Is it true that the Jackpot results in Magnum as well as other number betting companies are fixed by UMNO cronies? I heard from a colleague of mine that only Jackpot 2 can be won by ordinary players but Jackpot 1 is reserved for UMNO-cronies in order to fund govt projects (with the intention of songlap). Can anyone substantiate this?

lamtin can substantiate this.

umno umno everywhere.jpg...

Yes very true

The draw is not shown in public or TV.

Of course it can be fixed.


Anything can happen behind the scenes.

The computer software will weed out all numbers they intend to use as jackpot prize if it's already bought by existing peasants.

Then right before closing time, they will calculate the combo numbers that are unique and have not been bought then it is 'bought' by subsidiary companies /individuals cronies.


Malaysia is the only lottery unlike other countries like US, where we don't publicize the live draw on TV/publicly.

This post has been edited by RiddleMeThat: Aug 25 2014, 02:51 PM

The intention of doing this is to use Chinese money to fund UMNO initiatives. As they know most of the big timers are Chinese. We should only play the game with the hope of winning Jackpot 2 and the 1st 2nd and 3rd prizes as well as special/consolation prizes.

Of course lah...what you think you can win the big jackpot meh..

yes this is old news
also genting casino player who won the biggest in blackjack and roulette also umno cronies only
life is very unfair here in malaysia, please consider moving out.

Yes, I was told that this is no news but it's my first time hearing this (as if I was born yesterday... ).

I am planning to move to either Singapore, Australia or Canada. I notice that the Singapore 4D does not have Jackpot. Only 1st, 2nd and 3rd prizes as well as the others.

sarcasm or serious?

bodo main 4d = expect fairness .

but still got people play MAGNUM

They play not because they are aiming to strike Jackpot. But rather 1st, 2nd, 3rd, special and consolation prizes.

Do you think this news could be true?

I mean they just published it on the 4D portal and newspaper, but who can validate the identity of the Ipoh guy in his mid-20s?

Is anyone auditing the financial flow? Unless you have heard of people around you striking, maybe you shouldn't believe at all.

http://www.magnumit.com/magnum4d/WinnerDoc/J130114E.pdf

This post has been edited by samteng: Aug 25 2014, 03:05 PM

+9999. I like your analysis. Now I know we Chinese and Indians have been conned. Now I understand how the game is played and we should not continue to play into their game.

UMNO = Illuminati

Sports Toto draws are open to public, you can go to 13th floor Berjaya Times Square to witness it on draw day 7-8pm. Just saying.

no lar, is more like they issue back date tickets to cronies and give them the money for songlap

well here iz diff where as in other countries they publish the winners including their full name and sometimes picture ...

very true. trust me.

not shown on TV bcoz msia is muslim majority,

i think magnum draw also open to public, same lke sport toto

If here publish full names and pic...nx day all robbers/thiefs will be eyeing them. Not including yet "best" and "close" relatives

True, but for personal security and safety reasons, they choose not to publish the identities of the winners, let alone photos.

errrr.

all 3 toto, magnum and dmc draws are open to public.

they dont need to temper with the results. just need to adjust the pay out rate lesser than the odds of a set of numbers occurring. and they are already winning.

it was shown live over tv until late '70s.

How is the number draw conducted? Is it by picking from a pile of plastic egg shells or done by a computer system?

Is the draw done with real physical balls or with a computer?

If it's the latter, as long as there is no independent auditor to audit the algorithm, it can still be rigged.

4D companies do not need to rig anything to make money, because the numbers are on their side. Just that they may rig it to favor certain parties to exploit tax loopholes etc.

Anyway, lottery companies which are privately owned should not exist. Lotteries should be handled by the state to benefit the country as a form of "idiot" tax.

50% of state lottery income in Germany is channeled to support culture, sports and arts.

that is why people bet football, bet badminton, bet everything else.

Since when open to public? You can only see the live draw on the web portal using flash player. The draw is conducted behind closed doors.

yela umno jahat...

I thought they draw using balls?

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Sports Toto draws are done with coloured/numbered ping pong balls. Not computerised.

The only way I can think of to game the system is actually inserting the winning numbers and issuing the ticket AFTER the draw.

Its hard (maybe not impossible) to game the actual number selection process.

http://www.magnumit.com/magnum4d/WinnerDoc/J130114E.pdf

What do you guys think of this news. Is the winner the person it claims to be?

Kononnya. Now everything is digitalised as we are living in a digital age.

your colleague told me you are gay... it must be true...

means damacai not using draw?

They claimed to be using draw but most likely they computerise it.

in sg, the draw is shown publicly.

Yeap, I heard. More transparent. And Singapore Pools don't have 4D Jackpot. It only has the normal 1st 2nd 3rd prizes with the special/consolation prizes.

u sure ?? i got win 1st prize 2 times in 4D few years back but the money amount is not big , around 32k and 100k

http://www.magnumit.com/magnum4d/Modules/s...n_jackpot1.aspx

welcome to malaysia

can see the real balls drop from machine. Does MKT in the same way?

1st, 2nd, 3rd prizes are not a problem. What we are talking here is the Jackpot 1 prize where any 2 4D numbers from the top 3 prizes match the results.

So far Magnum, 3+1 Damacai and Sports Toto have created many millionaires in a year but we are still unsure whether it is true unless you hear of people around you strike the Jackpot 1. If so, then only can confirm it is true

oh that 1 ! but u sure ? i remember got some non umno chinese uncle won jackpot before and they post on news paper , than last year got a chinese girl age 29 won jackpot also from that , newspaper also got show

Oh, didn't know that. But still we can't validate the winner's identity. They might be paid by Magnum to advertise on the UMNO-crony who won on behalf.

can say but ya ! the winner dont want show out identity ! y a person want show identity when they won jackpot ? more ez to kidnap them ?

no wonder aluminum foil always out of stock

pipu use to make a hat

No need to show the face but at least state the surname or first name of the person (not full name for safety reason).

bro, among MKT, which one is more fair in term of drawing

MKT? don't la use acronyms

Magnum Kuda Toto

Aiya, just say MDT (Damacai). I believe Sports Toto more transparent as they have a live draw in BTS.

swt. what is BTS pulak

my uncle strike 600k 4D

100 big 100 small ..ang gong kasi number mia

ape punya bodoh la TS, esok pipu say your father can fix lottery jackpot u wanna believe aaa?? simpan la bodoh tu sikit, jgn tunjuk kat org kebodohan kau tu TS

u can go there to see they draw

but not on TV

wow.. that was cool

even with physical ball also can manipulate.. same tricks use by Magician / illusionist




i saw this online, not sure where is this

Berjaya Times Square

means both MKT draws is open to public to see live drawing?

According to the given photo in Magnum office, maybe Magnum has a live draw but the results could be rigged to favour a certain punter.

Onli in Malaysia....can....

hami ang kong, gua also want ask liao

u sure or not? need to pay back 1 wor

Have you ever imagine you can participate to drawn the 4d results?

Actually, the process to drawn the 4d results is always being conducted in the full view of the public to ensure high level of transparency and fairness so there will be no dispute for the 4d results.

There are tons of Malaysian are so fancy to understand how to make great money from lottery and they insist that there is a 4d formula to predict the winning 4d number combination. Well, I would say it is easy for us to predict the weather because we can always study the other controlling factors such as pressure, humidity & wind however for 4d numbers; it is all by random generated.

Let’s take a closer look of how Magnum 4d drawn its result:
Magnum 4d conducted the process to drawn the 4d result in a full public view, with the presence of 3 public persons to make sure the process is 100% fair and transparent. Magnum officer will performed a random draw to select 3 participants and then another draw will be performed again to determine the order among the 3 participants.
The 4d result draw start now where the first participant will activate the draw, which will see 4 drums containing 10 numbers each (0 to spinning and 1 number eventually being pick-up in each drum to produce the 4d winning number combination. Subsequent to every 4d winning number, another drum is also randomly picked to determine the 4d winning number belongs to special prizes or consolation prizes. Eight 4d winning number combinations are to be drawn by the first participant and the second set of eight numbers by the second participant and the sane goes to the third participant.
At the end of the 4d drawn process, there are total of 23 winning numbers drawn, 10 4d number combinations are belong to consolation prizes and 13 4d numbers are special prizes.

To determine the first, second and third prize from all the 23 4d winning numbers, the first participant is invited again to activate a drum which contains 13 Alphabetical letters from A-M, which will determine the third prize. It is followed by the second participant to draw the second prizes and finally the third participant to draw the first prize.

http://blog.664d.com/how-4d-results-are-drawn/

everything is possible without live draw and monitored/supervised

don't know why still so many gamblers still bet it.

Malay people also got buy 4D laaaa...

So far haven't spotted one leh. At least in my area, Petaling Jaya Utara.

u can go to HQ to see live draw what

All payoffs are done through the number games in Malaysia. Clean and fast. Just look at the companies that are allowed to do the number games, all cronies

china biggest fuli cai is also revealed with "scam", what size of magnum?

if they want to scam ..yes . they got their own way


in be4 u think is scam then x perlu beli la

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Aug 25 2014, 04:43 PM

Since it's regulated by the govt, it shouldn't be a scam. Just that there are a lot of insider news not made known to the public as to how the Jackpot winners are selected

nv bet anyway

But but but bumi tabuleh judi...halam

yes its fixed

who are the owners of these betting companies? all the biggest tycoons in Malaysia.

its a win-win game

in order to get the license to operate these game, they need gov approval

who is the gomen?

umno

so umno must gain something back from them

no gomen is stupid enough to do business without getting something back in return (in favour or monetary)

Some guy living around 30km from my hometown won toto 8 mil jackpot few years ago. Just ordinary pekerja kontrak. What say you then?

inb4 ts x boleh menang so blame be end?

http://buletinutama4d.blogspot.com/

pay back with what?

money u won?

errr...how to say ...

my uncle got waifu but no son ...after so many years liao ... then in the end ang gong give them some 'compensation'

my uncle them now 45+ d ...still no kids (gila anak ..but keep fail ..)

but few years ago ...ang gong give them number and strike 600k ..they dump all into 1 landed property ...thats all ..lol

kena liao after beli rumah baru tell us..dafuq

but as return ..that temple ..every event ..they need to go attend and do this n that lo

u know hell got 2 guy right? 1 black 1 white ...he go ask white 1

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Aug 25 2014, 05:30 PM

ofcourse la, kalau tak melayu macam mana nak main.

All draws are conducted at our draw auditorium which is always open to members of the public. They are conducted by Magnum officers together with members of the public who are randomly selected just before the start of each draw.

Each of the 23 winning numbers is randomly drawn using see-through electromechanical drums. These drums do not require direct human contact as they are electronically controlled and operated by electromechanical motors.

From the start to the finish, it is the selected members of the public that actually draw each and every one of the 23 winning numbers. By pressing a remote control button when instructed by the master of ceremony, they are the ones who activate the drums to allow one ball to be randomly captured by each drum, thereby drawing out the winning number.

Please feel free to come and watch the draw proceedings at our Draw Auditorium at Magnum House, 111 Jalan Pudu, Kuala Lumpur.

http://www.magnum4d.my/Modules/FAQ.aspx#C16

This post has been edited by samteng: Aug 25 2014, 05:44 PM

life is like that sometimes... the things you want the most you can't get, but get other thing instead.

bet he would give the rm600k for a kid of his own even.

if u ask me go ask the statue representing hell gates, i rather not.....

ask ancestor or deceased family members still ok, at least you know there is no big terms and conditions

not fixed by, u sud use "fixed to"

man you guys are stupid.

why the need to rig when 1st prize is only rm6k for a rm1 bet.

but your odds of hitting 1st prize is 1 to 10000.

statistically speaking on a long enough timeline, youre losing 40 cents on a dollar everytime you bet.

unless you win and you stop. or you win and you bet bigger hoping variance favors you.

TS dont spread rumours pls

Songlap few millions only ?

Not their style

hei bai wu chang.

malaysia jackpot tipu 1

i Beh Song Damacai. straight open top 3 instead of pick 3 from special as done by M and T

TS dont spread rumours pls

Songlap few millions only ?

Not their style

So in short, which one is the best to play? Dmc, 4d, toto???

all the same, chances is 50/50

win or lose only.

That's why I Dont gamble.
Its full of math and probability
The probability is so thin 0.000001% to kena 6D jackpot

still dont have live draw right

He lived in the same village as my friends mother. Before that he was a construction worker. Buruh kasar. After he won, a lot if people came to his house asking for help and what not. Dunno if he help them. Heard that he bought himself a big bike and a 4x4.