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Household EcoMajestic @ Semenyih (VERSION 5), Herald of a New Era by EcoWorld
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enochtan3668
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Aug 13 2014, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(badboy7 @ Aug 13 2014, 11:31 AM) already check by DMC..also same with you..none was initial except last page.. wonder why  I also didnt notice and didnt check. Anyway if they changed it I wouldnt know also because when I signed it there was no time to read and legal clerk didnt bother to explain also until I asked and he just highlighted a few major points.
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samkps
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Aug 13 2014, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 13 2014, 11:38 AM) Sankor good wor... you can claim you know nuts about the restrictions as you have never initialled on the DMC. So you can freely run a religious centre, daycare centre, animal shelters etc  hahaha... I think EW will send their many "regards" to me if I really want to do so.
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samkps
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Aug 13 2014, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(enochtan3668 @ Aug 13 2014, 02:03 PM) I also didnt notice and didnt check. Anyway if they changed it I wouldnt know also because when I signed it there was no time to read and legal clerk didnt bother to explain also until I asked and he just highlighted a few major points.  ... Same like me... I called my lawyer just now, and they said that day I only initial those documents only woh.. DMC and Schedule H I didn't initial... What to do, no proof loh... How to argue with the lawyer if there already said so?
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Jasoncat
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Aug 13 2014, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 13 2014, 02:11 PM) How could they say that. If that's the case, it's the negligence on their part for not ensuring the pages are initialled. This post has been edited by Jasoncat: Aug 13 2014, 03:30 PM
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badboy7
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Aug 13 2014, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 13 2014, 02:11 PM) In that case, nothing much to do leh...  my lawyer also said like that..but i really can't recalled which page i initialed..myb tenderloin buyer can help us..they just sign their s&p and dmc
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samkps
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Aug 13 2014, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(badboy7 @ Aug 13 2014, 03:28 PM) In that case, nothing much to do leh...  my lawyer also said like that..but i really can't recalled which page i initialed..myb tenderloin buyer can help us..they just sign their s&p and dmc  I am quite sure they have done some changes. But I have looked into SPA and DMC, so far didn't found anything very unreasonable. Perhaps Tenderfield buyers should beware of this.
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samkps
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Aug 13 2014, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 13 2014, 03:27 PM) How could they say that. If that's the case, it's the negligence on their part for not ensuring the pages are initialled. If I no initialled, then means that part is not valid? Can the document be stamped in such a way? Is it any problem if not all pages are initialled?
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cheryee
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Aug 13 2014, 03:51 PM
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AIYOH!!!!!! You guys no need to be so gan jiong about the initialing la! No big deal ok! SCH H SPA is a STANDARD SPA under the HDA ... developer cannot suka2 go change ANYTHING ok! As for DMC, it is not a STANDARD doc, hence it varies from 1 project to another.
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Jasoncat
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Aug 13 2014, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 13 2014, 03:31 PM) If I no initialled, then means that part is not valid? Can the document be stamped in such a way? Is it any problem if not all pages are initialled?  TKJ is here already. Let the expert enlighten us
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samkps
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Aug 13 2014, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 13 2014, 03:56 PM) TKJ is here already. Let the expert enlighten us  TKJ is TKJ, come out say some words only we all understand...
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cheryee
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Aug 13 2014, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 13 2014, 03:56 PM) TKJ is here already. Let the expert enlighten us  QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 13 2014, 03:58 PM) TKJ is TKJ, come out say some words only we all understand...  The main purpose and intent for initialing = u have read, understood and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of the agreement that you are entering into, be it the SPA or the DMC. But having said that, as long as your signature/thumb print is set/affixed on the signing page of the agreement in the presence of an Advocate & Solicitor or any other person of such authority, YOUR AGREEMENT WILL NEVER BE VOID EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO INITIALING ON ANY OF THE PAGE IN THE AGREEMENT.
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bearbearwong
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Aug 13 2014, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Aug 13 2014, 05:11 PM) The main purpose and intent for initialing = u have read, understood and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of the agreement that you are entering into, be it the SPA or the DMC. But having said that, as long as your signature/thumb print is set/affixed on the signing page of the agreement in the presence of an Advocate & Solicitor or any other person of such authority, YOUR AGREEMENT WILL NEVER BE VOID EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO INITIALING ON ANY OF THE PAGE IN THE AGREEMENT. look at that... good, anything wrong sue the law firm ya not the lawyer attesting..
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robert82
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Aug 13 2014, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Aug 13 2014, 05:11 PM) The main purpose and intent for initialing = u have read, understood and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of the agreement that you are entering into, be it the SPA or the DMC. But having said that, as long as your signature/thumb print is set/affixed on the signing page of the agreement in the presence of an Advocate & Solicitor or any other person of such authority, YOUR AGREEMENT WILL NEVER BE VOID EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO INITIALING ON ANY OF THE PAGE IN THE AGREEMENT. so why are we so stupid to initial all pages? when in fact it is not necessary...
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badboy7
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Aug 13 2014, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Aug 13 2014, 05:11 PM) The main purpose and intent for initialing = u have read, understood and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of the agreement that you are entering into, be it the SPA or the DMC. But having said that, as long as your signature/thumb print is set/affixed on the signing page of the agreement in the presence of an Advocate & Solicitor or any other person of such authority, YOUR AGREEMENT WILL NEVER BE VOID EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO INITIALING ON ANY OF THE PAGE IN THE AGREEMENT. so if the page is not initial by us, we can say that we did not read and agreed?  in our case, we think we initial every page during SPA but received without initial..just curious to know only where that copy go This post has been edited by badboy7: Aug 13 2014, 05:38 PM
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Jasoncat
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Aug 13 2014, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Aug 13 2014, 05:11 PM) The main purpose and intent for initialing = u have read, understood and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of the agreement that you are entering into, be it the SPA or the DMC. But having said that, as long as your signature/thumb print is set/affixed on the signing page of the agreement in the presence of an Advocate & Solicitor or any other person of such authority, YOUR AGREEMENT WILL NEVER BE VOID EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO INITIALING ON ANY OF THE PAGE IN THE AGREEMENT. TKJ, noted about the points above but the issue here is how could they replace the initialled copy of the DMC with one that is without initial?
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bearbearwong
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Aug 13 2014, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(badboy7 @ Aug 13 2014, 05:37 PM) so if the page is not initial by us, we can say that we did not read and agreed?  in our case, we think we initial every page during SPA but received without initial..just curious to know only where that copy go  if subsales and bank loans they will require.. incase you dispute in future you dunnop the T&C.. if you dont sign in subsales case (very rare ones but possible) they might change the contents of the S&P, like a page to page.. alter some terms like VP and etc.. developers normally nope, may at most change some percentage of LAD clause, but SP setia wont gua..
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cheryee
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Aug 14 2014, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Aug 13 2014, 05:31 PM) look at that... good, anything wrong sue the law firm ya not the lawyer attesting.. BBW junior, Obviously lo! U can leave the firm at anytime but the legal liability remains intact with the firm ma
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cheryee
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Aug 14 2014, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(robert82 @ Aug 13 2014, 05:31 PM) so why are we so stupid to initial all pages? when in fact it is not necessary... This is to eliminate any possibility of dispute between the purchaser and the developer lo
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cheryee
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Aug 14 2014, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(badboy7 @ Aug 13 2014, 05:37 PM) so if the page is not initial by us, we can say that we did not read and agreed?  in our case, we think we initial every page during SPA but received without initial..just curious to know only where that copy go  QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 13 2014, 06:19 PM) TKJ, noted about the points above but the issue here is how could they replace the initialled copy of the DMC with one that is without initial? For both of your queries, it is best that you guys check with your SPA solicitors as I really have no idea why the initialed pages have been replaced
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samkps
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Aug 14 2014, 05:29 PM
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