Hey all!

I will put the debate to an end, once and for all!

I have a Senn CX300, bought from Jenssen (RM179). My colleague have bought the Creative EP-630 from the last PCFair (RM59).

We have performed the ultimate AB test! This is achieved by the following setup...

Creative ZVM => Logitech PlayGear Share => CX300 + EP-630 (at the same time!) playing my favorite AB audition song, Daniel Powter, Song 6.

First, I listened to EP-630 alone. Then, listened to BOTH left piece of CX300 and EP-630, at the same time. Then BOTH right pieces at the same time.

SQ Conclusion (using, of course, IMHO Gauge©!:

1. EP-630 => High = 8, Mid = 6, Low = 5
2. CX300 => High = 7, Mid = 8, Low = 8

The major difference is with the bass. EP-630 can barely power thru the long "thump!" in the song, which CX300 was perfect! (almost Grado SR60 perfect!)

To make the conclusion, conclusive (pun intended), I ran thru the test with 3 different person (plus the owner of the EP-630), and they all agreed with my conclusion.

Even the build quality is diff!

1. CX300 = Stiff cord, L jack, longer sleeve from earpiece, very soft silicon earpiece
2. EP-630 = Soft cord, straight jack, shorter sleeve, harder silicon

So there you have it folks! There is absolutely nothing equal with these two phones, and definately is not the same manufacturer as many people speculated. A lot of rumours saying that they are the same earphones, and only the driver is the same. I have proven that it is 100% not true, as it is physically different, and sounds different as well. I can even swear that the size of the earpiece is diff also!

That's all folks... No more debate on this issue anymore

Modified: Missing Mid rating for CX300, thanks ellimist!

This post has been edited by johnliew: Aug 25 2006, 01:50 PM

Well, the usual price is RM99, and PCFair promo price is RM59 to be exact But if you are earning UK$, 20 pound should be peanuts to you ...

Thanks guys! My bad again...

A lot of ppl are saying that, but if you are the phones closely, they are so physically different, that it's impossible to be from the same mould. The sizes are all out... (although very very little diff to the naked eye...) and the sleeves are diff as well... So, I guess still debatable fact that they came from same factory....

If I am not mistaken, MX300 and MX400 is identical twin (earpiece wise)....which is not the case with CX300 and EP-630.

Compare to Grado ar... Before I put up my imfamous IMHO Gauge©, I have to say that Grados are open full size headphones, so they are bound to be different. And CX300 are "jammed into your canal"-phones.

Grado Labs SR60 => Highs=7, Mids=9, Bass=9. Isolation=virtually none
Sennheiser CX300 => Highs=8, Mids=7, Bass=8. Isolation=8

Hope this will satisfy some souls out there (and hopefully not get bombarded too much later by Grado Fanboys alike...)

Yup! Mine have been using for 3 weeks, and his since the last PC Fair... that's 13 Aug.

I have been looking at the Foster web site => http://www.foster.co.jp/en_products/headphones/382326.html, and that's definately EP-630, NOT CX300. Compare the frequency response to http://www.creative.com/products/product.a...uct=11397&nav=1, which is identical.

So, conclusion, Foster 382326 = EP-630. But NOT CX300. I will go ahead and dispute the Wiki in Wikipedia

p/s: the Wiki says "Similar to the Creative EP630 and the Sharp MD33". Pls note the word Similiar, but not Identical... Call me an*l, but I believe the author choose his word carefully for a good reason...

This post has been edited by johnliew: Aug 25 2006, 05:20 PM

Can't comment on the Edifiers, and probably will not do AB, coz the purpose for me to do this extreme AB is because too many ppl asked this EP-630/CX300 question, and I want to address it onces and for all

So, when the next time I drop by Edifier@Low Yat, will definately drop by and try them out. Will post in another thread

Where got where got? I still think that SR60 is the most balanced phones that I ever heard la. Soundstage wise, I think many would agree that SR60 virtually have none, unless you consider "smack-right-in-your-face" is a soundstage

CX300 lagi don't need to say la... all Canalphones don't have any detectable soundstage characteristics...

Overall, purely SQ wise, I still think SR60 more balanced than CX300. But there are so close that I can live with both signatures... (unlike my default EP-480....yuck.)

....and that is exactly the reason that I got the CX300! and the fact that ppl around me don't appreciate me "sharing" my choice of music...

Dude, er....technically Etys and Shures are IEMs, more than Canalphone ler... IMHO anyway.

Seriously, that's why I started this thread. I have already sonically proven that CX300 are not using the same drivers as EP-630... certified by 4 pair of (music lover's) ears. Don't force me to crack them up to show u that the drivers are not the same...

I know I know.... No need to remind me liao

Thanks! Just trying my best to fulfill my own curiosity

Anyway, I didn't say that the EP-630 is a bad product, I am just saying it is a technologically different unit from CX300. If you ask me, EP-630 @ RM59 is an fantastic price for a Canalphone, considering that the quality is not that bad! (ok ok ya'all, time to insert KSC-75 comments here )

For Creative EP-630, during PCFair, the listed usual price=RM99, promo price then was RM59. Listed distributors are:

C2O Corporation 03 2287 8736
Micro-D 03 7880 6888
Servex Malaysia 03 80246688

I also saw it on the Bulk Section. Check it out!

But dude, seriously, if you want real punchy bass, get the Senn CX300 ler.