MAKE SURE U DO NOT TOUCH IT!), 1.5 months in CMF. wink.gif

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post Sep 8 2014, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(ragu91 @ Sep 8 2014, 11:25 AM)
It is very little of course.   sweat.gif

That is because I am just few months into the job.

When u mentioned "exceed certain amount", you mean the the excess amount after minus my emergency funds ?

What I plan for now is , start with a CMF account, lets say initial investment about 2.5k and consistently top up about 500 monthly into that account. Is it advisable ?
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Yes.

As I've said, u won't go wrong with CMF. You can literally dump all your excess cash there, then slowly buy into other funds. It's an excellent "parking" facility.

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post Sep 8 2014, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Sep 8 2014, 12:25 PM)
the siggy... sweat.gif 

sekiranya dia membuka akaun hanya untuk melabur ke dalam CMF, apabila dia ingin bermula untuk melabur ke dalam dana yang lain, dia tidak dapat memanfaatkan diskaun yang diberikan kepada ahli baru. tetapi kalau nilai pelaburan bukan banyak sangat, 1% beza mungkin tidaklah begitu ketara.
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QUOTE(kiwibird @ Sep 8 2014, 12:46 PM)
Hey gurus! I am a newbie in investment and I have heard a lot of people around me saying that UT is more dangerous as compared to FD and the return is lesser than FD. i know its very subjective when it talks about the return (pros know how to earn more as copared to noobs) but do you guys think a zero-to-investment guy like me should venture into UT rather than FD? fyi, i am a busy student with a saving of around rm40k smile.gif
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If u ask me, wait until u got regular income before u invest.
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post Sep 8 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(kiwibird @ Sep 8 2014, 01:32 PM)
But i am not gonna use that money sad.gif
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What if got some unforeseen emergencies? Can your papa mama fully paid for it? If yes, then u may invest.

But I don't recommend to invest in one lump sum. Try to spread it over 12 months perhaps, buying in bits by bits.

Because u don't have income, don't be too aggressive.

These are the funds I suggest u to look at (not exhaustive list, u can try study others too:

Kenanga Growth or Hwang Select Opportunity or Eastspring Equity Income
CIMB Asia Pac Dynamic Income
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity or KAF Global Equities
Kenanga Bond or RHB-OSK Income Fund 2 or AmBond

A portfolio of 4 funds would be good enough. As for what % to allocate for each fund, that is up to your discretion. Study the FSM Recommended Portfolios to get an idea wink.gif


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post Sep 10 2014, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(exergy @ Sep 10 2014, 02:55 PM)
Thanks for the replies yklooi and ZH888

Yklooi as I said previously I have zero experience... I'm non bumi in my mid-20s and looking for an aggressive-biased portfolio. Will look into the data sheet link later tonight

ZH888 my original question is on whether the FSM portfolios are really well balanced or are they pushing for certain funds (the funds that they have) only. Eg maybe there are other funds better for global equity but FSM don't have dealings with that fund house so no recommendation by FSM into the portfolio... Just curious
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Of course FSM will only recommend funds that they have! tongue.gif

But the funds that FSM carries are wide-ranging enough, basically they only don't have Public Mutual ones. Public is...by and large, jaguh kampong. You can get comparable if not better replacements from Kenanga, HwangIM and Eastspring Investments.
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post Sep 11 2014, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(exergy @ Sep 10 2014, 10:55 PM)
thanks for the reply  notworthy.gif

i was about to ask if all you sifu here have reasons to dislike the FSM portfolio recommendations but further down Pink Spider kinda answered by saying the recommended list is pretty 'wide-ranging'... i was thinking of starting out with a few only from the aggressive list is since one or two are on a downward trend at the moment sweat.gif (yes i read from the beginning/middle of this thread that one should not just chase those funds with super wonderful ROIs since going up too quick cannot be sustained indefinitely and may/will come down hard also sweat.gif )
thanks for the reply and the link hmm.gif

yes the risk and age relationship is one of the common points i have read many places also, which is why im mainly focused on the aggressive portfolio part right now. probably go a bit more conservative after a few years... cross the bridge when it comes  hmm.gif 
thank you for the reply  notworthy.gif

i read that the hwang quantum ex japan fund and KGF quite popular on this thread  laugh.gif
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Hwang Quantum, yes. One of the best small-mid cap Asia ex Japan fund. Other alternative would be RHB-OSK Emerging Opportunity Unit Trust. But since takeover of OSK by RHB, most of us observed a downtrend in performance...

Eastspring Small Cap is not comparable, cos it's 100% Malaysian small-mid cap, whereas the 2 mentioned above have mandate to invest in offshore Asian markets.

As for KGF...yes, performance have been spectacular. U may also consider Eastspring Equity Income, both are 100% Malaysian equity fund. But I prefer Hwang Select Opportunity as the fund manager can diversify up to 30% in offshore markets if they see limited potential in Malaysian market.

Btw, to clarify, I'm saying FSM range of funds are wide-ranging, NOT the Recommended List. wink.gif

QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 11 2014, 08:40 AM)
Just coming from someone that is not as active here anymore.

When a lot of people is mentioning it, it's either a love or hate relationship. In this case, love. Why do we love it? It's making us money. Personally I see China/HK as a promising market (after the lousy performance I got from GEYF), but KLCI is high in terms of valuation compared to the rest of the SEA market, trading at 17x PE. So don't go too gung-ho on KGF. If you monitor the market closely, there's not much of catalyst as of now... for September and October at least based on historical trend.

Just a thought for reference.
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But then again, we are not buying an index fund. When we buy into a good fund, we are relying on the fund manager to deliver us market-beating returns. And this is very possible in less than efficient markets like in Malaysia and Asia ex Japan. wink.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 11 2014, 09:30 AM)
This mth is happy happy mth so far:

i) RHB US equity naik!
ii) Local jaguh kampong fund naik (KGF & ES Small-Cap)!
iii) Hwang Infra & REITs fund naik!
iv) And my Money Mkt of course naik lah!

Xuzen
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QUOTE(cappuccino vs latte @ Sep 10 2014, 10:45 PM)
On 'Core Equity - Asia Ex-Japan' category, YTD return for CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund (not in the recommended list) performed better than AmAsia Pacific Equity Income Fund.

On 'Core Equity - Global' category, YTD return for Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund - Class A (not in the recommended list) is far better than RHB-OSK Global Equity Yield Fund.
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CIMB Dynamite is more stable than AmAsia Pac.

And RHB-OSK Global Equity Yield...RHB-OSK...need I say more? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Sep 11 2014, 10:08 AM)
Pretty amazing month for me so far too, but more due to local stockmarket picks than FSM funds.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 11 2014, 04:01 PM)
But like you mentioned, it served as a reference right?  sad.gif
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Ya ya

Hope for the best, expect average, dump the worse icon_idea.gif

Hope for market-beating returns, expect market returns, dump market laggards icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 12 2014, 11:05 AM)
For Fixed Income lovers, any thoughts on Amconservative?
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Past performance speaks for itself:
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...eetMYAMCSVT.pdf

Comparable to the award-winning Hwang Select Income Fund, difference being, the Hwang fund can invest offshore.
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post Sep 15 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Sep 15 2014, 06:15 AM)
Generally my portfolio. It actually dropped almost 1% in 2 months time. Couldnt point out which one is the culprit but the multi manager, all the global funds seem to contribute to it
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An uninvited comment/opinion from me...

...dump the 2 RHB-OSK funds! biggrin.gif

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post Sep 15 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Sep 15 2014, 10:04 AM)
One of those RHB-OSK fund is only a feeder fund, majority of the asset feeds into the Russell funds.

Russell funds no good?
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Compare its performance vs global funds like CIMB Global Titans wink.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 15 2014, 10:14 AM)
vmad.gif  vmad.gif fyi,....my CIMB GTF from 16 Jan till 29 Aug...still -2.15%
hmm.gif should have bought at a BETTER time i guess.
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Itu...baru 7 bulan tongue.gif

Pls evaluate based on longer timeframe i.e. 3 years and above whistling.gif

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