And he's not angry anymore after DNF.
He's persuading himself by saying that Ferrari's gonna make it up to him next year.

yes it was raining during qualifying at suzuka 2005. the rain was heaviest when michael schumi, alonso and both the mclaren's came out

Dont think so that McLaren can win either remaining 2 races. It just didnt have the pace and reliability of Renault or Ferrari



Yep. The car is just crappy.

The pace is there, just the engine is not. With the engine will be frozen starting next season, this is a disaster if Illmor cannot find reliability fast

the engine is fine just other mechanical prob is it?

I think is the computer have some problem..enigne is fine i think

If McLaren does not solve this problem fast...clearly next season and 2008 will be a Ferrari whitewash.

Fisi in Renault needs a lot of thing to do.

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Oct 4 2006, 12:30 AM

This doesn't make sense
Every season all the teams have to redesign a new package anyway

This post has been edited by verx: Oct 4 2006, 01:08 PM

Mario Illien and Paul Morgan =Ilmor.. Morgan died. Illien still alive. Engines always blew in Mika's final season. Then, they had a hard time. McLaren Mercedes and Ilmor still in partnership? I thought they have gone separate ways.. Maybe I got the news wrong..

2007 and 2008 season will be Ferrari's whitewash.
The only thing to see for McLaren is Alonso's downfall with a crappy car.
And what the 2nd driver can achieve.

The 2nd car were better IMHO in terms of performance.
Why huh?

If i'm not mistaken, Ilmor has been integrated into Mercedes but technically all the personnel are still there.

It will be pretty hard to gauge who will have the best car for 2007, although Ferarri have a distinct advantage since they have been running on Bridgetone tyres for like forever ,and they have the FIA by the balls.

I refuse to count Mclaren out, reason being they are Mclaren , yes they have a crap car but if havin a crap car can put them them 3rd in the constructors championship...it cant be all that bad.

Red Bull, Williams,and possibly Honda could spring a suprise.

My money is Kimi in a Ferrari and Alonso in the Mclaren. (even if it is a crappy car)
I dont see Massa threatening Kimi , ie like Massa didnt threaten Michael.

No disrespect but when competiting...competiting to win...that's the best motivation.
"Being 2nd is to be the first of the ones who lose."
Words by the late Ayrton Senna

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Oct 5 2006, 02:46 PM

mclaren is not a team tat aim juz 2 finish a race like super aguri or earning lil points like william

I understand where u r coming from but it's very disrespectful to one of the oldest teams in F1 to say that they just earn lil points since Williams have won their fair share of titles in the past.

True. Williams has proven it can built race winning cars, and even tho they suck this year, there have been some signs of that still, like in Monaco

hope kim will repeat as preview year that on the last lap he takeover fishi on the last lap..... damn nice to watch that race

From what I heard from the PC after Kimi wins in Suzuka 2005, he had an engine change and then drop 10 places.


Hope he can do better this time.
No need to chase from the back...way back.

How I wish that Kimi will win a GP as a parting gift for McLaren.

Yeah