hie,
i'm planning to get the 830 for my wife when it comes into your shores but i heard it's on WP8.1?
does this mean that this 830 is stuck with WP8.1?
Official Windows Phone 8.1 Discussion Thread! V4
Official Windows Phone 8.1 Discussion Thread! V4
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Oct 2 2014, 09:09 AM
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hie,
i'm planning to get the 830 for my wife when it comes into your shores but i heard it's on WP8.1? does this mean that this 830 is stuck with WP8.1? |
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Oct 2 2014, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ Oct 2 2014, 09:20 AM) it's on wp8.1 update 1 with Lumia Denim firmware by stuck i mean, would it be that 830 will not be getting updates because i think i read from somewhere that if you're on 8.1 then you're there.what do you mean by stuck? Lumia 830 definitely going to support Windows 10 at least 2 years support Like Lumia 920 still get updates support good to know that there will be support for future updates. the reason for this fear is that i was one of the early adopters of WP when it first came into Malaysia (ie. Lumia 800). i bought it on the 2nd day of release. it was on WP7. few months later, Windows conveniently announced that all support for WP7 will be terminated HOWEVER they will release WP7.8 to sorta sooth the pain. it was a very dark day. QUOTE(wwoosy @ Oct 2 2014, 09:58 AM) because it's Microsoft, that's why I am worried. |
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Oct 2 2014, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ Oct 2 2014, 11:34 AM) that's wrong, Microsoft guaranteed at least two years software support yeap. be that as it may but once is quite enough to inflict the fear. that's why now i intend to make proper research and ensure right disclosure of all facts before getting my feet wet once more.830 is going to get Windows 10 and two years old 920 will also get it, just maybe some features may only be available for high end device in the future. like Lumia Denim allows 4k recording, 1520 and 930 will get it, but 830 only full hd because of hardware restriction. you will still get the software updates and apps are still able to run wp7.8 case is a special case because wp8 uses a new kernel which wp7 device hardware cant support, if we still stick with old kernel that is compatible with wp7 hardware, our apps will be even less, it will be even harder to code for wp it was actually QUALCOMM try to force Microsoft to make that kind of decision. with the new CEO im confident that Microsoft will do better than ever before Microsoft brings cortana on lumia 530, the lowest end device but Siri cant even run on iPhone 4 whatever it is, although i appreciate that MS pushes out Lumia 800 back then but i still think they should have withhold it. the time of the first release and the announcement of the termination of support is less than 6 months. MS cannot possibly claim that they have no knowledge and was caught by surprise and was coerced into deciding what they have done. i cannot accept this. to be fair to Apple, 530 may be the lowest end of the lineup but it was announced in July 2014. the iPhone 4 was in 2010 -.- therefore given the benefit of the doubt, probably whatever that is available at that time would not make a "good" Siri. Heck, even the Siri in iOS 7 was flawed, it only got better in iOS8. the iPhone 4 does have voice recognition capabilities in fact, even the previous generations of the iPod Touch has this but was very well undermined because of the limited functions it can perform but it was in the development stage. Apple knew it could go somewhere back then but didn't know it could go thus far. But nonetheless, i really hope MS really takes good care of the Nokia brand because I really want to go back to them. This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: Oct 2 2014, 12:23 PM |
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Oct 2 2014, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 2 2014, 12:37 PM) I feel you man. I'm stuck with WP7.8 for a long time. Even worse, they killed skype on WP7.8. Promised this and that but at the end this is what we get. I don't think I will go for WP (or whatever they call it) again. I've always used Nokia before Samsung stepped up to the game and the emergence of the underdog, Apple. I was on my N78 before i made the switch to my first ever smartphone, the Lumia 800 and i vowed that i will use it for a long time but then the termination support notice came and well, let's just say it all went down hill.Maybe it wouldn't affect me "that bad" if it wasn't my first experience with a smartphone but like the say "first cut is the deepest". I'm now on the 5S and so far, it hasn't failed me. I wouldn't give it the ultimatum to boycott it forever. If MS decided to put effort into its smartphone lineup, i will definitely go back. the likes of Android and iOS bores me. On a side note, the METRO UI is really really appealing (at least to me). QUOTE(ajax91 @ Oct 2 2014, 12:38 PM) even lumia 520 also get cortana, what im trying to say is, Microsoft is aware of that wp7 case if in indeed MS is trying to make amends for its past, i applaud them but putting everything into something is not going to make things better, in fact, it could have adverse effect. unless such feature is optimized for that particular device, the user experience may result in negative feedback. Sure, it may look impressive for a low end phone to b epacked with features otherwise only available to high end but MS should thread carefully else it will back fire.and now they are trying to support even the lowest end device as longer as possible to regain customer faith |
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Oct 2 2014, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ Oct 2 2014, 02:17 PM) to be honest, i have been getting mixed reviews on this. of course it's not perfect but some say the lag is quite noticeable especially during the transition of applications.of course, i am not expecting 0% lag from a low end phone but my concern is that i hope MS don't get sucked into the same game as Samsung where they are trying to shove every possible feature into their phone and ended up clogging the phone and making the phone almost impossible to use in 3 to 4 years time. what i hope is that MS would drive towards the direction of "optimization". if it's good across the board, there's no need to introduce high end features to a low end phone. if users are convinced with their low end phones, they will venture into their high end line ups. it will come naturally, that's what i am saying. |
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Oct 2 2014, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ Oct 2 2014, 02:52 PM) can you show me the review which shows lag on lumia 520? i think if you just key in "lumia 520 lag" for google search. there are aplenty.wp8.1 is about optimization for low end, that's what Microsoft said. i rarely trust what these companies said because they said what they are supposed to say. |
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