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SUSTham
post Aug 29 2014, 09:30 AM

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Don't you think these people would be making a complete fool out of you
if you were to pay them $ 500 for a bottle of cactus juice ?

Remember the noni craze some years ago, and all the direct sales companies
were jumping on the bandwagon ?

As I told my office manager at that time - these people are asking you to
pay $ 200 for a bottle of fruit juice.

MLM companies are started by conpeople who are out to make lots of
money from you, after finding some beneficial properties of herbs like
cancer fighters, forcing you to feed everyone of them from the downlines
to the Chairman, everytime you pay 100 times more for a product than
what it would normally cost on the free market.

There are lots of herbs, supplements and drugs which fight cancer.

The Mexicans have been using cactuses for since their forefathers
to fight cancer and other degenerative diseases.

The Mexican species of cactus which fights cancer is prickly pear,
botanical name Opuntia ficus-indica. Also called Nopal.

A similar species, Opuntia humifusa, is found in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia


Cactuses also fight diabetes.



Anti-proliferative and pro-apoptotic activity of whole extract and isolated
indicaxanthin from Opuntia ficus-indica associated with re-activation of the
onco-suppressor p16(INK4a) gene in human colorectal carcinoma (Caco-2) cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24937448




Opuntia humifusa partitioned extracts inhibit the growth of
U87MG human glioblastoma cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20814744/




Chemopreventive effect of cactus (Opuntia humifusa) extracts:
radical scavenging activity, pro-apoptosis, and anti-inflammatory
effect in human colon (SW480) and breast cancer (MCF7) cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23435602



Antimicrobial and cytotoxic effects of Mexican medicinal plants.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22312741




You can get prickly pear from Iherb, cheap.

http://www.iherb.com/Planetary-Herbals-Nop...0-Tablets/19133

http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Nopal...0-Capsules/7753

http://www.iherb.com/Seagate-Nopal-Cactus-...ggie-Caps/16738


http://www.iherb.com/HealthForce-Nutrition...VeganCaps/19243





This post has been edited by Tham: Aug 29 2014, 09:33 AM
TShomemark
post Aug 29 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Aug 29 2014, 09:30 AM)
Don't you think these people would be making a complete fool out of you
if you were to pay them $ 500 for a bottle of cactus juice ?

Remember the noni craze some years ago, and all the direct sales companies
were jumping on the bandwagon ?

As I told my office manager at that time - these people are asking you to
pay $ 200 for a bottle of fruit juice.

MLM companies are started by conpeople who are out to make lots of
money from you, after finding some beneficial properties of herbs like
cancer fighters, forcing you to feed everyone of them from the downlines
to the Chairman, everytime you pay 100 times more for a product than
what it would normally cost on the free market.

There are lots of herbs, supplements and drugs which fight cancer.

The Mexicans have been using cactuses for since their forefathers
to fight cancer and other degenerative diseases.

The Mexican species of cactus which fights cancer is prickly pear,
botanical name Opuntia ficus-indica. Also called Nopal.

A similar species, Opuntia humifusa, is found in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia
Cactuses also fight diabetes.
Anti-proliferative and pro-apoptotic activity of whole extract and isolated
indicaxanthin from Opuntia ficus-indica associated with re-activation of the
onco-suppressor p16(INK4a) gene in human colorectal carcinoma (Caco-2) cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24937448
Opuntia humifusa partitioned extracts inhibit the growth of
U87MG human glioblastoma cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20814744/
Chemopreventive effect of cactus (Opuntia humifusa) extracts:
radical scavenging activity, pro-apoptosis, and anti-inflammatory
effect in human colon (SW480) and breast cancer (MCF7) cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23435602
Antimicrobial and cytotoxic effects of Mexican medicinal plants.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22312741
You can get prickly pear from Iherb, cheap.

http://www.iherb.com/Planetary-Herbals-Nop...0-Tablets/19133

http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Nopal...0-Capsules/7753

http://www.iherb.com/Seagate-Nopal-Cactus-...ggie-Caps/16738
http://www.iherb.com/HealthForce-Nutrition...VeganCaps/19243
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Thank you for the info. So cactus juice is considered beneficial.

Wah, i guess sooner or later these supplements will be available at local pharmacies @ a fraction of the price.
evangtee
post Aug 29 2014, 10:31 AM

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Suppress cancer?

How please?
TShomemark
post Aug 29 2014, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(evangtee @ Aug 29 2014, 10:31 AM)
Suppress cancer?

How please?
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I dunno. They claimed so. hmm.gif
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post Aug 30 2014, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(homemark @ Aug 29 2014, 12:48 PM)
I dunno. They claimed so.  hmm.gif
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-- but no proof .... whistling.gif
SUSTham
post Sep 1 2014, 10:23 AM

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Anticancer, chemopreventive and radioprotective
potential of black plum (Eugenia jambolana lam.).


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21517226


http://www.apocpcontrol.org/paper_file/iss...th%20Baliga.pdf




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post Sep 1 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Sep 1 2014, 10:23 AM)
Anticancer, chemopreventive and radioprotective
potential of black plum (Eugenia jambolana lam.).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21517226
http://www.apocpcontrol.org/paper_file/iss...th%20Baliga.pdf
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another potential exploit by "health supplement" companies? hmm.gif
SUSTham
post Sep 2 2014, 02:52 AM

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Exploitation in terms of marketing by the direct sales companies rather.

Health supplement manufacturers do the legitimate work by coming out
with the extracts of the berries for you.

If you google around, you will find that pterostilbene is a powerful cancer
fighter and cognitive enhancer.

You will find 50 mg pterostilbene supplements on sale in the market.

It takes 2,000 cups of blueberries to produce 50 mg of pterostilbene.



The anticancer properties of black plums, or jamun berries, and many other
berries as well, come mainly from ellagic acid, their anthocynanidins
- delphinidin, cyanidin, petunidin, peonidin, malvidin and their flavonoids,
kaempferol and myricetin.



Effects of fruit ellagitannin extracts, ellagic acid, and their colonic metabolite,
urolithin A, on Wnt signaling.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20014760/



Eugenia jambolana Lam. berry extract inhibits growth and induces apoptosis
of human breast cancer but not non-tumorigenic breast cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19166352



The Wnt signalling pathway which ellagic acid targets is a genetic cell
signalling pathway found in many species, and is also used by cancer
cells to proliferate.

This pathway also regulates insulin sensitivity, which is why this black plum
also helps to treat diabetes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wnt_signaling...al_implications



Eugenia jambolana is also called Syzygium cumini.

Syzygium cumini (L.) Skeels: a review of its phytochemical
constituents and traditional uses.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P...?report=classic

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23569906





This post has been edited by Tham: Sep 3 2014, 12:53 AM
ngaisteve1
post Sep 3 2014, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Aug 29 2014, 10:30 AM)
Don't you think these people would be making a complete fool out of you
if you were to pay them $ 500 for a bottle of cactus juice ?

Remember the noni craze some years ago, and all the direct sales companies
were jumping on the bandwagon ?

As I told my office manager at that time - these people are asking you to
pay $ 200 for a bottle of fruit juice.

MLM companies are started by conpeople who are out to make lots of
money from you, after finding some beneficial properties of herbs like
cancer fighters, forcing you to feed everyone of them from the downlines
to the Chairman, everytime you pay 100 times more for a product than
what it would normally cost on the free market.

There are lots of herbs, supplements and drugs which fight cancer.

The Mexicans have been using cactuses for since their forefathers
to fight cancer and other degenerative diseases.

The Mexican species of cactus which fights cancer is prickly pear,
botanical name Opuntia ficus-indica. Also called Nopal.

A similar species, Opuntia humifusa, is found in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia
Cactuses also fight diabetes.
Anti-proliferative and pro-apoptotic activity of whole extract and isolated
indicaxanthin from Opuntia ficus-indica associated with re-activation of the
onco-suppressor p16(INK4a) gene in human colorectal carcinoma (Caco-2) cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24937448
Opuntia humifusa partitioned extracts inhibit the growth of
U87MG human glioblastoma cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20814744/
Chemopreventive effect of cactus (Opuntia humifusa) extracts:
radical scavenging activity, pro-apoptosis, and anti-inflammatory
effect in human colon (SW480) and breast cancer (MCF7) cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23435602
Antimicrobial and cytotoxic effects of Mexican medicinal plants.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22312741
You can get prickly pear from Iherb, cheap.

http://www.iherb.com/Planetary-Herbals-Nop...0-Tablets/19133

http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Nopal...0-Capsules/7753

http://www.iherb.com/Seagate-Nopal-Cactus-...ggie-Caps/16738
http://www.iherb.com/HealthForce-Nutrition...VeganCaps/19243
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Tham, you got my PM?
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post Sep 3 2014, 10:46 AM

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Their products are not bad but as with any MLM companies, prices are always on the high side. You can get the equivalent products with the same effects for lower price if you do your research at organic shops
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 3 2014, 10:46 AM)
Their products are not bad but as with any MLM companies, prices are always on the high side. You can get the equivalent products with the same effects for lower price if you do your research at organic shops
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Where do you usually get your products?
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this product seems to be making a comeback... i've got my family members and also wife's colleagues promoting this product....

well...any alternative to this? like aloe vera juice extract, will that be a good alternative? another friend recommend this as the cheaper option...
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MLM.......
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this is a long time ago thread smile.gif

The relatives no longer pushing us to buy these cactus juice concentrate. My inlaws also no longer purchase them (no mention even).

I doubt they even continue to drink it nowadays. The price is really steep to be honest.


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post Jun 29 2017, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jun 21 2017, 10:46 AM)
this product seems to be making a comeback... i've got my family members and also wife's colleagues promoting this product....

well...any alternative to this? like aloe vera juice extract, will that be a good alternative? another friend recommend this as the cheaper option...
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You can use Sodium Copper Chlorophyllin powder, one tub can last for more than a month.

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/dietary-fac...l-chlorophyllin

Price is less than RM 90 for 1.5 months supply or 45 servings



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I am interested to buy E Excel Millenium Red.
Anyone had stock, please contact me.
Tel: 0193388928

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post Jul 3 2017, 08:52 AM

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If I can get the proof that, you can make people live until 1000 years old then I immediately join and buy the product. Other than that is bull-chit.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Aug 27 2014, 01:18 PM)
If you check out in detail, you might notice that most supplement/vitamins are made of synthetic (made-made) ingredient. For example, if you go pharmacy to get some vitamin C, try to check out the ingredient. I believe you will see this thing called "ascorbic acid" at the label. But the truth is ascorbic acid is not vitamin C. Ascorbic acid is only an isolate, a fraction, a distillate of naturally occurring vitamin C.
seriously? lol. you're misled. go back to school pls

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QUOTE(touix @ Jul 3 2017, 10:03 AM)
seriously? lol. you're misled. go back to school pls
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Proof your point if you said I am misled. rolleyes.gif

oh maybe you are the E. Excel distributor. laugh.gif

Now I can get the same quality of products for less than half of the any direct sales MLM price whistling.gif

direct sales MLM sells at RM200. I can get it at around RM80-rm100

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post Nov 24 2017, 10:14 AM

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Any E Excel members? PM me.. wanna buy stuffs .

E Excel products have been good all these years. Just that lost in touch with this product due to being overseas and all.

Hear soon!

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