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post Aug 21 2014, 01:07 PM, updated 12y ago

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The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, also known as ISIS, has taken in over 6,000 new fighters in the month of July alone, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said in a statement today. Most of the new fighters, roughly 5,000, are Syrians, while others coming from all over the world. They joined the group at its training camps in Syria's northern provinces of al-Raqqa and Aleppo. "The number of ISIS fighters has now passed 50,000, including 20,000 non-Syrians," the groups director, Rami Abdel Rahman said. This is alarming considering that it is near to the Australian armed forces strength of 56,552 active soldiers.

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ISIS paying US$800/mth salary, fighter strength nearing Australian army

The Observatory added that the militant group pays its fighters as follows: A Syrian single receives around US$400 a month, while a married one receives that amount plus their spouse and kids also get paid. Fighters from other countries receive about US$800 monthly. On Tuesday, ISIS released a video purported to show the cold-blooded execution of American journalist James Foley as retribution for U.S. airstrikes in Iraq. Since Aug. 8, the U.S. military has struck more than 70 ISIS targets — including security checkpoints, vehicles and weapons caches. It's not clear how many militants have been killed in the strikes.


> http://www.bulletin247.com/english-news/sh...e-in-july-alone
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/international...icle6333733.ece
> http://www.abplive.in/World/2014/08/20/art...st#.U_V7IKMfMXg
> http://jpupdates.com/2014/08/19/report-600...oin-past-month/
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post Aug 21 2014, 01:08 PM

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post Aug 21 2014, 01:10 PM

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Okay, this is amusing.

All rempits who are still menganggur can fill in the forms now.
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their life worth 800 USD ?
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post Aug 21 2014, 01:11 PM

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thats alot higher than our avarage salary lolx
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quite good pay leh. got EPF SOSCO? in case perma disability during war
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our armed forces how many men?
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got life n medical insurance coverage? dental n optical benefits?

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fuiyo same as my salary
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QUOTE(hippihippo @ Aug 21 2014, 01:07 PM)
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, also known as ISIS, has taken in over 6,000 new fighters in the month of July alone, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said in a statement today. Most of the new fighters, roughly 5,000, are Syrians, while others coming from all over the world. They joined the group at its training camps in Syria's northern provinces of al-Raqqa and Aleppo. "The number of ISIS fighters has now passed 50,000, including 20,000 non-Syrians," the groups director, Rami Abdel Rahman said. This is alarming considering that it is near to the Australian armed forces strength of 56,552 active soldiers.

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ISIS paying US$800/mth salary, fighter strength nearing Australian army

The Observatory added that the militant group pays its fighters as follows: A Syrian single receives around US$400 a month, while a married one receives that amount plus their spouse and kids also get paid. Fighters from other countries receive about US$800 monthly. On Tuesday, ISIS released a video purported to show the cold-blooded execution of American journalist James Foley as retribution for U.S. airstrikes in Iraq. Since Aug. 8, the U.S. military has struck more than 70 ISIS targets — including security checkpoints, vehicles and weapons caches. It's not clear how many militants have been killed in the strikes.
> http://www.bulletin247.com/english-news/sh...e-in-july-alone
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/international...icle6333733.ece
> http://www.abplive.in/World/2014/08/20/art...st#.U_V7IKMfMXg
> http://jpupdates.com/2014/08/19/report-600...oin-past-month/
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icon_question.gif where they got all the $$$... USD400 X 50K = USD20 million a month...
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post Aug 21 2014, 01:17 PM

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perkasa & isma not sending representative there?
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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 21 2014, 01:16 PM)
icon_question.gif where they got all the $$$... USD400 X 50K = USD20 million a month...
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got epf n socso?
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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 21 2014, 01:16 PM)
icon_question.gif where they got all the $$$... USD400 X 50K = USD20 million a month...
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i am willing to bet that 'executive' and higher ranking folks will probably take more...the question is how much more?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 01:18 PM)
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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 21 2014, 01:16 PM)
icon_question.gif where they got all the $$$... USD400 X 50K = USD20 million a month...
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they are funded secretly by several islamic countries. We dont have evidence cos they are running underground.
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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Aug 21 2014, 01:19 PM)
they are funded secretly by several islamic countries. We dont have evidence cos they are running underground.
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hmm.gif rich islamic countries not many

saudi arabia
kuwait
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join them get 2 benefits. but, its kill 2 stones with 1 bird.
u get money, (400usd is ALOT in syria), and u get to go heaven.. + get to fucuk virgins, and sexual jihadists.
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Aug 21 2014, 01:14 PM)
quite good pay leh. got EPF SOSCO? in case perma disability during war
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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 21 2014, 01:19 PM)
Tiberium, known as Ichor to the Scrin, is a fictional substance that is central to the plot of much of the Command & Conquer series of real-time strategy computer ... blush.gif
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good guy pays better or the bad guys?
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post Aug 21 2014, 01:22 PM

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strange where they get that amount of money...
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post Aug 21 2014, 01:23 PM

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Very employee centered, this ISIS.
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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 21 2014, 01:20 PM)
hmm.gif rich islamic countries not many

saudi arabia
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saudis are no 1 terrorism supporter lol

They pay a lot to spread their view on islam which is done via payment to salafi jihaddist

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its prolly just one of ISIS Public relations stunts to increase recruitment...
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I thought when fighting for Allah, its meant to be free ?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 01:25 PM)
its prolly just one of ISIS Public relations stunts to increase recruitment...
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hmm.gif could be, if afer join, they dont pay also u cannot sue them
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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Aug 21 2014, 01:10 PM)
their life worth 800 USD ?
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Now they only need to hire fighter and helicopter pilots to man the aircraft that they have.
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they dont have aircraft..
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 01:34 PM)
they dont have aircraft..
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They captured some iraqi helis.

And you can buy anything from black markets these days.
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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Aug 21 2014, 01:19 PM)
they are funded secretly by several islamic countries. We dont have evidence cos they are running underground.
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They do not need funding, they now control large parts of Syria and Iraq, Mosul was the 2nd largest city in Iraq, there was hundreds of millions of USD in its banks that was looted, thats just 1 city.

They also control large oil fields now, and are selling the oil on the black market.
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Aug 21 2014, 01:17 PM)
perkasa & isma not sending representative there?
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QUOTE(jwrx @ Aug 21 2014, 01:42 PM)
They do not need funding, they now control large parts of Syria and Iraq, Mosul was the 2nd largest city in Iraq, there was hundreds of millions of USD in its banks that was looted, thats just 1 city.

They also control large oil fields now, and are selling the oil on the black market.
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tq for enlightenment!
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eh i thought fighting for the imaginary skygod no need money wan?
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wow i wonder whose paying all those money rclxms.gif
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initially they were funded by saudi, qatar and maybe turkey but now the once obedient mutt is making their own $$$$$ that they wont be needing the trio anymore.

time to panic

get up
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drop the bombshell
this outta controllll
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where they get their money from
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nice way of attracting people. remember genghis khan did the same exact thing, hiring mercenaries to increase his army and guess what happened.

anyway, those soldiers actually got paid a lot more if they succeed in taking control of a country, bonus might go extend to millions. the guys who pay them literally dont lose anything since if the merc dies, free soldier, if hes alive, military wins and use the loot from the losing side to pay them

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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 21 2014, 01:16 PM)
icon_question.gif where they got all the $$$... USD400 X 50K = USD20 million a month...
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The sell oil which can get them USD 3million per day, so u count lah. They still have 70 million extra per month to buy weapons.
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money to buy more "infidel" products?
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Aug 21 2014, 01:22 PM)
strange where they get that amount of money...
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ISIS is officially the richest terrorist organisation leh.
Net worth about 2billion USD..
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QUOTE(omaigad @ Aug 21 2014, 01:08 PM)
More than fresh grad salary here yooo
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seriously USA can easily wipe them off with nukes and airstrikes. Thanks to those humanity act or whatever geneva convention target picking makes it hard to eliminate in bulk. Fcuc civillians and all. 1 die better than all die
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Turn out you graduated from their camp within month, straightly drafted into suicide bomber division which they often send foreign conscripts to do this one-way ticket job, you are just pieces of chess in the eyes of them.
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Berjihad dan mendapat rezeki.
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fuiyoh. join ISIS boleh dapat USD800 every month + 72 virgins drool.gif
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Why never see any Muslims in FB condemn ISIS when they kill other muslims ar?
Even Indonesia govt condemn dy, why here all senyap senyap wan?
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you u 800, but mission including suicide with enemy together... got money but no chances to spend..
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Aug 21 2014, 01:47 AM)
perkasa & isma not sending representative there?
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al-Bigdaddy don't dare to accept. Scare later start to demand tongkat in ISIS.
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QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Aug 21 2014, 02:46 PM)
Turn out you graduated from their camp within month, straightly drafted into suicide bomber division which they often send foreign conscripts to do this one-way ticket job, you are just pieces of chess in the eyes of them.
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where they get money?
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QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Aug 21 2014, 01:10 PM)
Okay, this is amusing.

All rempits who are still menganggur can fill in the forms now.
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Two outcomes : either they die in a far off land or they come back to "liberate" us as battle hardened troops.
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Aug 21 2014, 06:11 PM)
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USD800 a month for a one-way trip
You'd be lucky if you are still around for the paycheck next month
thats if you're still alive


anyone still interested?

lelel
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 06:24 PM)
USD800 a month for a one-way trip
You'd be lucky if you are still around for the paycheck next month
thats if you're still alive
anyone still interested?

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its betta then your paycheck goes down to the drain

GST, income tax, door tax, bed tax, road tax, insurance, loan remittance

lel
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Aug 21 2014, 06:02 PM)
Why never see any Muslims in FB condemn ISIS when they kill other muslims ar?
Even Indonesia govt condemn dy, why here all senyap senyap wan?
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You know la what type of people are they
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QUOTE(Ultraman Returns @ Aug 21 2014, 06:32 PM)
BERSIH not violent, go and attack.
ISIS super violent, dowan to attack.
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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 06:30 PM)
its betta then your paycheck goes down to the drain

GST, income tax, door tax, bed tax, road tax, insurance, loan remittance

lel
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that USD800 is prolly the only one-off payment you'd see before you go straight to hell after involving yourself in an orgy of massacring pows and innocent civilians.

And do you even know why you pay tax in the first place?
heres a hint: Noone pays any taxes if theres no government

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Aug 21 2014, 06:34 PM)
You know la what type of people are they
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they all holy one

inb4 /k ufr /k apir against isis
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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Aug 21 2014, 01:19 PM)
they are funded secretly by several islamic countries. We dont have evidence cos they are running underground.
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They have oil.
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There is a threat already issued... matrempits joining ISIS

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3326759&hl=


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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 06:35 PM)
that USD800 is prolly the only one-off payment you'd see before you go straight to hell after involving yourself in an orgy of massacring pows and innocent civilians.

And do you even know why you pay tax in the first place?
heres a hint: Noone pays any taxes if theres no government
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u happy pay tax?

u shd be honoured a 'dato'


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Malaysia: Alleged bomb plot underscores low but credible risk of terrorism

The authorities on 19 August indicated that 19 suspects arrested between April and June had been planning to bomb discos, pubs and government buildings in the capital Kuala Lumpur and a brewery in Petaling Jaya (Petaling district, Selangor state). Although the suspects were reportedly in the early stages of planning the attacks and did not possess the necessary materials, the security forces had found several items, including military uniforms, an international Islamist terrorist group's flag, weapons and blueprints of government buildings during one of the arrests. Several of the suspects were apprehended while attempting to leave Malaysia to allegedly train with Syrian-Iraqi extremist group Islamic State (IS). The incident underscores the low but credible risk of terrorism.

Travel Briefing

There has been no terrorist attack in Malaysia in more than three decades and the security forces have been highly effective in breaking up extremist cells and disrupting terror plots in their infancy; the security forces have the capability to identify, monitor, and move against suspected militants quickly. Furthermore, the implementation of enhanced security measures in areas where Westerners congregate since the October 2002 terrorist attacks in Bali (Indonesia) has helped mitigate the risk of terrorist attacks in the country.
However, small groups motivated by a radical Islamist ideology, or those sympathetic to their cause, are present in the country. As the statement by the authorities underscores, these groups or individuals maintain the intent to carry out low-level attacks against ‘soft-targets' in urban centres across the country; small arms and explosive materials are accessible and attacks can be orchestrated with very limited resources and preparation. While such incidents would result in damage to property and minimal casualties, members in the vicinity of such incidents would face incidental risks; remain vigilant to your surroundings.

Travel Advice Summary
• Travel to Malaysia can continue.
• There is a low but credible risk of small-scale terrorist attacks by Islamist extremists in Malaysia. Remain vigilant to your surroundings; if you notice any suspicious behaviour or see a suspect package, vacate the area immediately and report the information to the authorities.
• Monitor our travel security alerts on Malaysia for further updates.
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QUOTE(weyyt @ Aug 21 2014, 05:57 PM)
fuiyoh. join ISIS boleh dapat USD800 every month + 72 virgins  drool.gif
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typo lar tu. you actually get 1 72 year old virgin.

masih nak join tak?
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Aug 21 2014, 06:41 PM)
US army USD 4k / month vs this 800 je
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and that bowe bergdahl

made his mind up

live happily with the talibans

lel
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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 06:39 PM)
u happy pay tax?

u shd be honoured a 'dato'
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Tax is Government 101.
No gov can survive without collecting taxes. You think they wanna dry all their revenue just to pay for all your welfare?

Islamic state also collect taxes, but if you dont pay, you mampus.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 06:43 PM)
Tax is Government 101.
No  gov can survive without collecting taxes. You think they wanna dry all their revenue just to pay for all your welfare?

Islamic state also collect taxes, but if you dont pay, you mampus.
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hahaha

word brethen

behold!

its capitalsm against caliphatism

inb4 cronism? blink.gif
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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 06:45 PM)
hahaha

word brethen

behold!

its capitalsm against caliphatism

inb4 cronism?  blink.gif
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Previous Islamic caliphates still has socialist and capitalist aspects in it. No such thing as versus sana sini.


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QUOTE(Ultraman Returns @ Aug 21 2014, 06:50 PM)
Haven't u watched any of the ISIS videos?
The conquered areas also must pay tax la.
Al Baghdadi say that the conquered areas must pay in the name of Allah and an Islamic governmetn.
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biarlah dia, he's still fapping to utopia.
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they are funded secretly by several islamic countries. We dont have evidence cos they are running underground.
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Snowden said ISIS = CIA. Got picture of their leader abu bakar al baghdadi in a room with john mccain
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 06:51 PM)
Previous Islamic caliphates still has socialist and capitalist aspects in it. No such thing as versus sana sini.
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user posted image

capitalsm?

cronism?

communism?

lel
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QUOTE(Ultraman Returns @ Aug 21 2014, 06:53 PM)
tapi yang hairannya, ISIS dapat sokongan padu rakyat Malaysia!
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enough with the subversion

u happy see chinese malay indian begaduh?


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i never implied that.
are u telling me that if Malaysia is against ISIS, Malay, Indian and Chinese will fight?
where is the logic in that?
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we live in a subversion nation

democracy brings up subversion

thats y a caliphatsm ideology could unite us all
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QUOTE(Ultraman Returns @ Aug 21 2014, 07:06 PM)
i never implied that.
are u telling me that if Malaysia is against ISIS, Malay, Indian and Chinese will fight?
where is the logic in that?
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You’ll never get a clue what’s being done to, and within, this country from the complicit “mainstream” media. But a KGB expert who defected to the good guys was explaining it for us back in the 80s. Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us:

Stage One: Demoralization – Elimination of American Exceptionalism, fundamental change of national identity, structural deconstruction of foundational principles, elimination of religion. Embedding a new societal design upon the psyche of generations through ideological academia. Peer pressure by elites upon academics and society to convince that prior values were inherently flawed, racist, prejudiced etc. National identity is diluted with aspersions toward historical references. National history is re-written, re-defined, and molded to fit the new intended behavioral model and create the new values.




Stage Two: Destabilization – Creation of economic, financial, and national security crisis. Also includes social crisis and breakdown of previous self-evident restrictions on moral behavior. Cloward Piven approach to overloading the system, ie more takers than producers. The crisis produces benevolent leaders who will promise to deliver “things” (Hope and Change) to meet people’s needs through Social and Economic Justice. False illusions that the situation is under control if certain strategic directions are followed (Bailouts, Stimulus, Jobs Bills, Regulations of industry, Unconstitutional Power Grabs, Dismissal of Historical Laws, Changes in legislative processes, Changes in checks and balances of power etc).

Stage Three: Crisis (becomes accepted) – The uncomfortable feelings of change including losses of freedom are absorbed and accepted. Lost national identity becomes accepted as the norm within the new societal model. A period of national rebranding transition where people are so overwhelmed by the change they become numb and begin to accept a ‘new normal’. This period of normalization lasts indefinitely as the progression is continually advanced and acceptance takes place in small controlled doses. (New limits on behavior, Regulations, TSA Patdowns, Intrusions into privacy, Controls into daily life) These things begin to be accepted as “just the way it is now”..

Stage Four: Communist Normalization - Unlike the period of “Crisis” the people who helped orchestrate the change are now no longer needed. The new overarching centralized governmental model begins to take control. Leftist usurpers who initially thought they were going to be part of the new power structure begin to realize they were used and manipulated and they themselves become the new enemy. Because they have first hand knowledge of the agenda they are the primary target for elimination. They may simply be disregarded, obfuscated, thrown out, or they may be collected, imprisoned, or worse killed. There is no longer room for dissention. Dissent is only possible within the free system that has now been deconstructed. Therefore the leftist purpose is served once the destabilization is complete. Totalitarian Government takes control…

One cannot be intellectually honest and look at this video and the summary of the Four Stages Bezmenov has outlined and not see distinct and similar, albeit creepy, parallels to today.

Granted the historical examples he presents in the video (Cambodia, Vietnam, Germany, USSR, Poland, etc) are extreme in their Stage Four result, or are they?

Perhaps a reasonable person would argue that elimination of economic capacity (to live freely) is just as restrictive as living inside a walled camp.

If you cannot live freely, earn a living freely, move about without restrictions, and determine for yourself your choices, then what really is the difference between being thrown in an internment camp and having the invisible chain link fence of diminished freedom built around your home?

If government can control your income through taxation, employment and redistribution; tell you what to eat by deciding your choices for you; tell you how much energy you are allowed to consume through rules and regulation; tell you what kind of car you can be allowed to drive; tell you what type of toilet you can buy; tell you what kind of detergent you may wash with; determine what information you have access to through the TV media and internet access; and then control your capacity to receive the healthcare of your choice; then really what is the difference between living in a collective camp under such rules and living where you are now but following the same rules ?


answer??


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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 01:25 PM)
its prolly just one of ISIS Public relations stunts to increase recruitment...
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i can sense where this is going

-recruit soldier with $800
-only work for 2 months, then get sent for suicide mission
- make fatwa where the the widow hafta marry another soldier who then will go for suicide mission too
- orphan children will later be sent for military trainings (without pay)
-???
- isis profit

only spend $1600 and you can get
- a soldier
- new trainee soldier for future generation
- comfort wimmen


ez life
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and not too mention all the sex slaves!
heck, they see me rollin, they hatin!
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john lennon been rolling in graves

making love while eating grapes

watching people greeping shun as slaves
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Aug 21 2014, 07:27 PM)
i can sense where this is going

-recruit soldier with $800
-only work for 2 months, then get sent for suicide mission
- make fatwa where the the widow hafta marry another soldier who then will go for suicide mission too
- orphan children will later be sent for military trainings (without pay)
-???
- isis profit

only spend $1600 and you can get
- a soldier
- new trainee soldier for future generation
- comfort wimmen
ez life
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Aug 21 2014, 01:41 PM)
This what happen when murica decides not want o be the world police.

Come on obama. The world needs you.
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america funded them at the first place
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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 07:00 PM)
user posted image

capitalsm?

cronism?

communism?

lel
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Criticism of current government structure does not negate that even the caliphate consist of capitalist and socialist parts.


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QUOTE(Ultraman Returns @ Aug 21 2014, 06:43 PM)
RM2560.
I think this is higher than McD assistant manager right? Or even higher than Manager pay right?
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Keep boycotting mcd. Those who lose jobs in mcd can join ISIS rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 07:09 PM)
we live in a subversion nation

democracy brings up subversion

thats y a caliphatsm ideology could unite us all
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Youre gravely mistaken if you think ISIS version of the caliphate is the leading role model for the world. Isis caliphate is not at all the same with all the previous ones.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 07:42 PM)
Criticism of current government structure does not negate that even the caliphate consist of capitalist and socialist parts.
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in reducing yes

it doesnt negate of abundance of dato n tan sris

i reckon u deserve it too
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 07:49 PM)
Youre gravely mistaken if you think ISIS version of the caliphate is the leading role model for the world. Isis caliphate is not at all the same with all the previous ones.
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watching youtube and read newspaper?

that assumption

that propaganda assumption

lel

negate u from having own critical thinking

it shall assumed
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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 07:52 PM)
watching youtube and read newspaper?

that assumption

that propaganda assumption

lel

negate u from having own critical thinking

it shall assumed
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How exactly the legacy of centuries of regression, fanaticism, radicalism and conservatism can be hailed as a role model for the world?

Previous muslim caliphates were far more liberal than the type ISIS is promoting.You honestly think the future of the muslim world should be built on violence and fanaticism?

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 07:57 PM)
How exactly the legacy of centuries of regression, fanaticism, radicalism and conservatism is exactly a role model?

Previous muslim caliphates were far more liberal than the type ISIS is promoting.
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u typed isis on google

u typed isis on youtube

there u go the most advance INFORMATION MASS internet is promoting

the type of ISIS

question is

why democracy is against communism?


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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 08:00 PM)
u typed isis on google

u typed isis on youtube

there u go the most advance INFORMATION MASS internet is promoting

the type of ISIS

question is

why democracy is against communism?
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What counter evidence do you offer in return to negate these reports? Nothing but your own wild speculations?

This post has been edited by Einjahr: Aug 21 2014, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 08:00 PM)
u typed isis on google

u typed isis on youtube

there u go the most advance INFORMATION MASS internet is promoting

the type of ISIS

question is

why democracy is against communism?
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If bloody CNN, bbc and world media is allegedly falsifying news reports on ISIS atrocities then why arent ISis members disputing them? Instead they create more videos and statements telling the world how proud they are committing an orgy of violence thru out the middle east.
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QUOTE(omaigad @ Aug 21 2014, 01:08 PM)
More than fresh grad salary here yooo
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wheres the money come from?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 08:08 PM)
If bloody CNN, bbc and world media is allegedly falsifying news reports on ISIS atrocities then why arent ISis members disputing them? Instead they create more videos and statements telling the world how proud they are committing an orgy of violence thru out the middle east.
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u may want to email that question to Bowe Bergdahl

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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 08:12 PM)
u may want to email that question to Bowe Bergdahl

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Al qaeda and taliban pun suda disown isis la.
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Al qaeda and taliban pun suda disown isis la.
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r u certain it is?

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/215...upport-for-isis

prolly it wasnt from CNN? BBC?

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 08:17 PM)
Al qaeda and taliban pun suda disown isis la.
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http://www.tolonews.com/en/afghanistan/155...egiance-to-isis

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CNN n BBC miss these reports

u still want to read them ah
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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 08:20 PM)
http://www.tolonews.com/en/afghanistan/155...egiance-to-isis

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CNN n BBC miss these reports

u still want to read them ah
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Read:Pakistani taliban even thats a splinter faction which has its own name
Anyways isis fighting everyone even other muslim separatist factiions

Sama nusra gaduh
Sama fsa gaduh
Sama hezbollah gaduh
Sama hamas pun gaduh

Semua dia mau telan

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QUOTE(Pusha_D @ Aug 21 2014, 08:19 PM)
r u certain it is?

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/215...upport-for-isis

prolly it wasnt from CNN? BBC?

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Just shows Al qaeda is splintering and now kowtow to a new master
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 08:27 PM)
Read:Pakistani taliban even thats a splinter faction which has its own name
Anyways isis fighting everyone even other muslim separatist factiions

Sama nusra gaduh
Sama fsa gaduh
Sama hezbollah gaduh
Sama hamas pun gaduh

Semua dia mau telan
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Even we umno n pas oso bergaduh

Both muslim oso bergaduh

Okay the question why democracy against communism?

fairy tale answers

But why China ban fb n google?

Another fairy tale answers again


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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Aug 21 2014, 08:30 PM)
Just shows Al qaeda is splintering and now kowtow to a new master
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Uve been brainwashed kid

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Uve been brainwashed kid

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youre not reading things carefully enough.

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holyshit. islamic caliphate has all bunch of democracy, socialism, capitalism, everything.
it keeps changing with time. they had caliphate nominating his successor, they had caliphate being nominated by polls, they had caliphate being succeeded by his sons. each one has it ups and downs. its really not the system, its the people in it.
islam IS capitalism with a mind for socialism.

stop being such a tinfoil-hatter.
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btw, please show some legible reporting of isis doing ANYTHING GOOD.
ANYTHING.
or atleast something that deny their blatant wrongdoing.

and by legible, i mean places with proper reputation for journalism.
not some tinfoil blogs or jokenews or plain propaganda sites.

btw, that news about pakistani taliban joining up with isis shows nothing but gangs drama, which doesnt really help much with their notoriety.

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isis pay once salary to soldierlater tomorrow kena boom by usa
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not worth
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QUOTE(manickam123 @ Aug 25 2014, 05:57 PM)
ur salary is RM2.5k?
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Yes, so high income right?
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Wow ! Wonder if they need a researcher?
Brb signing up as part timer

Imma reverse engineer vsv-ebov into a bioweapon

For heavens sake !

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quite good pay leh. got EPF SOSCO? in case perma disability during war
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