Ahhhh, as usual the Ferrari zealots are posting spams in the McLaren fan thread. Great

I think the otherwise would be true, since Alonso will be in McLaren next year Anyway, I wonder if Kimi will really join Ferrari next year. The only website that I've read that indicates this is f1racing.net. I guess its now like 90% chance that he's going Ferrari huh?

I watched the qualifying session too. Im very much sure that alonso's far enough to leave enough room for massa, well at least thats what the camera shows. But during that moment, i got this feeling that ferrari's gonna whine at FIA to get alonso some sort of penalty, and hey, my guess is 100% correct. Conclusion? Ferrari and FIA stewards slept in the same bed

Btw, verx, those are clearly not a moron, just a very obvious anti-alonso/ferrari zealot Anyway, like wat linkin said, the result of this year's WDC is pretty much SCRIPTED, with all the controversy kicking in during these decisive moments

Hey, how come this thread is still so quiet? Last post since was on 14th Feb. More than 3 weeks of idle time OMG, takkan suddenly all kaki McLaren jumped to other bandwagon? Wishing all the best to Alonso and Hamilton in Aus opening Hope both of them will be on podium (if Hamilton really made it to the podium on debut, I'll be dead impressed )

Good result for today Lewis got to the podium on debut. Hope he can maintain that. For some reason, I think the MP4-22 still lacks the pace compared to ferrari. Or was it just plainly due to wrong strategy? I mean Alonso was heavier on fuel, so I can give them the benefit of doubt that this is the reason why they couldnt challenge Kimi. But then again, when their car got lighter it still couldnt match the ferrari's pace. The gap was consistent between the ferrari and the mclaren. Im not sure if both cars have the same kind of pace or was it Raikkonen not pushing anymore when the gap is already at 15-17sec? Btw, I think Alonso is a skillful driver. I mean he managed to match Lewis' (who was on soft tyres) pace using hard tyres. When he's on soft tyres, Lewis just couldnt keep up with him anymore.

2-3 finish for today is more of a luck. Imagine if Massa didnt had that breakdown, maybe McLaren would end up in a 3-4 instead. I definitely hope the car would develop they way they did in 2005, from a so-so car to a really competitive/dominant one over time, minus the frequent breakdowns of 2005 of course

I hope you're right on this one. But there's something to ponder about. During qualifying, Kimi was 0.4sec faster than Alonso. Considering both burned the same amount of fuel, the difference of fuel load between the 2 cars is like 3 laps. Is 3 laps of fuel worth 4/10 of a sec? If yes, maybe both cars have a similar pace.

Anyway, now looking forward to Malaysian GP. Hopefully McLaren can get the first win of the season there

Just ignore those Ferrari fanboys. Looking at their thread, you can clearly see that most of them have the mentality of a 7 year old (most of them hoping for easy win by hoping/praying/cursing that the mp4-22 will break down, and a few even hope the alonso will crash and burn to death). Wait, that certainly isnt what a 7 year old would think of, its something that only comes out from minds of people who lost their sanity. Cursing ppl to crash and burn is simply

Anyway, good to see Hamilton leading the pack in practise 1. Hopefully he can maintain that throughout the weekend Go McLaren!

If alonso's really on heavy fuel load, he's gotta have really good acc to take on kimi at the start. But looking back at French GP, ferrari seems to have improved their acc alot. Kimi easily flew pass Hamilton at the start . Besides, they've always claimed that they had bad starts, and they're concentrating on improving it. So I doubt Alonso will pass them so easily especially with heavier load

Anyway, good to see Hamilton on pole. Hopefully he can have a better start compared to last GP

Dude. Let's not make some anti-Hamilton remarks here ok? This is a McLaren thread after all. Which ever of the two drivers win will also benefit the team as a whole. With the Ferrari charging up the WDC, I rather see Lewis taking more points to minimize the possibility of the team losing this season's crown. If you wanna post anti-Hamilton remarks, open your own Alonso-worship thread

Everytime you post some remarks on McLaren drivers, I really LOL'ed hard. It's very clear that you will post some sort of stuff to condemn whoever on earth that poses a championship threat to your beloved Raikkonen. You HATED Alonso, for beating Raikkonen and now Hamilton too? So you said you HATED Alonso because he's arrogant. May I know what's the reason you hate Hamilton now? Arrogance again? I dont see how arrogant this chap is. Or simply because he's leading the championship standing while Raikkonen isnt? Gosh even Massa wasnt spared by you in the early season when Massa held some advantage over Raikkonen. Now that Massa is being lead by Raikkonen, I could really see you posting less anti-Massa remarks.

You really should learn to HATE less. It's just a sport for you to enjoy watching. If it creates that much of hate in you, I'd suggest you to stop watching altogether. Besides, what do you get when any of "your" drivers win? Share their prize? Heck, they dont even know you've ever existed For me, if my fav driver/team wins, I'll be happy for a few minutes and probably post some congrats posts here. If they lose? Big deal, its not like I've lost something. No point getting upset.

Just chill man, when your favourite guy loses, you dont have to go "OMG THAT WINNER SHOULD CRASH/BLOW-UP/_____ (fill in the blanks here) BECAUSE HE BEAT MY FAV DRIVER!!!" or go "OMG WE ROCK, EVERYONE ELSE SUCK!" when your guy wins.

This post has been edited by sleepy: Jul 11 2007, 01:17 AM

Dude, you take this F1 thingy too seriously man. Chill out and enjoy it instead Peace

Dude, the right-side part of your sig really makes me LOL Btw, I think its quite likely that the McLaren will be charged. Hey, how many times when Ferrari whine about a rival, and that rival get to go away?

From your statement above, I have to salute you. You have definitely proven to this world you're the type who supports whoever wins . I bet if ferrari is in toyota's position now, and vice versa, you'll remove your "prancing horse" avatar, and put on a toyota one instead, because in your mind "its real "pathetic" to become ferrari fan,as they normally finish outside top10" You are da man babeh

Dont blame them. You should notice that most younger generation is heavily influenced by ferrari particularly schumi because when they first watch F1, they were bombarded with a streak of schumi/ferrari wins

Fact is we never made bad wishes to ferrari when they were caught with their pants down. Flexing bodyworks, tyre covers and not forgetting ferrari/schumi controversies over the years. Before the FIA come up with punishments for ferraris, we didnt talk trash like wishing that they got banned etc etc. Anyway, you really dont have to defend those in the ferrari thread It's clear enough what type of mentality most of them have Especially with those name-calling things that only 7 year olds would do Peace

Well, I would say if a faster car hit a slower one, its very likely that the slow one is at fault. Well, at least from what i saw over the years, this type of accident is usually caused by the slower one refusing to let the faster one through. So yes, if that case happen, I will say Hamilton is at fault especially if the speed difference is VERY SIGNIFICANT. I dont give stupid biased judgement ok? Why did you assume I'm this type of person? Unless you yourself is one? Wait, you're one of the LYN ferrari chaps YOU ARE BIASED

Btw, I dont have anything against ferrari fans in general. Just ferrari fans IN LYN in particular, are immature. As far as I can see in other F1 forums, the ferrari fans there are far more mature and wont make stupid/inconstructive posts

Feel free to continue flaming me It just goes on to show the real you

Hmm, do notice that in all my previous posts, I said "most ferrari fans" here are immature. But for the last post, I missed out that word. This time you really caught me red-handed for leaving out one word that could change the meaning of things by a lot. And for that, I apologize

Btw, if you read all the previous 2005 and 2006 season ferrari threads, you will find a lot of inconstructive posts But if you see those things as constructive, again it just shows whether it's you or me who's biased I dont post things out of nothing By the way, when McLaren wins, we just post some congratulatory message here, and didnt curse/cry foul when the rivals beaten us flat. We'll usually talk about the strategy chosen and the cause of defeat. Can you say the same about most of the ferrari fans here? The name-calling thing especially is a disgrace to all ferrari fans as a whole. Jeez, only little ones would have fun calling names

To make it more clear, I'm just trying to say that F1 is something for you to enjoy over the weekends. There's really no need to feel sore and angry/hate when things didnt go the way you want for your favourite team, and wishing misfortune to happen on others is certainly unnecessary. Talking bad about others is definitely unnecessary as well. Is it that hard to understand?

Seriously, about the Massa/Alonso thingy, I'm still not exactly sure who's wrong and who's right. So I didnt post a thing concerning that incident. It does seem that Alonso was slightly ahead into turn 1, but then Massa was on the inside. Massa got nowhere else to turn. So i guess that type of collision is quite hard to avoid I guess. But then again, I still think its avoidable had Alonso think logically a bit and just let go when the chance of collision is like 80%. Brute force+haste=stupid things happenIf I'm in his position, I wouldnt do stupid things that would cause my position to drop further especially when the competition is so stiff

This post has been edited by sleepy: Jul 14 2007, 10:19 AM

Great to see you've got my point It's something to enjoy, not something to fight/get upset over Anyway, it's still too early to tell if McLaren has actually implemented anything belonging to ferrari on their own car. So let's just wait for the results instead of speculating and flaming

I'm still here . Just there's nothing to discuss until next GP

With this unnecessary posts, it just proves that what I've said before is indeed correct. Most LYN Ferrari fans really are childish. It's OK if you talk bad about McLaren in your own thread. Coming here to post something like this? It's a clear sign that what you've posted here is a flame bait. Btw, there's only 2 teams involved in stepneygate. So you dont have to act a fool and say you're not referring to McLaren with that statement of yours.

Also, who are you and all the ferrari zealots here to say that McLaren is guilty as of now? Just wait till 26th July and dont post trash here for the moment. Even IF McLaren were found guilty by then, please post trash at your own thread, not here

Again, I hate to say this. You look like a total idiot by still arguing/defending your own typos/grammar mistakes. Again, is it your nature to make arguement out of nothing? If you made a mistake, admit it. Dont act like a stubborn child who refuses to admit mistakes.

Nah, Im not gonna do anything. Just proves one thing. You're childish like I said earlier Go to school kid ROTFL

Hmm, again alonso was outpaced by lewis. I wonder if alonso actually put 100% effort into friday test sessions or is he simply testing out something?

Anyway, this track has a lot of sharp turns, which kinda resemble the monaco circuit. Hopefully this will give the car an advantage Cant wait to see the qualifying tomorrow