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 LYN Dota 2 Unker Tourney 2014, TEAM 7 WINS The First LYN UNKER TOURNEY!

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post Sep 4 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Sep 4 2014, 04:23 PM)
Unless u ask them see can delay or not haha.. I think I'm the only one steaming as well
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bro, remember later post the link to your streaming page ya, thanks ! laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2014, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Sep 4 2014, 04:10 PM)
Ok cool. I'll update it. We will have 2 matched at the same time and same day.. So admins will split
Yeap I will be streaming but only 1 of the 2 games since it starts at the same time

Teams be ready by 9.30pm, we will be creating a chat channel for all participants
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match between team 2 v 6 maybe will delay a bit
coz one of my mate, beetee will be late. maybe 10pm ish ++
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post Sep 4 2014, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(syzwn @ Sep 4 2014, 12:07 PM)
abang hensem jangan bully abang sad.gif
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mak ai abang hensem jangan macam tu.

kena bagi spirit team i up sikit mah biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2014, 07:45 PM

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glhf to all participating unkers for tonight's debut match! bruce.gif
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post Sep 4 2014, 09:36 PM

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My live stream channel

www.twitch.tv/tarvalslain87

Going live once teams are ready
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post Sep 4 2014, 09:44 PM

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just for fun no prizes ?

Why CD mode ? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Sep 4 2014, 09:44 PM)
just for fun no prizes ?

Why CD mode ? unsure.gif
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Yeap no prize and its for fun so CD mode biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2014, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Sep 4 2014, 09:46 PM)
Yeap no prize and its for fun so CD mode biggrin.gif
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oohh interesting...test spontaneous drafting icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 4 2014, 10:48 PM

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So today's match

Team 6 vs Team 2 - Team 2 takes default win as Team 6 missing 1 player

Team 3 vs Team 1 - Reschedule

Team captain for Team 3 and Team 1

dps404 and syzwn please update new time and date. No more re-schedule after this

This post has been edited by tarvalslain87: Sep 4 2014, 11:26 PM
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post Sep 4 2014, 11:33 PM

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To the players who went missing today:

We gave you ample time to schedule a game so there wouldn't be any availability issues. Going AWOL without notice is very irresponsible. Please keep in contact with your team captains by phone, and don't just rely on PMs.
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post Sep 5 2014, 09:22 AM

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no news at all from my team x.x"
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post Sep 5 2014, 09:33 AM

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Might need to make some adjustment.

Don't ffk la guise sad.gif
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post Sep 5 2014, 09:37 AM

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missing in action ka?

ban him in upcoming tournament (if any)

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Most of us are working so I can understand if it's hard to set a time for the matches.

But if already agreed on a date/time, then we should at least make sure that we can make it.

Hope it won't happen for the next few matches
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even if cmi,its proper to at least inform any team members or ppl in charge :/
thats more of a working ppl proper action rather than just poof gone
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post Sep 5 2014, 09:55 AM

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Maybe next time 1 team consist of 6 player...1 substitute
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post Sep 5 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Kabies1983 @ Sep 5 2014, 09:55 AM)
Maybe next time 1 team consist of 6 player...1 substitute
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Unlike other tournaments which are joined by teams whose players are selected through recruitment process, this is a paksa-rela type of team grouping.
Nobody wants to be a benchwarmer in this kind of arrangement by picking a subsitute in a team. Moreover, this unker's tourney to have fun right?
To resolve this issue in the future, why not allow all the late registers to be allowed second chance to be in the tournament and take over this MIA players as they probably are more serious in joining the competition. The MIA will be kicked out and will not be participating the tourney from there onwards and replaced by the new player.
Admins should already have a list of late registers right? so first come first serve during the start of the match in the event MIA happens.
Win-win for everybody.
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post Sep 5 2014, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(advanXer @ Sep 5 2014, 10:43 AM)
Unlike other tournaments which are joined by teams whose players are selected through recruitment process, this is a paksa-rela type of team grouping.
Nobody wants to be a benchwarmer in this kind of arrangement by picking a subsitute in a team. Moreover, this unker's tourney to have fun right?
To resolve this issue in the future, why not allow all the late registers to be allowed second chance to be in the tournament and take over this MIA players as they probably are more serious in joining the competition. The MIA will be kicked out and will not be participating the tourney from there onwards and replaced by the new player.
Admins should already have a list of late registers right? so first come first serve during the start of the match in the event MIA happens.
Win-win for everybody.
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yes..as long as got replacement is good enough.
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QUOTE(advanXer @ Sep 5 2014, 10:43 AM)
Unlike other tournaments which are joined by teams whose players are selected through recruitment process, this is a paksa-rela type of team grouping.
Nobody wants to be a benchwarmer in this kind of arrangement by picking a subsitute in a team. Moreover, this unker's tourney to have fun right?
To resolve this issue in the future, why not allow all the late registers to be allowed second chance to be in the tournament and take over this MIA players as they probably are more serious in joining the competition. The MIA will be kicked out and will not be participating the tourney from there onwards and replaced by the new player.
Admins should already have a list of late registers right? so first come first serve during the start of the match in the event MIA happens.
Win-win for everybody.
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QUOTE(Kabies1983 @ Sep 5 2014, 10:51 AM)
yes..as long as got replacement is good enough.
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I agree with the replacement but we need to ensure team balance to make this tourney fun and not one-sided. If not most people wouldnt wanna join. So without MMR we cant judge who should be the substitute.

To be fair to the committed team, we cant just use any substitute. So we will refer to the rules to make decision.

Rules already stated that we can wait for a maximum time, once that time over it depends on the team with full members in the lobby whether to take the default win or if agreed by both teams, re-schedule. Re-schedule will only be allowed once and if it still happens, they will be disqualified.

This is the first tourney we organize, so Im expecting hiccups along the way. We will improve on the next tourney.

Those who did not show up, we will consider blacklisting them in future tourneys. Once a commitment is made, you have to fulfill it unless there is an emergency or valid reason. I know its a voluntarily thing to join this tourney but be fair to your other teammates.

So I hope for future matches, all participants will be responsible enough to show up on the fixed date and time.
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post Sep 5 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Kabies1983 @ Sep 5 2014, 09:55 AM)
Maybe next time 1 team consist of 6 player...1 substitute
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Given the player shuffle format of this tournament, it's not possible. We'll be lenient as this is the first iteration, but in future versions of this tournament, FFK-ers will be banned from ever competing again.

I'm thinking of implementing a league-style rule - each team is allowed ONE reschedule throughout each stage of the tournament.

QUOTE(advanXer @ Sep 5 2014, 10:43 AM)
Unlike other tournaments which are joined by teams whose players are selected through recruitment process, this is a paksa-rela type of team grouping.
Nobody wants to be a benchwarmer in this kind of arrangement by picking a subsitute in a team. Moreover, this unker's tourney to have fun right?
To resolve this issue in the future, why not allow all the late registers to be allowed second chance to be in the tournament and take over this MIA players as they probably are more serious in joining the competition. The MIA will be kicked out and will not be participating the tourney from there onwards and replaced by the new player.
Admins should already have a list of late registers right? so first come first serve during the start of the match in the event MIA happens.
Win-win for everybody.
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It's not really paksa-rela. The shuffling decision was made because players in this guild have too wide of an MMR spread. If we allowed people to choose their own teammates, I guarantee you I can predict which team will confirm win from the brackets alone.

As for your late registers idea, yes, I think it's good. But we still need some metric to be able to sort players, and thus we'll still only be playing with players who have obtained their solo rating.

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