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gladfly
post Aug 15 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Taufiq91 @ Aug 15 2014, 04:48 PM)
I gave a 1 month notice.

And i didn't take any expensive courses/training.
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Haizzzz,

1. Compnay cannot force a person to work as it is against the concept of slavery.

2. However, if there is a notice period and you do not wish to comply, you can compensate in liue of the notice.

3. Same, if the agreement states that in the event you leave earlier you pay....you pay. Eg scholarship bond

4. Without the contract of employment, hard for us to advise you.

5. Company can also preemptive sue you if you contract contains non competitive clause and you are breaking that Clause.

TLDR .. need more info wat the Co is planning to take out against you
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post Aug 15 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(acexii @ Aug 15 2014, 04:48 PM)
Sued on what ground?

Not fulfill 2 years contract is it?
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Aiyo, cannot la...company cannot sue for the balance period since company had not suffered any loss. Pure economic loss cannot be pursued in Malaysia.
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post Aug 15 2014, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Aug 15 2014, 05:01 PM)
They can sue him. If the paper he signed mentioned that he's given a 2 year contract with a 6 months probation, he can't just simply cabut after 6 month probation because technically he did not fulfil his obligation to complete the 2 years contract.

In other word, he done fuk it up.
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You car expert ....but there is a legal flaw in your argument.

You see, even if I breach any contract, the remedy is for damages or specific performance that forces me to comply . In law, especially in contract of services, specific performance is a no-no because it equates the concept of slavery, i.e you force someone to work for you. Hence the remedy available is damages.

Now, even though I promise to work for 2 years, and I work only for 1 month, what did the company lose? 1 year and 11 months of my services right? How do one quantify that in $$? In fact, the company did not lose anything in terms of monetary loss. Company cannot claim for potential economic loss, i.e loss of profit generated by 1 staff as those amount to pure economic loss.

So, technically speaking, even if one doesn't complete a contact of service, subject to an agreement to compensate (hence see my no 3), the company cannot claim anything from the employee.
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post Aug 15 2014, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(stren89 @ Aug 15 2014, 05:04 PM)
Nope, under probabtionary period, the tie contract with company is not valid.

Unless TS has been confirmed from the start of his employment.
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Wow....you sure ka?

So in that case..the company can fire a probationer anytime since contract no valid? Fikir-fikir kan la
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post Aug 15 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(stren89 @ Aug 15 2014, 05:15 PM)
As a probationary staff you're also not given the same benefits of confirmed staffs so yeah with this disadvantage, your resignation does not hold much water or any tying contracts with the company.
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Stop!... if you don't really know the answer please don't muddle it. I know this is /k but please

I will just leave this here

In Khaliah binti Abbas vs Pesaka Capital Corporation Sdn Bhd, the Court of Appeal ruled that an employee on probation enjoys the same rights as a permanent or confirmed employee and he or she cannot be terminated without just cause or excuse.

You can google the case smile.gif
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post Aug 15 2014, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(RiddleMeThat @ Aug 15 2014, 05:24 PM)
Non-compete is not enforceable if it is unreasonably worded like you cannot get another job in the same field for x number of years.
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Ah finally a legitimate post from Riddle.

Yes, non compete has to harmonized with the prohibition of restrain of trade. Each Clause will be interpreted by the Court to see the reasonableness. You cannot be barred from making a living, but can be barred from joining in a same industry. Usually the restrain will be to join a competitor in certain area or radius for x amount of year. X has been decided to be in the range of 6 months-3years. Cannot be like 10 years or that since it will render it unreasonable.

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post Aug 15 2014, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(stren89 @ Aug 15 2014, 05:33 PM)
FAQ on Employment Law by ICPC
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/committee/i..._questions.html

Malaysian Labour Law : Regulation of Employment
http://my.jobsdb.com/MY/EN/V6HTML/JobSeeke...t/dispute_4.htm

PLWS
http://www.plws.gov.my/v1/index.php/en/mengenai-kami/jppm

How to Contact(Locate Your Nearest Industrial Affairs Ministry):
http://www.plws.gov.my/v1/index.php/en/hubungi-kami

The more complaints about your company the better as they'll shame your company to withdraw the lawsuit against you.

Mind mentioning the company's name here, TS?
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Lol....ICPC...I know some of the fellas who did that FAQ.

Name and shame? Waloa..later the company sue the TS for defamation lagi jia lat......
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post Aug 15 2014, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(tabletman @ Aug 15 2014, 05:50 PM)
The loss can be that the company has contract with other company in which it is counting on you to perform your job to fulfil that contract. A sudden resignation on your part could cause the company big issue as there is no one doing the job now while it is still bound by its own contract. There is real monetary loss involved.

But really, whether the company has the rights to sue is really depending on your own contract terms with the company. The lawsuit letter would have spelled it out. I haven't seen you have revealed its content yet so I doubt anyone can give you any specific and useful answer as everyone is merely guessing.
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I understand where you are coming from. However, unless you understand the concept of pure economic loss, I cannot explain it further.

TLDR, the loss must be within parties contemplation. Every loss there is a test, remoteness. If everything under the sky can be claim, say like if I bang someone on the way to job interview, am I to pay him for the "potential" gain of salary if he had successfully attended the interview? If so, the possibility is endless and leads to uncertainty in law.

Again, the loss must be real and cannot be some formulated loss based on what ifs? So if I resign from my post, what is the "real" loss to the company? Losses that were contemplated by parties.

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post Aug 15 2014, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Aug 15 2014, 06:01 PM)
you can argue till the cows fly home, but usually black and white contract wins.
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You have the late Karpal banner and yet doh.gif

Its the Judge's interpretation of the contact that wins...if you followed my explanation, I already said No 3. Above, if the agreement says compensation, pay up. The above scenario is on the premise where the contact doesn't have a compensation /LAD clause.

Cow can come home liao lo

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