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 Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4

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post Aug 29 2006, 03:43 PM

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hahhah everytime when i see the chart, when kimi is not at the front lines. I'll say "hell kimi has retired" and out of 10 times, 6 times im correct LOL XD
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post Aug 29 2006, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Aug 29 2006, 03:43 PM)
hahhah everytime when i see the chart, when kimi is not at the front lines. I'll say "hell kimi has retired" and out of 10 times, 6 times im correct LOL XD
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haha...yeah..his retiring rate is veli high...
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post Aug 30 2006, 02:47 PM

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If I recall correctly if Michael calls it quits at Ferarri, it is rumored that ALOT of engineers, mechanics are leaving as well, take this with a grain of salt, even Ross Brawn is considering taking either a sabbatical or retirement. Just imagine what this will do to Kimi's chances of winning a WDC with Ferarri if that happens.If this is all heresay and conjecture then thats cool, as Kimi will be with a team that has the most data on Bridgestone tyres, that alone could win him his first WDC. However I also would like to see both he and Alonso race together in the same car, we all know both are talented drivers,anyway Monza is drawing near, Ferarri will announce their driver lineup for 2007, anyone taking wagers on that one ? :-p

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QUOTE(praetorian @ Aug 30 2006, 02:47 PM)
If I recall correctly if Michael calls it quits at Ferarri, it is rumored that ALOT of engineers, mechanics are leaving as well, take this with a grain of salt, even Ross Brawn is considering taking either a sabbatical or retirement. Just imagine what this will do to Kimi's chances of winning a WDC with Ferarri if that happens.If this is all heresay and conjecture then thats cool, as Kimi will be with a team that has the most data on Bridgestone tyres, that alone could win him his first WDC. However I also would like to see both he and Alonso race together in the same car, we all know both are talented drivers,anyway Monza is drawing near, Ferarri will announce their driver lineup for 2007, anyone taking wagers on that one ? :-p
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i think kimi n alonso driver skill is same same onli la...

but i really kenot tahan d way alonso behave,....he'll ruined my ferrari reputation...
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post Aug 30 2006, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(praetorian @ Aug 30 2006, 02:47 PM)
If I recall correctly if Michael calls it quits at Ferarri, it is rumored that ALOT of engineers, mechanics are leaving as well, take this with a grain of salt, even Ross Brawn is considering taking either a sabbatical or retirement. Just imagine what this will do to Kimi's chances of winning a WDC with Ferarri if that happens.If this is all heresay and conjecture then thats cool, as Kimi will be with a team that has the most data on Bridgestone tyres, that alone could win him his first WDC. However I also would like to see both he and Alonso race together in the same car, we all know both are talented drivers,anyway Monza is drawing near, Ferarri will announce their driver lineup for 2007, anyone taking wagers on that one ? :-p
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maybe the engineers and mechanics fled...but Ferrari's hardwares and tech. stays.
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post Aug 30 2006, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 30 2006, 06:37 PM)
maybe the engineers and mechanics fled...but Ferrari's hardwares and tech. stays.
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but without the proper people that has the talent to continue research and development to push ferrari forward how far can kimi and the team go? maybe for the next 3 seasons while the engine development freeze is in effect but what happens after that?

perhaps ferrari will be able to recruit the necessary talent required in that 3 years time but we'll just have to wait and see about that i guess
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post Aug 31 2006, 12:42 AM

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well success takes time 2 build.if ferrari can build the class of 2000 on time,i m sure the team can do the same 4 the new driver.
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QUOTE(viNcee @ Aug 30 2006, 07:19 PM)
but without the proper people that has the talent to continue research and development to push ferrari forward how far can kimi and the team go? maybe for the next 3 seasons while the engine development freeze is in effect but what happens after that?

perhaps ferrari will be able to recruit the necessary talent required in that 3 years time but we'll just have to wait and see about that i guess
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Ferrari has been in F1 since like...forever.
I think you are underestimating Ferrari by making that statement.

They are the most successful F1 team in history.
Those success does not come easy.
I think Ferrari are well prepared about the problem about their mechanics and
engineers leaving the team.

Of all the other teams this season, only Ferrari were able to match Renault's
performance in a short period of time...better now they won the last 3 out of 4 races.

Even McLaren were so slow doing that doh.gif shakehead.gif
"Goyang kaki" ke? doh.gif

QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Aug 31 2006, 12:42 AM)
well success takes time 2 build.if ferrari can build the class of 2000 on time,i m sure the team can do the same 4 the new driver.
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Exactly my point rclxms.gif

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post Aug 31 2006, 09:39 AM

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when will ferrari annouce their driver line-up?
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post Aug 31 2006, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 31 2006, 02:14 AM)
Ferrari has been in F1 since like...forever.
I think you are underestimating Ferrari by making that statement.

They are the most successful F1 team in history.
Those success does not come easy.
I think Ferrari are well prepared about the problem about their mechanics and
engineers leaving the team.

Of all the other teams this season, only Ferrari were able to match Renault's
performance in a short period of time...better now they won the last 3 out of 4 races.

Even McLaren were so slow doing that  doh.gif  shakehead.gif
"Goyang kaki" ke?  doh.gif
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the whole reason they were able to bounce back so fast this season is because they have all those talented and skilled engineers. so what happens when most of them are gone? the problem now is with human resources and sometimes it's not just about hiring the best engineers out there but having a team which can work together.

not that i'm underestimating ferrari but none of us here know for sure whether ferrari are well prepared to handle their problem. maybe with ferrari's long experience in the field they know where to search for the right people. like i said, we can only wait and see

mclaren forever slow wan la. took them so long to churn out a fast (but unreliable tongue.gif) car also last year laugh.gif

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when will ferrari annouce their  driver line-up?
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well according to this article it will be at monza

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Ferrari refusing to give Schumi more time
Tuesday August 29 2006

Ferrari have denied Michael Schumacher's request for more time and are insisting that he lets them know prior to the Italian GP what his plans are for next year.

Schumacher's current Ferrari contract expires at the end of this season, however, the German has yet to decide if he wants to continue racing in 2007 or retire.

And according to his manager, Willi Weber, Ferrari's insistance on announcing their driver line-up at next weekend's Italian GP is putting undo pressure on Schumacher.

"They should let him decide in peace by waiting until the end of the season," Weber told Sport-Informations-Diens.

However, Ferrari are refusing to wait any longer for Schumacher to decide.

"We will definitely announce our driver pairing for 2007 in Monza," a Ferrari spokesman told GMM news agency.


source: www.planet-f1.com

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Ferrari is cld be the most successful F1 team of all time. But, it is also full of controversy too. Illegal testing is annoying of all when they are not in winning form. Not forgetting the preferential treatment from Bridgestone
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i think mclaren having a bad result recently becoz the aerodynamic designer run to red bull already.... correct me if i was wrong
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post Aug 31 2006, 11:01 PM

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yeah adrian newey is out of the team rclxub.gif so lets say if ferrari mechanics all gone with MS dunno how the team will perform nx season rclxub.gif
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Tuesday August 29 2006

Ferrari have denied Michael Schumacher's request for more time and are insisting that he lets them know prior to the Italian GP what his plans are for next year.

Schumacher's current Ferrari contract expires at the end of this season, however, the German has yet to decide if he wants to continue racing in 2007 or retire.

And according to his manager, Willi Weber, Ferrari's insistance on announcing their driver line-up at next weekend's Italian GP is putting undo pressure on Schumacher.

"They should let him decide in peace by waiting until the end of the season," Weber told Sport-Informations-Diens.

However, Ferrari are refusing to wait any longer for Schumacher to decide.

"We will definitely announce our driver pairing for 2007 in Monza," a Ferrari spokesman told GMM news agency.


this is all for the sake of the team,if m.shumacher decided to retire at the end of this season,maybe ferrari first choice driver kimi raikkonen will leave mclaren for renault already,or choose to stay at mclaren,ferrari hav to do it earlier
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post Sep 1 2006, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 31 2006, 02:12 PM)
Ferrari is cld be the most successful F1 team of all time. But, it is also full of controversy too. Illegal testing is annoying of all when they are not in winning form. Not forgetting the preferential treatment from Bridgestone
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Agree.
Well, those road Ferrari cars were so d*mn expensive and luxurious.
That's how they finance their F1 team.

Worked at a pump station once.
Fuelled up a red Ferrari Testarossa.
The car was so low to the ground...I guess there's downforce right there.
Made for speed.


QUOTE(NiTRouSoXide @ Sep 1 2006, 12:01 AM)
this is all for the sake of the team,if m.shumacher decided to retire at the end of this season,maybe ferrari first choice driver kimi raikkonen will leave mclaren for renault already,or choose to stay at mclaren,ferrari hav to do it earlier
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asik Ferrari saja tongue.gif
when will McLaren announce their drivers for 2007?
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post Sep 1 2006, 11:07 AM

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Need to clarify 1 thing. Please change the thread title as McLaren is no longer known as the "West McLaren Mercedes" but as "Team McLaren Mercedes". Also, next season it is "Vodafone McLaren Mercedes".

Newey designed this season's car before he went to RedBUll as his contract ended in April
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i think alonso's car hav prob..... stil not tat stable...... but ferrari car are in good shape now.... so not much to worry... jus luck... hope no safety car come out when both ferrari are 1-2
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Bro jackygwh, u got in the wrong section tongue.gif McLaren Mercedes here. We hope 1-2 and not Ferrari in this thread. biggrin.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Sep 1 2006, 06:59 PM)
Bro jackygwh, u got in the wrong section  tongue.gif  McLaren Mercedes here. We hope 1-2 and not Ferrari in this thread. biggrin.gif  laugh.gif
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exactly.
a few Ferrari fans lost their way a bit tongue.gif
Ferrari thread is just around the corner tongue.gif
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mclaren lost a bit of gear this season...don't worry,sure win next year...

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