Anyone can tell where to find a Buddhist Master that can cure/remove black magic? Let me know the Buddhist temple location or contact.

Appreciate only serious reply .. please don't play play ok.

ur location where ?

Klang area, thanks

i know one in Cheras area, Taman Segar. interested u can pm me for address / phone

what are the symptoms ?

go thailand ac thep, ac subin, lp yeam ..

This post has been edited by yeezai: Aug 25 2014, 09:24 PM

Serious answer? OK, There is no such thing as black magic. Its all in your head and will only affect you if you believe in it due to the power of the human mind.

cari tu szeto fat ching......hk femus one...

i do come across thai monks who can do this but i dont have their contacts

why do u suspect its a black magic?

story

i can help.

Those so called "Buddhist master" who can cure black magic are not practicing Buddhism...

Your kind heart will remove the bad karma

Thats your opinion. But black magic (sihir) is real. I had seen it with my 2 eye.

Its all a magic tricky dude. Not magic as in real magic but illusions engineered by pros who are good at deceiving people.

You really think David Copperfield sawed himself in half? Or teleported himself halfway across the world? Or even made the Statue of Liberty disappear (and I know exactly how he did this)?

Take David Blaine, for instance. You think his street magic is for real? Its quite easy to debunk all his tricks if you observe him carefully.

What makes you think these 'sihir' types are any different?

its not that kind of "magic" dude.. seriously. have you ever see someone couldnt sleep for a week, then suddenly she/he vomiting sharp razor blade, a bundle of hair, lots of glass flake and other nasty things in front of you? I had seen it. Its not a spiritual jumbo mumbo, just a real things. Something that even modern medication could not explain.

Or possibly that person was unknowingly emulating Michel Lotito.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/28406/incre...d-michel-lotito

Whatever you might have witnessed, has it been tested under lab conditions? Isolate the person in a lab, scan the stomach to make sure they haven't swallowed anything beforehand, keep a close watch on their diet, and see this so-called sihir can curse until they start vomiting out funny stuff or not.

I won't believe anything until it can confound lab testing. Modern medication can't explain? Has modern medication actually even been given a proper chance before people ran off to the local quack?

Malaysian faith healer exposed.

On the other hand, we got crazy case like this
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014...s-go-into-fits/
...which is hard to explain. Did someone paid them to make up the story? what's the benefit of doing it? my skeptic mind is killing me...

few years ago got glass (kaca) comes out from my body even i didnt feel pain. it was santau. removed by Dr Harun Din. Real story.

Found this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABp22cPf_sE
Please scroll to 42.00


Atheist or theist semua ajak mari tengok, make sure your pants don't drop...

Btw where is achik1990? Somebody need to show some appreciation for the part in 44.55.

Dude, it's not real, this person swallowed the items probably because of a mental illness and their susceptibility to believe in black magic which psychologically changes the way they think as they actually believe it's real.

This is the serious answer, please don't waste your time and money on this non sense and move on with your life, there is absolutely no such thing as black magic. It's all in your head, if you think you are cursed and cannot sleep then you cannot sleep, it's not because of the magic, it's because you think it's real and that's what is effecting you. It's called the placebo effect in medicine as people sometimes get cured when they eat fake medicine, this is just the opposite way around.

This post has been edited by anantha92: Aug 28 2014, 06:55 AM

yes, i even bring her/him to MRI, Scan, Xray, Hospital, clinic, clinical expert in human anatomy, all of them were couldn't do shit about it. Have you even see a young girl lifting 12 grown man?.. I dont want to say and elaborate more in this kind of topics. It is something you should experience it by yourself first hand and I sincerely hope that none of you will involved/sick/affected by this kind of evil things.

and ad our fellow forumers said Cruxs , at the end of the day, this poor little girl/boy was treated with Perubatan Islam dengan izin Allah. I had bring this girl/boy to many places (perubatan Islam) and none of them ask for a penny... yup, this is the truth. There are no scam or what so ever. They did not get any profit by doing this. Most of them just want to help because we are not the only being that lives in this world.

While saying that, I also agree with both of you that there are some fake agency/people that involve in this kind of stuff. This group of people that tarnish the the alternative medicine institution.

Refuge in the Tripple Gem.

Taking of 5 precepts and keep it well. Do lots of good. Learn the Dhamma.

Our karma is the best protection against these hexes.

If no profit then maybe they were doing it for the attention? MRI won't reveal anything about psychological illness or obsession with wanting attention. And there is no way a 12 year old girl can lift 12 men, it's all trickery my friend.

This is coming from the bomoh himself

Yes i know it the MRI will not show anything, this is just to show you that the parent had bring his/her child through all of the proper procedure for treating their child ACCORDING the doctor advices ...
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"If no profit then maybe they were doing it for the attention"

what for? fame? pfftt.. try to think for a bit. some of them working 8 hours in the morning, and at night they treat people with this kind of problems without asking a penny.. there are still good people in this world. Don't lose hope bro/sis.

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"This is coming from the bomoh himself "

I seen it with myself.. actually the one affected by this kind of evil things is my relatives, and he/her had completely(insyaAllah) cured from it right now...

Buddhist never believe in black magic.

Nevertheless it is non existent as long you eat food your beliefs opposes (even its real).

So kalau kena sihir Melayu tu, makanlah vavi banyak sikit. Other than that, mental institution.

razor blade and such ? Thai curse.

mana ada sihir. cuma isu psikiatri.

kalau betul sihir tu wujud tak perlulah datok maharajalela tikam jww birch. tak perlulah rosli dhobi tikam sir duncan steward.

but i wont hold u for going to see a bomoh. since u believe in superstitious so much, this kind of placebo effect maybe can cure you.

mang for those that dont believe ..u have not seen anything yet ...

You want me to show you how a young girl can lift a grown man? I can stage if for you with the right props.

Lifting above your body weight is not as difficult as you think as long as the other person is cooperative. On the other hand, I can also show you a trick where 2 grown men will have a difficult time trying to lift me up (and I'm < 70kg). No magic.

Let me see the girl lift the man under MY terms. I decide the location and it will be a closed room. There will be NO setup whatsoever before hand. No time given to prepare. Lift on demand. Can't means fail.

As for not asking for money...look, like I said...its all in the mind. Sometimes, the illness is psychological. The person thinks they are ill and cannot be cured, so they appear ill and their body displays all the conditions of whatever it is they think they have. The human mind has greater unconscious control over the body than you might think.

If they're cured by Perubatan Islam or something like that, its because they made the person believe they are cured. Not saying that they are a scam. In fact, I think they provide a valuable service if they're willing to do it for free. A psychologist could do whatever it is they do but they charge by the hour and are not necessarily more effective. Sometimes, there's just no other way to cure a person if they're ill in the head. Its a placebo treatment. Kind of like the sugar pills that doctors prescribe to people who seem to chronically insist they need medication although there's nothing wrong with them.

There is a very logical explanation behind it all. The question is whether or not you are willing to dig around further than to take everything at face value.

d only cure is to seek god.

if u put your faith n trust in god, nothing can touch u.

upload some Youtube video sihir

What have u seen? Lets analyse.

come to sabah i let u see what ive seen ..

Come to kl. i wait u infront klcc fountain. lets see how powerful your black magic here.

kl nothing much there ...most kl ppl oso not from kl ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4PCSCMHw_8

kampung people easy to lie. kl people hard to lie. thats why only ulu kampung can see ghost.

clearly faked. how can people fall for this?

do you believe in god ?

bodoh tu simpan sikit

ni serious kopitiam

The discourse on black magic from an Islamic perspective would be a long one. (if you guys are interested)

There are several concepts to be understood/explained and then the understanding of the nature of black magic can be appreciated.

Magic I mean, is the supernatural, not the stageshow magic.

Yes,indeed it does exist bcs there are many planes of existence. Sometimes the planes of existence clash and we see things we aren't supposed to see. People who practise black magic know how to harness and make use of beings that exist in other planes of existence. The power of black magic is very real and can be deadly so it's best to keep clear of such stuff.

It's scary in east malaysia,thailand,indonesia,south africa and many third world countries. Those who are highly skeptical run the risk of getting cursed bcs a powerful practitioner will feel insulted if we say stuff that make them feel small.

I agree many cases are due to mental diseases (hereditary/hormonal imbalance etc) and psychological factors but a small %tage are due to black magic.

kita tengok afrikan countries, orang asal, kita gelak tengok ritual merepek...

modern people look at us, they laugh...

i tengok orang angkat orang guna jari...i teman kawan buang 'hantu' dekat sungai...i jumpa bomoh cari kereta...bomoh cari orang...my cousin kene buatan orang...sampai sembuh..

still...

i dont believe...

To believe or not its still up to you.

Santau is real .That's all. If you not belip, ask anyone who can do santau, give your own selfie . Ask him to send santau to yourself. After then , enjoy your life as you stated above.

This post has been edited by rekaito90: Sep 1 2014, 02:03 PM

Don't play with Sabah/Sarawak sihir, that's the most powerful sihir around Malaysia.

funny.

Later your lowyat ID change from 'shrimp.kebab' to 'kebab.shrimp' then you know. Hahaha

Hi pls pm the number. Tx.

Hi pls pm the contact. Tx.

believe or not in black magic is someones right
even Prophet Muhammad once hit by black magic

What is the person suffering from due to the Black Magic?

Real Buddhist masters will not do things like cure black magic.

someone kena curse micro penis.

is ok lar still got solution to that cruse.

Hi,

Anyone can help lah.

Me need contact details for leongcp?

Thks
Alpharim

To believe in black magic or not is an individual decision.
No point explaining to those who do not believe, if the latter do not want to listen with an open mind.

It's like religion - you cannot force someone to believe if he/she dies not want to believe.

I have a sifu contact. PM me

I have a sifu contact. PM me

bro belum kena boleh cakap mcm tu , black magic is real bruh ... example ...santau/santet ....black ppl call voodoo

black magic is the term use.
what really happened its way beyond human mind.

None of that has ever actually stood up to lab test conditions.

Again, it works only on people who believe in it. Those who don't simply shrug it off.

my sister brain CT scan normal, blood test normal, CT brain normal..no drug use history.

yet screaming and mumbling..

what to stood up more?

I dun have details on your sister's case. Anyway, I refer you to one of my earlier posts on this thread.

Like I said, its all in your head. In this case, being your sister's head. The problem is likely more psychological than you might think.

But some people will rather believe in black magic than the likelihood of a mental disorder, because the latter makes you think that there might be an easy cure while a disorder doesn't really have a cure and requires long-term therapy to keep it under control.

And people like the easy answer. Hence black magic.

hospital lab test and imaging report done, no sign of abnormal activities.
Q&A conducted by the doctor, response is normal.

your example of the weightlifting is poor, don't use that to made to this topic comparison.

illusion psychically is an art, nothing has to do with people so called black magic.

my 9yrs old niece saw black entity clinging at the back of my sister. so youre telling me 9yrs old told fake story to add up my sister condition's spices?

so tell me again, which part that it is 'likely' you referring to?



I seriously hope you will experience this non mental condition which is hard to explain in reality, and I hope the time will come for you.

Nor that I want you to have it, just the sake of proof you need.

Sigh...I was copy-pasting the post, not asking you to refer to all of it.

What makes you think a mental or psychological condition shows up on CT or any other medical scans or diagnosis?

Have you tried a psychologist?

As the 'black entity'...yes, I think your niece is lying. Or hallucinating. Or whatever other might make a kid make up a story. Pick whichever fits. I don't trust the words of a 9 year old, sorry.

pretty sum up what kinda attitude.

no need to further this, with that kinda opinion..

Indeed. Note that this is serious /k, yet you trust the words of a 9 year old more than a scientific explanation.

Edit: Hang on, why am I even debating this with you?

Put our conversation up on the internet. See who agrees with me, and who thinks you're the weird one. Look at what type of people they are...who supports your opinion, and who supports mine.

Go ahead.

This post has been edited by arubin: Apr 13 2017, 02:49 PM

no need to remind me of what sub topic is this.

you dont trust a 9yrs old words..

when i told you all lab test and imaging report has been done, plus the assesment done by specialist which is 20yrs++ experience in psychiatric..

you utter your nonsense opinion saying this must been a mental disorder that 'likely more to psychological'

presuming we dont need to graduate from doctorate, just listen your 'serious utter words' eh?


Im more concern on your mental opinion on this. seriously.

Not interested in the scans. But I want to know exactly they were testing in the labs, whether or not it is actually relevant, and what where the results.

And what exactly did the psychiatrist say? I believe you just said something like he cannot help or something like that, but I want to know exactly what he said about your sister's condition.

Also, you kinda jumped in on this suddenly. I don't even know what your sister has and you have been sparse on details.

But yes, who the heck takes the word of a 9 year old for truth?

The problem is Arubin, those situation was not staged with the right props.

Another thing is, You're putting your words into the mouth of others. That is kind of disrespectful.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 13 2017, 03:50 PM

What situation, exactly, though?

I'm afraid the opinion of a skeptic is pretty much going to sound disrespectful. Perhaps someone more diplomatic might have a better way to phrase things, but I'm not one to mince words and be diplomatic.

I get straight to the point.

people asking for help. not your opinion why it happen.

Actually, this is a form of help.

Accept the opinion of experts and try to approach this logically instead of treating it as supernatural?

The thing is...he said something about scans and psychiatrists, and all that.

I want to know exactly what their opinion is, and what they said. Did they really say they don't know what the problem is, or did they just gave an answer that he didn't like?

I wasn't expecting a response for something from 3 years back also, so I lost track of what this is all about.

The world is beyond our mind, to me i believe it 50/50.

Arubin do you believe in after life then? Spiritual realm? You should try out of body experience/astral project then. There are whole lot of things out there you don't know about...

scans to see the brain and the nerve system, got blood clot or not, got any previous injury or not that may cause the brain activity to half shut or not working properly - result clean as normal as adult brain result.....you said, "not interested in the scans" ?

to test urine and blood to check is there any drugs abuse or not, any unrecognised substances or not. - to rule out root cause...result clean.

psyc did told her response is normal, only psychical response seems odd, mumbling and sometimes recitation of weird words.

so care to explain to me, if the brain normal and Q&A response is normal, what cause her to be like that?


I rather be taking the 9yrs words than one ignorant adult thinking he's the smart one, but didnt realised how ridiculous the word out of his mouth.

I said all those scans are pointless because mental or neurological issues don't always shown up in scans. That's why I'm not interested. I suppose they might have been necessary initially just to make sure that its not a medical condition to begin with, but I won't set too much store in the negative results either. Just because the scans did not find something wrong does not mean that there is nothing wrong.

The human brain is still not fully understood not even by the best of doctors. However, its more likely a neurological and mental condition than anything else supernatural in the first place. You are far more likely to find a cure (well, not so much a cure, but a means to keep it under control) by finding the right specialists than to seek a 'black magic' solution because that just opens you up to a bunch of conmen plus it might actually do more harm than good.

And that is a genuine answer. I don't think a supernatural solution will work, and that by seeking one, you are going about it the wrong way.

Read back what you wrote.

I lazy to repair your faulty.

Find your own error before someone corrected it.

I also wrote that the supernatural solution might work on the basis of 'if you believe it works, than it might just work'

Doesn't mean I condone it. I still think its better you seek expert help than to attempt this.

Because you're far more likely to find a conmen than anything else.

But hey, if people offer to help you sincerely and don't really want to charge you for it, feel free to try it out.

But if they're expecting thousands in payment, I would suggest you take that money and go find a specialist instead.

Yes this is true. Psychological disorder does not always.show up in scans. Sometimes its more towards the person own mind. Note that mind and brain is 2 different entity.

Regarding the supernatural, I myself experience before. So im 50 50 on this thread

Share the address
Thank you ya

I am a firm believer in the supernatural, and even I think your sister is mentally ill.

people will never believe in such thing if they have never been in that kinda state.sometimes i wish they could experience it them self so that they will know how is it painful to be cursed or placed black magic/hexes
.

mana orang yang tak pernah kene ni nak paham bro...cuba kalau dah kene...tak tentu arah dia.bukan semua orang percaya benda macam ni.bila dah kene baru nak meronta minta tolong orang yang pandai heal.biar je lah orang macam to.ni jenis orang yang tak pernah masuk kg.entah sayur pakis pun tak kenal kot..

the existing human brain still people cant fully describe..

let alone other things.

your logic came from brain..still cannot explain full how brain works..

what does that made you?

harap maklum..

Don't mind him bruh. At first, he asked for biological explanation of such, MRI, scan here there, the psychologist opinion and what not.

When spoon fed the details, he putar halim got brain issues or mental problem and what not. How mental illness can caused glass pieces

comes out from ones body? Logically, if you ever swallow glass pieces, can you ever survive the day? Or at least if survived, you surely

had numerous wounds in your stomach, throat along the way down to the stomach. Yeah, sure got some extraordinary peoples who can

eat glass, metal, nails without posing any ill effects but most often then not, the glass pieces puking seems the very symptoms for most

who re suffering from the black magic. How exactly science explain this?

'some' people still cannot answer who created universe until now..


kept circling whenever asked..