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TStoothgnasher
post Aug 12 2014, 11:00 PM, updated 12y ago

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Adding Pools To Sims 4 Isn't Easy, Claims EA

http://kotaku.com/adding-pools-to-sims-4-i...s-ea-1619634727

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sims 1: this is hard!

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sims 2: take a look the amount of engineering and computation needed!

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sims 3: yep. can't do this on console or it will blow up.

The Sims 4 isn't going to launch with pools or toddlers, and people are pretty upset about that. But you know, toddlers are complicated. Makes sense that the developers might want to put that effort elsewhere. Pools, though? They're just water. How hard could it be?
I asked producer Graham Nardone why it's so tough to dig a ditch and fill it with water in The Sims 4's new engine, and he broke it down. The short answer? The game's engine, as is, simply isn't built to support things like digging into ground or Sims easily moving up and down within it.

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"It's easy to look at something and think, 'That looks pretty simple.' When you think about a feature like pools upfront, it looks like a square box on the ground and you put a shader on the top surface and have Sims jump in."
"But ultimately, it's more complexity in terms of what tech's there and what isn't there, what we have to build to support this. How do we cut down into the terrain, how do we get Sims going through portals across different levels of pools? There's so much that's going on in the background that you don't end up seeing just to have a Sim go swimming."

It's kind of wild that the engine doesn't easily allow developers to dig down into terrain or let Sims pass between different levels. Will pools get added in eventually, though? Based on all the Sim-trapped-in-pool-esque wailing and gnashing of teeth from fans, it seems pretty darn likely.
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"It's not a matter of it not being important to us or our focus not being in the right place. As we chat with fans and they continue to inform us of what they want, they're obviously interested in pools and toddlers. They want those in the game. So we'll continue to listen to feedback, something we've always done with The Sims."

That, however, brings us to the one million Simoleon question: would EA charge money for pools and/or toddlers if they decided to add them back in as part of a post-release update or expansion? On that point, Nardone was somewhat evasive:
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"I'd really just say look at what we've done in the past. We've had a variety of different ways we've delivered content to players, and I think we'll continue to support what they're looking for."
sounds like pool dlc coming right up
I further asked if the confirmed-but-not-really-explained Sims 4 Premium option might in any way be involved, but again Nardone declined to elaborate. "That's just not something we're really getting into yet," he said. "Right now we're focused on the base game. Once we're out on September 2nd, we'll start looking toward what's next."
So there you go. No pools for now, but they might (read: probably will) show up at some point in the future, and they may (or may not) cost money. Nardone skirted frustratingly close to offering a non-answer, but I guess now we've got a fraction of something to go on.
We'll see. I recently played The Sims 4 and had a lot of fun performing evil experiments on my hapless household, but then I developed a conscience and became a real boy. That was a good time, but it's impossible to deny that Sims 4 will—at least initially—lack a lot of features both big and small from previous Sims games.
Fingers crossed for a good experience despite the small army of possible red flags just over the hill. At this point all that's left is to wait and see. And tell EA what you want, of course. They may or may not listen, but it never hurts to ask.


*cough* *cough* Simcity 2013 straight answers
Simcity 2013 significant engineering needed
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:06 PM

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hmm, The Sims 4 will have realistic pool
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:09 PM

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Oh God this is way more embarrassing than ubisoft with their lame excuse regarding female assassins...
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:09 PM

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i lol at the sim 3 part...
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later release as paid DLC maaa
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:12 PM

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You'll be surprised to see the list of items being cut in TS4. Like, seriously. Suprised.

But yeah I'm still gonna buy it just because there are no other better alternative. Anyway, I appreciate the improvements towards Create a Sim though.

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post Aug 12 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(kae7 @ Aug 12 2014, 11:06 PM)
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hmm, The Sims 4 will have realistic pool
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sure thing bro. don't want to have things like this happen.

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post Aug 12 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(emino @ Aug 12 2014, 11:12 PM)
You'll be surprised to see the list of items being cut in TS4. Like, seriously. Suprised.

But yeah I'm still gonna buy it just because there are no other better alternative. Anyway, I appreciate the improvements towards Create a Sim though.

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suddenly remembered that I used to download your skins back in sims 2
they were nice
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Lelouch @ Aug 12 2014, 11:18 PM)
suddenly remembered that I used to download your skins back in sims 2
they were nice
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You mean the furry skins? HAHAHA
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(emino @ Aug 12 2014, 11:12 PM)
You'll be surprised to see the list of items being cut in TS4. Like, seriously. Suprised.

But yeah I'm still gonna buy it just because there are no other better alternative. Anyway, I appreciate the improvements towards Create a Sim though.

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meh. alternative or not, i pass it. just like how i pass simcity 2013. and didn't buy any EA since then.
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:27 PM

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post Aug 12 2014, 11:32 PM

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i wait valentine discount 50% then buy sims 4 .....like my Sim City 5

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post Aug 12 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(cofin @ Aug 12 2014, 11:32 PM)
i wait valentine discount 50% then buy sims 4 .....like my Sim City 5
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Did EA do cross-promo their titles?

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post Aug 12 2014, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Aug 12 2014, 11:27 PM)
EA is well known for their motto

1 step forward 4 steps backwards 3 steps into dlc 2 steps into milking
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sim 4's first dlc add baby n pregnant wimminz

sim 4's 2nd dlc add swimming pool
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(toothgnasher @ Aug 12 2014, 11:37 PM)
Did EA do cross-promo their titles?

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Dunno ...this year Valentine they gave 50% discount to your purchase of anything in EA Origin store. I only grab Sim City ......should had grab FIFA and Sim City
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Aug 12 2014, 11:39 PM)
sim 4's first dlc add baby n pregnant wimminz

sim 4's 2nd dlc add swimming pool
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:50 PM

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lost faith in maxis years ago

keep spewing bullshit
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(noobfc @ Aug 12 2014, 11:50 PM)
lost faith in maxis years ago

keep spewing bullshit
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post Aug 13 2014, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(toothgnasher @ Aug 12 2014, 11:54 PM)
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post Aug 13 2014, 12:42 AM

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lel, banyak alasan pla EA ni, claim itu , claim ini rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
just admit la you want milking it ~

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