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 Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4

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post Aug 25 2006, 12:51 PM

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McLaren has always been one of the champions no doubt about that and since then Formula has been dominated by 3 or 4 teams only....And other than those 4 Teams, the others are not worth mentioning....
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post Aug 25 2006, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Aug 25 2006, 12:55 PM)
meh, you seem to forgot the legacy of Colin Chapman and the Lotus team. yes, the team have died, but without them, there will be no F1 cars that shape like these today. Lotus ARE worth mentioning.
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I didnt forget nor even think of mentioning Lotus or Brabum because they weren't here anymore.... notworthy.gif

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post Aug 25 2006, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 25 2006, 03:19 PM)
maybe McLaren needs more budget.
The last time I heard Ferrari spent USD300 million for development.

But since the new rule and everything as well as the new rule on engine development...the budget must be a bit low now.

Kimi got pole twice consecutively in Germany and Hungary.
Looks like McLaren are back.
Hope got the 3rd one in Turkey.

But still lack of straight line speed compare to Ferrari.
Wonder how fast they go against Renault for that matter.
Also, how they cope with Bridgestone next season.
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Budget would be no problem for McLaren....what they short of is geniuses and good feedbacks....Untill those 2 feedbacks can be solved, you wont see a bulletproof McLaren just yet.... whistling.gif

The only strongest point of McLaren is at high downforce high/low speed cornering but short in acceleration and top speed...For instance Monaco this year....Alonso was trying to run away but Kimi just stayed behind him like glue....Renault are weak at that kinda race track...Same as Canada...

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post Aug 26 2006, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Aug 25 2006, 11:47 PM)
McLaren budget and Ferrari almost the same right?
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The amount I don't know exactly how many millions they spent....but from the performance they are generating...it is not something that is weird considering McLaren is a rich team....

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post Aug 26 2006, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 26 2006, 12:52 AM)
check out Mercedes Benz's factory...so neat.
Now that's how a world class cars being made.


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alahhh..this particular pictures is taken when they already know when will the photographer come to take pictures....when normal time...a mess also.... laugh.gif

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post Aug 26 2006, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Aug 26 2006, 01:13 AM)
actually Ron demands a clean workplace..u can dl some videos from mclaren website regarding the Mclaren Technology Center..its tidy and u wont b able to find a screw on the floor or piece of paper on the floor.. its a great place..
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I bet it was also cleaned up when they know Ron is at the office... tongue.gif


QUOTE(ccy1989 @ Aug 26 2006, 01:40 AM)
Wow shocking.gif ...the interior of that workshop is dam neat , clean and beautiful. No doubts Mercedes is 1 of the leading automotive industry in the world. I think Proton should set them as their example. tongue.gif
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Proton factory or service center at the Shah Alam plant is quite neat actually.... wink.gif

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post Sep 5 2006, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Sep 4 2006, 03:15 PM)
not many noticed it, but Ron has lead McLaren half of it's 40 years of existance, so never underestimate Ron Dennis.
Amazingly in '98 FIA has once shown that they can be just as cruel to McLaren as they did to Renault this season when they banned McLaren's revolutionary braking cooling system that they used in Australia. What was weird is that the reason it was banned is that many teams don't have the budget to develop that kind of system, which lead to these questions
1 - Don't every team try to outdo each other in development? why ban an item that a team has develop legally and within their own budget citing 'it's too expensive for other team'?
2 - The team that complained of the system was Ferrari, which also marks the first era of speculation that FIA and Ferrari was working together.

Some great innovation that McLaren has introduced to the sports
- Monocouque Chassis using Carbon Fibre
- Rear Brake system
- Zero keel
- Barge Board
- T wing
- Side Chimney
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Some teams do outdo other teams in development, its just that sometimes they are unlucky because the 'thing' that they created has some illegal contents with the FIA rules and regulations. But then certain teams just know how to make noise (Minardi- Stoddart era)

McLaren with their previous Technical Director (Adrian Newey) was a great combo and held many achievers back in 98 and 99....Since before he left the team, Newey was considered the 'guru' in aerodynamics, hence making him one of the most respectable aerodynamicist in his league (or even others).


QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Sep 5 2006, 01:06 AM)
FIA makes me so sick.
Double standard  doh.gif  shakehead.gif

Maybe all F1 teams should create another racing season.
I bet Ferrari won't.
They are the golden baby of FIA.
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Formula 1 is the only 'it'.

Other than that, the prestigeous of the race itself has its own value. Vehicle standards and design has always been comes from Formula one, and if the boycott even, there is no point since it is an established creme` la cremeria... laugh.gif


QUOTE(car_o_scope @ Sep 5 2006, 10:32 AM)
Yeah..You are rite.. very sick already.. The interest in watching F1 has decreased. The mass damper issue was the latest joke..  doh.gif
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FIA disregard of the Renaults mass damper issue, has always been a throwing stone icon towards them. Their view about Formula 1 is diffrent compared to ours (specatators). We like drivers shoving and bashing trying to fight for position but the FIA doesnt looks at it as entertaining. To them that kinda manuver is dangerous and cannot be tolerated. Hence the fine punishment was imposed to let drivers know that they are racing gentlemen'ly and not some punk who just got his licences two days ago.

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post Sep 6 2006, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Sep 6 2006, 10:11 AM)
I doubt that. the only time that McLaren looks menacing was at Monaco and Hungary, where speed is not that important.
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Speed is important there.....its just top speed that matters most...


QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 6 2006, 10:50 AM)
I doubt McLaren can win any of the last GP given the current form. Hope to see they mount a good challenge next year
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Never exclude Brazil too soon....McLaren are favourites there for the past 7 to 8 years..

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