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jimlim007
post Apr 5 2009, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(prospeed_ballz @ Apr 5 2009, 04:30 PM)
anyone care to help....... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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buy sanyo 2009 series, then share to us,

its world smallest HD cam, 1920 x 1080 60 fps, size like cell phone
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post Apr 11 2009, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Apr 7 2009, 11:11 PM)
hi guys, click for Sanyo Xacti HD2000 Camcorder Review.  Got head-to-head pounding with Panasonic HDC-SD20 vs Canon HF20 vs Canon HF S100.

Btw, good to see that Sanyo has returned to M'sia market, saw their advertisement of xacti series in few newspaper.
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sotong, how much exact price hd2000? can it record video up to 8hours none stop in small resolution like 640x480?
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post Apr 18 2009, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:02 AM)
at the moment the "AP" set is USD597 (http://www.warehouse123.com/), original set frm M'sia Sanyo is RM3000++ i suppose.

8hr non-stop? shocking.gif why u need that long, never try b4 but even u can the battery also won't last that long lar... for me, at any event, 30min, 1hr or 2hr (very rare) video recording is good enuf, u dun want to capture every single second or end-up u would suffer the boredom during video editing laugh.gif
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hi sotong, what is the different AP set compare to other 9term of quality, performance, warranty) ? rm3k at msia blink.gif how but refer to the rpice AP 600USD is less rm2k woh sweat.gif prevoius your seh hd1010 purchased locally or from other counrty hmm.gif i cant recalled d

i need probably 6 hours to record myself, to check how was my sleeping quality smile.gif

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post Apr 20 2009, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(wcs2798 @ Apr 20 2009, 03:09 PM)
597 USD = RM2166 .total will be around rm2200++.locall is selling rm2500++.so worth it?
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erm, i also duno of this camcorder, rm2500 sound still not competitive smile.gif
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post Apr 21 2009, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Apr 21 2009, 08:14 AM)
i would go for local warranty since not much difference
got many choices now, other brands got cheaper Full-HD camcorder
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got meh?

so far as i know, this is the cheaper woh for 1080p camcorder hmm.gif
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post Apr 24 2009, 11:50 PM

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panasonic SD20 have OIS verusus sanyo hd2000 (1080p); which is better?
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post Apr 25 2009, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Apr 25 2009, 05:46 AM)
i used to have a panasonic dv cam and i would say that optical IS is alwayz a better one as compare to electronic IS.  but if u have a steady hand (like me) and some basic knowledge on proper video shooting like panning, tilting, zooming... i would say u can have a very nice steady shot. u can get some tips at:
Jans Bare Steadyhand Trick
Official Sanyo Xacti Tips
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yeah, i dont think i have steady hand. after watching the video, feel the stady hand is very importent for xacti cam sweat.gif but panasonic color is like the canon HV20, then really no point hmm.gif so far i was impression with vixia HF10 color as canon pro in color processing; but som ehoe after see this hv20 and me surprise on xacti cam. worry that pana sd20 will worst than canon hv20 hmm.gif

in deep consideration, with IS, we can learn trick and purchase enhance tool to get staedyshot, but without 1080p, we really cant do much there; aiya, hd2000 dont have 24p; taiwan ppl quote me an example of 24p vs 60p the pros and cons:


"24mbps (rice) for 24 ppl eat

24mbps (rice) for 60 ppl eat" this comment made me feel lose in video world, too deep... doh.gif

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post Apr 25 2009, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Apr 25 2009, 11:51 AM)
@jimlim007, hd2000 do have 29.970fps & 59.940fps, but once u tried 59.940fps, i wonder u would want to revert to 30fps, the 60fps fluid-like motion is just amazing.

anyhow, since u have worry on the stabilizer, then i would suggest u go for one with OIS, sanyo series is definitely a no no.

ok, let me tell u my own criteria on camcorder:
a) cheap but acceptable quality (be wary that current digital signal is immature yet (be it avchd or ISO H.264), so maybe years later u got plan to get upgrade, consider that the one that u get is just as an interim)
b) good low light performance since i shoot indoor a lot
c) portability (mainly for clubbing purpose, just shot for any happening)
c) support filter add-on (i luv wide-angle a lot)
d) 60fps (progressive)
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hi sotong, main point is my budget tight, rm2k like that. some more i wish big and keng like these feature 1080p 60fps, with IS, and color like hd2000 processing. i think current market dont have this cam for this price doh.gif

agreed that now we should go for AVCHD
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post Apr 25 2009, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Apr 25 2009, 03:59 PM)
LCD screen? what about view finder?
avchd is also immature yet tongue.gif com'on, read my thread properly laugh.gif
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huh, not very understand what u mean... doh.gif

u mean hd2000 is better than sd20 or..... hmm.gif


Added on April 25, 2009, 9:57 pmi read this, yeah 3 model for low end HD. sound like better top up budget go for mid range level hDcam is the choice hmm.gif

Performance (read in-depth lab performance at CamcorderInfo.com)
Video quality isn't the HDC-SD20's strong point. It simply doesn't have the sharpness, color accuracy, or low light performance to match any of the higher-end HD camcorders in 2009. Even other mid-range models, like the Canon HF20 and the Sanyo VPC-HD2000 have far sharper pictures, more accurate colors, and better low light performance than the HDC-SD20. The only area where the SD20 really put forth a good effort was with its surprisingly low noise levels, which are likely a result of its soft, under-sharpened picture.

Comparisons (read in-depth comparisons at CamcorderInfo.com)
If you're looking for top-notch video quality, the Panasonic HDC-SD20 shouldn't be on your radar. It is, however, a good choice for budget consumers who want to jump into the HD camcorder market with an easy-to-use product. There aren't many camcorders in the sub-$600 price range that offer the amount of features present on the HDC-SD20.

The Sanyo VPC-HD2000, which is available for around $600 - $700 may be a good alternative. It earned rave reviews in our video performance testing and put up excellent numbers all around (including terrific low light performance). The VPC-HD2000 isn't the easiest camcorder to use, however, and it's upright, pistol-grip design may be awkward for traditional videographers. It also has some confusing menus, terrible image stabilization, and odd design quirks that can make the camcorder frustrating to use.

Also in the lower price range is the GZ-HD300 (MSRP $699), an HD camcorder from JVC that records to an 80GB internal hard drive. The GZ-HD300 is another simple camcorder with sub-par video performance, but it has some decent automated features and a comfortable, compact design. It doesn't have the scope of auto features found on the HDC-SD20, but the JVC GZ-HD300 has a slight edge in video performance—although, not by much.


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post Apr 26 2009, 10:28 PM

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you should contact Micheal May (director of Transformer 1 & 2) or John Woo (Face Off); their movie are very crispy tongue.gif

may be i think you need the sony EX3 kut brows.gif

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post May 6 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(ionrage @ May 6 2009, 08:17 PM)
I am considering buying a camcorder in the range of 3k. My criteria is as follows:

Easy to use - cos never used one before and wife also can use
Good low light performance as mostly will be used indoors
No HDD preferable

I am currently looking at the Panasonic HDC-TM200 and Canon HF10. Any recommendations or feedback? Thanks.
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how much u can get for hf10? it a great cam
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post Dec 18 2009, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldkwok @ Dec 17 2009, 12:52 PM)
Ya, we don't know how this (the control of Sanyo by Panasonic) will affect the marketing of Sanyo product.
Anyway, there's now a brand new HDD camcorder kid on the block, the JVC GZ-HD620 that is suppose to have full HD at 1080p, only the second consumer camcorder to have this resolution after the Sanyo HD2000. This was just launched last week in Japan so we expect to see this soon in Malaysia. The specs look very interesting with OIS, 120 GB HDD and incredible 30X optical zoom so it should give the big three (Sony, Canon and Panasonic) a run for their money. But so far no reviews yet so don't know how it performs. Read more about it here in camcorder info.
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wow, thank for sharing. it is good to keep pressure sony and canon to come out 1080p lol
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post Dec 5 2010, 02:56 PM

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nowaday, i could predict that mid range camcorder 3999-5999 could killed by those 1080I or 1080P camera such as A55, GH1, Gh2, 60D, 7000D, wtc. although above mentioned few models could have heat and capturing time disadvantages, but their advantages are more attractive all the time. shallow DOF and interchangable lens are most key features to deliver amazing video quality.

the reason is DSLR or M43 could deliver extremely good video while keep the still image quality but those mid range camcorder only product acceptable video but worse in image still.

i alr know which direction i should go ^^ hehe
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post Dec 31 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(saru88 @ Dec 23 2010, 02:36 AM)
i used HDSLR to record videos.
perhaps it has a limitation of 12 mins video recording, but i've never tried to record a 12-min clip straight even with my camcorder. Have you?
most HDSLRs dont have AF... but if u wan the bokehness, i dun think u need AF... my 2cent...
battery life is much longer than camcorder IMO... i used my panasonic hs300 with the stock battery, max can last for 1hr of recording.
even 3rd party large battery for it, max is 2 hrs  plus of recording...
but my 60D i tried to record from 11am - 7pm... with a bit of break in between... the battery only finished... so what do u think?
low light of coz the winner will be HDSLR... camcorder's low light performance is kinda bad... prosumer is much better...
mostly i used my 60D on a tripod... cuz undeniably, it is really hard to hold for recording, unlike camcorder...
u really need a stabilizer... even a DIY 1... otherwise ur hand feel cramp for long time holding the grip...
the LCD for 60D is much better than the camcoder tho... it's sharp and clear...
bad thing about HDSLR is u kenot monitor the sound while recording, even tho u can set the volume and there's a volume better there... unlike my camcorder...

these are my compare and contrast for both my 60D and HS300...

it depends on wut u need.
for me, if u wanna produce a higher quality film with the bokehness and lower budget, of coz HDSLR will do the job... very well...
but if u just wanna shoot some normal clips... or broadcasting and documenting... or even cover events... camcorders, hands down...
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would like to correct you, there is HDSLR called GH2 would let you adjust and see the volume while in video recording even take still image. another weakness 60D to GH2 is GH2 have clean DHMI out.

i believe canon will do much better for their future camera.
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post Oct 2 2011, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(anucia @ Oct 1 2011, 11:41 PM)
please suggest a mid range hd camera . i hav dslr but i want vcam in separate
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get the Af101 or FS100

 

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