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 if calorie deficit by meal plan can be easily done, why do u need a cardio?

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alien9
post Aug 21 2014, 01:46 PM

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How do you get your calorie maintenance value? You multiply your BMR with your activity factor (read more on my sig). If you don't do any exercises, you can't get that 2500kcal maintenance. Most probably you'll get 2000kcal.

Why people do cardio? It's the easiest form of exercise.

Why people says cardio is a must to lose weight? It's because of their knowledge limitation.

Why people resort to Mass Gainers to gain weight? Same reason as above.

Why people starve themselves and/or consume herbalife/TRA/Shaklee to lose weight? Same reason as above.
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post Aug 21 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(sasuketaichou @ Aug 21 2014, 02:26 PM)
1. im not too active and im not very active either. that makes me active only. so i choose active multiplier to get my calorie maintenance. i dont get your point. ofc im aware if im active or not.

2. easiest form? ok

3. so u want to say that author of bodybuilding.com with experienced as personal trainer, fitness coach has already limit their knowledge?

4. ppl rely on mass gainers because of many factors. imagine a total of 2k calorie can be simply achieve with one drinks.

5. once again. this people has reach their limit?
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1. What's your BMR and what's your activity factor?

3. Research shown that HIIT and HIT > LISS. With HIIT and HIT, you'll have higher EPOC which means that your body keeps burning calorie even after you stop your exercises. Who doesn't want that?

4. Mass Gainers are full of craps. Even SPONSORED IFBB Pro that requires 5-8K kcal per day doesn't consume mass gainers from the sponsoring companies.

5. Nope. They just lazy, and lack of knowldege, and lazy. I said lazy twice? Yes I do.
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post Aug 21 2014, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(sasuketaichou @ Aug 21 2014, 08:39 PM)
1. my bmr is 1,752.40. activity factor like? 60 minutes for each workout of 3 days and 1 day rest. y?

3. how in the world they know what is hiit and hit and epoc if their knowledge is limited?

4. stay on the topic, to burn fat

5. not talking about lazy ppl rite now. my eyes is on fitness coach that writes article for cardio is a must bla bla bla
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1. OK. Just checking.

2. If they know what is HIIT, HIT and advantages on the EPOC, they won't say that cardio is a must for weight loss; hence their knowledge limitation. If they know that HITT is better than LISS, why would they advocate LISS?

4. No 4 points is about mass gainers and no sane people who want to lose fat will consume mass gainers. And more knowledgeable people will stay away from it because of the ingredient.

5. Points still on lazy people. Lazy people will not try to make a research on "What's the best method to lose fat". They will follow the GenPop opinion and hear say.

If you know about calorie in vs calorie out, then you'll know that you don't even need to exercises to lose fat. You do exercises to fasten the result. What ever exercises you do, there are pro and cons. LISS is easy, HIIT is hard but you'll get better ROI. HIIT + Weightlifting is much better. But you need to dig much much deeper in order to learn about weightlifting. What stopping you and other gurus from bodybuiling.com to learn and gain extra knowledge?
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post Aug 21 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Aug 21 2014, 09:57 PM)
i'm not sure about that.

i've been eating 1,000 cal for i can't remember how many months but my weight stays within the same 5kgs.

i think once your body adapted to your daily cal count, it just keep preserving those fat in.
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I could say that your body is in starvation mode. When you are eating way below your BMR, your body sense that you are calorie deprive hence it will holds as much fat as it could; making your weight loss stagnant (this is the same situation as polar bear hibernation).

That's the reason why extreme dieting only works for a very short while and never produce any good result. First, you'll drain out the water in your body. Second, you'll have very low amount of protein hence your body will start to breakdown your muscle tissue (your fat burning factory) for protein, glucose, energy. Third, your body will retain as much fat as it could as it sense you are in starvation mode.
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post Aug 21 2014, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Aug 21 2014, 10:51 PM)
pretty much. i lost nearly 15KG on the first 6 months and it stick there for nearly a year now.

so how do one get out of starvation mode without gaining weight in the mean time?
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Well, you can google for metabolisme damage by Dr. Layne Norton. He already covered in depth about this issue. He also have trained few bodybuilders and they won the competitions they've entered without them needing to do endless cardio and using diuretics.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Aug 25 2014, 03:18 PM)
Not trying to be condescending but isn't starvation mode a myth?
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Well, Dr. Layne Norton do covers a lot about metabolic damage lately especially mid this year. I doubt he have anything to talk about starvation mode and metabolic damage if it's a myth.

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post Aug 31 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Aug 29 2014, 10:34 AM)
I have some questions about something that I can't really figure out myself. Lets say my gf, who have been trying to slim down.

Her details:-

155cm (yes chibi biggrin.gif)
weighs around 38-39kg.
currently eating at only 900 calories.

she previously tried eating 1000 calories for quite sometime and the scale isn't moving. Once she got to 900 calories, she got off 40kg and it's now around 38kg+.

Her process has stalled for quite long now. She hits the gym almost as often as me (bout 5-6 days/week). She's doing what I do but with lighter weights and shorter rest time.

Her daily intake is already dangerously low and she's still stalling. Is this the example of metabolic damage?
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5-6 days a week of gym and her calorie intake is 900kcal + she have 22% bf? Doesn't it sound like super way off?

I guess at your current level, you should know what this looks like. Extremely low calorie intake + excessive exercises without adequate nutrition won't lead you to anywhere at all. I would say that she is having metabolic damage. You can check yourself from Dr. Layne Norton vid of symptoms of MD.

 

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