yes.  Without HPF, proton can be high class too.  LMAO.

Everything Proton do, all just rubish by the bashers. 

nope..buy thinking to buy extra ..persona just want to renew insurance ..not worth if sell it

the thing is basher is bashing. They NEVER acknowledge any improvement or effort from Proton when they actually did.  HPF investment is part of their effort which i think a major thing.  There only few HPF facilities in the world. HPF is new for Proton. Thus i give them credit.

There is a difference between blind bashing and criticizing.  And of course there is also blind supporters who support and buy Proton because of national pride. At the early stage of Proton, people buy because of this alone.  Now, hardcore UMNO pun ludah kat Proton.

Im starting to think that your line of work is closely related to perodua.lol

Good money eh?

21 years and counting. Still rebadging.  As long as Daihatsu/Toyota won't teach local Perodua to design cars, then never.

They rebadge, and they also built their own car.  See, when Proton rebadge suddenly not ok. When Perodua rebadge ohh that's fine.  Anyway both doing rebadge, i don't endorse.  The current rebadge such as Inspira and Accord is stupid.  The accord make more business sense(platform sharing for real Perdana replacement), the current accord rebadge is still stupid. Building own D segment, with low volumes is not going to be profitable.  They need to focus on volume market first, after that get back to D segment.

BTW, P2-30A also LG-CNS as the consultation firm.

Profit goes to jepun. I don't care.  We need local engineering. Perodua supposed to help Proton, in this case help local talent.  Local engineer bersaing sesama sendiri, baru best.  Rugila belajar universiti, cita2 masa kecil nak buat kereta.. alih2 buat bumper je.

Need to cater both. Business and engineering talent.  We still learning.  At least we learn and practise. If it takes another 20 years so be it. If the purpose is right, even though lot of shortcoming, that's the challenge.  Cannot quit. But too bad, during this process, there is few yang ambil kesempatan nak untung cepat. This where Proton did wrong.  When people supporting the purpose of having local automative engineering on the early stage, few ambil kesempatan.  Back then people buy proton just for national pride.  Now fikir seratus kali to buy proton. Before buying proton, all things kena check. Even all checked, still buy non Proton. As long as not proton.

the prob is with the proton engine, if they cannot make good engine transmission, please buy from other manufacture, jaguar did that land rover did that and the list goes on, dont blame people for buying perodua for teh better engine.

20 years also learn but kenot practise. It either you quit, let Jepun do it.  No need to say still learn, and get biasiswa.

Tun already asked 1.7 billion.

you don't make any sense.

UHSS, but most did not get into the HPF process. Proton before preve already use UHSS.

Drive one, no.. Sit in one, yes.. Fuel consumption terribly bad, as my friend own a preve..

12.6l/100km = rm0.26/km.. Hmm, more/less same with my friend de.. he normally pump rm60, can move 230-250km like this..

Conventional method does not guarantee 90% part accuracy. HPF will maintain part accuracy, BIW, without need to increase metal thickness.

lol, protected by government. But untung goes to japanese.

Anyway, that is the reason why they bought the company. To acquired the tech. 

if perodua rugi also i happy. At least they try build own cars. If untung lagi happy lah. Perodua punya service baguih.  Mesti untung buat kereta sendiri.

no like.  Build own cars i like.

lotus build sports car lah. That is why fail.  But proton build normal cars, but sales number like sports car. Proton+Lotus tech transfer.

lol 

you own the tech. You have access to the design etc.  Ok lah, later all the engineer cabut, see proton can do hpf stamping or not.  I think proton will start producing tin milo back.