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post Aug 11 2014, 03:24 PM, updated 12y ago

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I have a brand new idea to open play station café. It will be like cyber café but instead get to play play station and stuff like that. My question is that I would like if anyone who have experience open cyber café or similar to share their exp? Like are there any obstacles or is it just like other normal businesss just register and open?
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post Aug 11 2014, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(dewill @ Aug 11 2014, 03:31 PM)
those dream is old
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I will make it work. I just need some insight into starting the business so can overcome hurdle easier.


QUOTE(iamme97 @ Aug 11 2014, 03:35 PM)
Cyber cafe lately many xlaku nemore, playstation cafe seems like a good idea. but just like pcs, bfore this gaming pcs arent so common thats why people go to CCs. Now a lot of ccs have been closed down already.
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Ya I also got think like that. A lot ppl got PC but dun haf console. Sure hook 1. But is it easy to open? Just like normal business license register rm60 my name then open shop?
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post Aug 11 2014, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(iamme97 @ Aug 11 2014, 03:58 PM)
I dont know about the whole registering thing. But should think of how many consoles you need and for every console you have, you need the games which would cost you Rm180 or so each and not to mention for every console as well. and thats only for 1 game per console. Imagine how many games you would have to buy. 1 new game comes out, thousands melayang already.
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I just plan buy 1 game and use for many console. Or get 2nd hand also shud b cheaper


QUOTE(iamme97 @ Aug 11 2014, 04:01 PM)
Unless you open a cc with 5 ps4s or so and a freaking cool cafe that would be a great idea. 3 in 1 bro. wink.gif
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Ya im working on the cool café idea. Need feedback from serious gamers. Then need carry out my survey
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post Aug 11 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(seiluen @ Aug 11 2014, 04:29 PM)
how much u gonna charge per hour to sustain your profit?
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haven't think yet as it will depend on the cost of the whole set up. I think maybe rm5 will be reasonable if the cost is not that high.
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post Aug 11 2014, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(seiluen @ Aug 11 2014, 04:57 PM)
you going for PS3 or PS4 cafe ?
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Not sure yet but probably going for PS4 as PS3 is old generation liao so probably would phase out in 1 year or 2.


QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Aug 11 2014, 04:58 PM)
My personal suggestion to you would be to open up a cyber cafe with Playstations consoles in it. by doing so, you would be able to attract more PC gamers to switch to console gaming even easier.

You could then further develop your business by coming out with a membership card in which customers would be able to collect points and then redeem them for a elected free gaming time of lets say 1 hour or so after spending a given amount.

Games wouldn't be that expensive as you could always source for sellers especially from lowyat.net under the console couch section as their prices are pretty decent.
And since you're planning on opening up a cafe, do ensure that the prices are really affordable and that you start serving various fast food meals such as burgers, carbonated drinks and snacks as i believe that it would be the most appropriate selection of foods for your given target market.
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Thnx rclxms.gif very good suggestion thumbup.gif Just like what I was thinking but wif some extra smile.gif

QUOTE(dewill @ Aug 11 2014, 05:00 PM)
build your cafe more like japan or taiwan cc hub.
malaysia too cheapskate where we sit side by side without privacy on our game play.
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I never been to Taiwan. What is it like in japan or Taiwan cc hub?
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post Aug 12 2014, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 11 2014, 05:45 PM)
Wud location u plan to open. Important for your business on going.

As usual, good location, rental dam expensive.
bad location, I dunno wad to say
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Open in Penang is it ok? I know KL sure will haf bigger and more profitable market but Im based Penang.


QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Aug 11 2014, 06:09 PM)
First, you need a cyber cafe license.

i don't think they are gonna issue it anymore for KL. Not sure about other states.
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means now cannot open cyber café anymore? If register as entertainment (pusat hiburan) business ok?
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post Aug 12 2014, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 11 2014, 06:37 PM)
This is going to be hard because everyone wants to play the popular games. Anyway how are you going to get a license for it? if it doesn't have PCs you can't call it a cybercafe.
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Ya I heard that license difficult to get but I dun understand why. Isnt it just like other normal business just register? Why is it moe difficult to get license for playstation café? Just as entertainment outlet cant?



QUOTE(Jordy @ Aug 11 2014, 07:39 PM)
Playstation cafe has been done. I was a previous owner of a cybercafe (back in year 2006) and there were already a few cybercafes with playstations then. By the time I wanted to incorporate the idea with my cybercafe, the market for it cooled down.

It is not a sustainable business due to the high maintenance cost. Playstation isn't like computers, they are not made to withstand long hours of daily activity. Virus infections on playstation isn't common, but it could happen especially if your firewall is weak.
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Hope can share your experience here since u r veteran. Playstation got high maintenance? Cos not like computer that always need upgrade I only need to buy once until new platform comes 5 or 6 years later.


QUOTE(-ZeN- @ Aug 11 2014, 08:55 PM)
I just point out a few things:

Cybercafe license? - Might still needs it, since is entertainment gaming area, which I dont think they are issuing anymore at other states and so on also. Rarely.

Games - Well, you sure NEED original, and you can just buy 1 disc and use for all console. Even if you buy digital, your account with the game can only be accessible by what? 2 concurrent connection? And the game can only be play 1 account at a time. (Talking bout PS4, X1 is worst i guess)

Hardware/Software - Not build to be 24 hours, and also 1 more thing is.... how do you let the player save their own progress? By user? So each PS4, every time they need to add their user to whichever PS4 they get? Then they need ps+ subscription for the save games progress uploads?
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Ya I also got consider before. Obstacle could be when want to connect internet play. In that case, internet play can only play by 1 machine while others play offline wif frens shud b ok right? 2 player mode just like arcade. If an online version game really popular then I can just buy another copy.

The save game also I got think. I will rent memory card to the players. So let say if they want save game, I will sell them the memory card rm100 but can be refundable anytime. So maybe 1 week later they 1 quit plau liao can just return me and I return them the rm100.

I think the hardware wont so fragile kua cos some hardcore gamers especially kids at home play very long hours also. My café will open at most 12 hrs so got 12 hrs rest.

Wat u guys think?
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post Aug 12 2014, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 12 2014, 08:48 AM)
It's technically gambling, or so they say it is anyway smile.gif
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wtf? how to link playstation to gambling lol. If like dat anything can be gambling la lol.

How about u think I can register as restoran/café business then offer some small food then say playstation as café specialty?
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post Aug 12 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 12 2014, 09:00 AM)
definitely you need pusat hiburan license.
which is quite hard to get and you need to pay undertable money to who authorize it.

why not incorporate to kbox?
girls come they can sing
boys come they can play

since the license is same anyway.

but arent you said you want to quit thinking bout business?
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I think just give it a shot la. As long as I can control myself so not like gambling all and addicted shud b ok. If know lost then shud know how to stop than to borrow money or wat.

If apply kbox still need same license and difficult get right? I wonder why so difficult. Is it like they very limited to give and not really encourage? Or a lot of rules need to conform to?



QUOTE(marcus_bread @ Aug 12 2014, 09:01 AM)
first thing come to my mind is... huge capital (PS console, monitor which is usually big in screen size, n also those games) plus the earning yield is very low %. how u gonna charge for the price per hour? assuming CC is charging RM2/hr if u charging anything more than that i believe ppl wil go after CC instead of PS.
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I think of charge like rm5. CC and PS is different thing. Cos the games play is different so offer different experience. Depend on the set up cost la. I can source for cheao big screen tv cos tv nowadays is cheap if dont include the special feature like smart tv and internet tv all. Just basic big screen tv shud able get around rm1k.

Console cost about 1k then games lo. Earning yield I also need to calculate see if feasible or not. But at the moment im doing the business plan first only can calculate all those.

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QUOTE(-ZeN- @ Aug 12 2014, 11:43 AM)
Do you have PS4?

Cause PS4 doesnt use memory card anymore, i think is pendrive format already.
Which bring up another thing is, you cant control the user to access the backend.
Just simply "reformat" your whole PS4 to factory default -> Yeay~!!

And i just thinking, cause i notice some digital games, sometime license lock, and you need to be online to verify the license. So i think even if you login the master account with all the games inside to all PS4, it will not allow i guess concurrently so many acc.
Also, sub account to play the main account game, might not be able to due to license verification? Just thinking.

Hardware, erm quite fragile, cause the controller as for me not much of hardcore gaming, already got wear and tear on the rubber. For the main console wise, if your power line is not so stable, will have the Optical Disk drive issue.
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Good input there. I have not bought ps4 yet. I din know can't use memory card anymore. If use pen drive then it will be cheaper lo. Cos pendrive is cheap. I dun think. Ppl so naughty 1 to format my ps la haha.

If like u say then I might need buy original. What if I offer 1 ps4 and another Xbox? Then have variety will more attractive?
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QUOTE(chrommed @ Aug 12 2014, 01:34 PM)
console alone wont be profitable. sell toys, dvd, and foods also. make it a console cafe, not a cyber cafe with console. you still get income from consoles, but it will not be your main income. take a look at petronas or other petrol station for example, lots of people come to fill up gas, but they will also buy foods from there. I go there for my banking need usually.
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If I term it console café does the license I need can belong to café category? icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 13 2014, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(seiluen @ Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM)
by just provide one xbox and one ps4 will not be attractive at all bro. take this into consideration

assume that u put 5 unit PS4 and 3 unit Xbox . console+ tv is not expensive afterall.. the costing part is the games. if u have 5 PS4..u need to prepare same copy of game at least 3 pcs? for example fifa,PES,WWE etc...or you are expecting everyone will playing different games. you need to have at least 30-40 title..then at least customer will feel that you have 'alot choices'
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I think no need provide all games la. Probably the few famous ones and those that can play fast or online play. What game is popular?


QUOTE(-ZeN- @ Aug 12 2014, 07:57 PM)
Also i keep thinking about the timing issue.
You set fix time? then how about people waiting then that guy who playing half way cant save yet due to no checkpoint?

Like seiluen says, really need to install on all console, if it is DISC 1 then worst, surely each console need to install, if all at once play same game la i mean.
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Like I mention above maybe just provide fast games like street fighter and football? Cos like long long games such as Final fantasy usually ppl dun have the stim to play at public places long games.


QUOTE(Ahquek89 @ Aug 13 2014, 01:00 AM)
Try to target malays customer. Don't invest too much in the business.
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Y malay?
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 13 2014, 08:55 AM)
my best suggestion for u instead of opening consoles station how about u open a gameshop...at the gameshop u still can put ur idea to give people to play the games and charges them but u dun need to have any entertainment licence for it...just put the consoles u let the people to play with as a demo...even its a demo u still can charge hourly...if u only put less than 5 consoles to operate i dun see it will be a problem....
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Good idea thumbup.gif

But honestly im not much of a gamer to have the knowledge and interest to open a game shop. I mean if open game shop sure need knowledge on ps3, xbox, wii, etc etc. No knowledge and passion open sure fail haha
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QUOTE(IrVine1987 @ Aug 13 2014, 09:01 AM)
back to 90s, the shop let ppl rent sega... u doing something running backward ?
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Rent sega? I never heard this shop b4. Is it rent the whole console take home? Then ppl not return how? haha


QUOTE(MoMoTear @ Aug 13 2014, 09:03 AM)
Console gaming is different from PC gaming. Mostly console people will play RPG game that need to be save for several check points and consume a lot of time to play it. Console gamers will prefer to have their own console to play at home because more comfortable, if open playstation cafe would attract those who play sports game like PES,fifa,NBA or some fighting game to try out the console before they buy it.
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Ya I also think like u. Ppl who play rpg and all will want to play their own swet time at home at late night. So more popular title can provide in shop is those quick games where can challenge fren for fun only. Probably some FPS online game also ok cos connect to PSN.


QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 13 2014, 09:09 AM)
u think many people open a gameshop because there are gamers? no la...because it is profitable...just to think of it, u can sell original games / hmm hmm games for modified xbox like X360 and PS3...u also can sell consoles, toys, accessories and anything that is suitable for a game shop...
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Ya I understand. But I mean my knowledge in console gaming not that much like wat u mention the accessories, tricks to handle the console and others. When customer ask some question they have problem I cannot answer time malu la.. and they will think this shop suck and go others
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QUOTE(IrVine1987 @ Aug 13 2014, 09:43 AM)
nope, play in the shop, cafe i guess, sometime can request maggi, same like cyber cafe.

if u really wan to do this, the original game will kill u.

and nowadays console quite cheap, just the game kinda expensive, but still affortable.

how much u going to charge them for 1 hour ?

some cafe let them play for free. so what is ur attractive point of selling ?
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Got café give play free? Where? My attractive point is play station lo cos not much café offer this kind of experience.


QUOTE(GKilla @ Aug 13 2014, 09:45 AM)
i believe there's something like this in Singapore. Called Touch Cookie gaming Cafe which has been around for a few years.

https://www.facebook.com/gamingcafe

I only know this because I follow Xian (Evolution 2013 champion for Super SF4 who plays Gen) and the Street Fighter 4 scene there. They usually organize tournaments and attract a good crowd.

Nice concept but not sure if their business can sustain.
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Cant understand much from the facebook. Is it like cyber café but have console?
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QUOTE(zecks @ Aug 18 2014, 01:18 PM)
yesterday at first avenue the playstation cafe nt really a lot ppl also. u still dare open ar
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yesterday? I never heard about it. Can give more detail? How is the café like?
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QUOTE(zecks @ Aug 18 2014, 01:18 PM)
yesterday at first avenue the playstation cafe nt really a lot ppl also. u still dare open ar
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wat the name of café? I will check out. Thnx for info notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(zecks @ Aug 18 2014, 01:24 PM)
cinema floor... i forgot wat name le.. smalll place.. besides the arcade there
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Ok thnx. Ill check it out. Im sure I can make better than them after look at what mistake they made or service they lack.

How about play for free? Hows that sound? tongue.gif

U interested when I launch?
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QUOTE(zecks @ Aug 18 2014, 01:39 PM)
o_O u give f2p(free to play) for playstation cafe ?
depends on games ba..
i dun play bf/fifa/
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then wat games u play? single player games? wat game u wanna play then I provide lo. Cos its u who play not me rite
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QUOTE(zecks @ Aug 18 2014, 02:08 PM)
rpg-ish like ff maybe?.. i think most ppl go for re, bf, cod type smile.gif
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