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 Sennheiser CX300 is definately NOT Creative EP-630, ~Sound/Build/Feel Wise~

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post Aug 25 2006, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(johnliew @ Aug 25 2006, 09:46 AM)
Hey all!

I will put the debate to an end, once and for all!

I have a Senn CX300, bought from Jenssen (RM179). My colleague have bought the Creative EP-630 from the last PCFair (RM59).

We have performed the ultimate AB test! This is achieved by the following setup...

Creative ZVM => Logitech PlayGear Share => CX300 + EP-630 (at the same time!) playing my favorite AB audition song, Daniel Powter, Song 6.

First, I listened to EP-630 alone. Then, listened to BOTH left piece of CX300 and EP-630, at the same time. Then BOTH right pieces at the same time.

SQ Conclusion:

1. EP-630 => High = 8, Mid = 6, Low = 5
2. CX300 => High = 7, Mid = , Low = 8

The major difference is with the bass. EP-630 can barely power thru the long "thump!" in the song, which CX300 was perfect! (almost Grado SR60 perfect!)

To make the conclusion, conclusive (pun intended), I ran thru the test with 3 different person (plus the owner of the EP-630), and they all agreed with my conclusion.

Even the build quality is diff!

1. CX300 = Stiff cord, L jack, longer sleeve from earpiece, very soft silicon earpiece
2. EP-630 = Soft cord, straight jack, shorter sleeve, harder silicon

So there you have it folks! There is absolutely nothing equal with these two phones, and definately is not the same manufacturer as many people speculated. A lot of rumours saying that they are the same earphones, and only the driver is the same. I have proven that it is 100% not true, as it is physically different, and sounds different as well. I can even swear that the size of the earpiece is diff also!

That's all folks... No more debate on this issue anymore smile.gif
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Massive effort John - you're the man rclxms.gif

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post Aug 28 2006, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE([Top-Gun] @ Aug 26 2006, 02:33 PM)
I digress, there is soundstage with canal phones, u just have to imagine it..
It's like you're encapsuled within a small sphere at about half arm's length.
Those are a different kind of soundstage, yes i can feel soundstage with my ER4Ps.

Anyway, nice review but I myself belive that the Sharp/Senn/Creative are all using the same drivers, but housing material and cabling material are different, that's all.

Why not buy an already succesful driver where u have to research and develop your own? and what if it turns out to be a flop?

My point of view is that this is a marketing strategy from Sennheiser, I think they want to test out the market's availability and demand for THEIR IEMs/canalbuds before venturing into their own R&D and designing their own IEMs.

Let's wait and see!
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Totally agreed, Soundstage on earbuds will become quite apparent if you concentrate on listening. Even with Panasonic HJE50 and Sony MDR-ED21LP, some sort of close quartered soundstage will linger around your head, but it's more like left and right kind of experience - a good source will definitely improve soundstage too - specially if amped.

My 2 cents

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post Aug 28 2006, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(despair89 @ Aug 28 2006, 04:44 PM)
Wow, nice review.. and opinions from john..

Urm, I digress a bit.. since the EP-630 is similarly priced with Koss' Plugs, how does the 2 compare (in terms of sound quality)?

Since I've heard in the "Recommend a... Earphone" subforum that the Koss Plugs' quality is equivalent, if not better than RM1xx earphones.. how true is that?
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Put your money in EP630. I have listened to both. EP630 is superb in handling bass, bass extension and bass sweeps. KOSS the Plug - well it's like having a Subwoofer in your head - MASSIVE BASS but it can be overwhelming and because bass is so strong the rest of the sound spectrum specially the mids sounded muddy. EP630 can balance both treble and bass nicely. One of the best sub RM100 money can buy.

On the other hand usually those high end canalphones are not bass heavy - they are focused more on overall clarity and balance. Just ask anybody who have tried EP630 and Etymotics ER6i - they will tell you the truth.
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post Aug 29 2006, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(despair89 @ Aug 28 2006, 09:09 PM)
Hmmm...

Seeing how Im a basshead and also considering my source which has quite low bass output (Nokia 3250) (or maybe it's the Nokia HS-20 headset problem, it sucks serious ass) would the Koss be the better choice over EP?

Btw, to digress a bit, where can I find the EP630 for sale in Malaysia, and what is the retail price >_<?

edit: tried to look for it in the "where to buy what" post.. don't have  cry.gif
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There's a a lot of type for basshead. Some prefer tight and punchy, some like it rumbling and extended and some just simply like it loud. Just like John said if you are looking for quality tight and punchy bass go for CX300, if you like powerful bass attack it has to be EP630. If you simply just want it powerful and loud (not caring much about the rest of sound quality) KOSS the Plug is the answers.

But if you consider yourself a pro basshead, it will have to be a RM390 AKG K81DJ......LOL!


 

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