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TSGuitary
post Aug 9 2014, 02:24 AM, updated 8y ago

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My mum is diagnosed with nasopharyngeal cancer, stage 1. I am looking for a hospital to send my mum for her treatment but i have no idea which hospital is good and credible at treating cancer.

Any recommendation for a hospital with good radiotherapy service or cancer treatment? Can also tell me how much does it actually cost? Btw im from selangor. My family is not rich but we will try to provide the best for our mum.

You are free to share me your experience about cancer (or person close to you), food to eat and avoid, or anything else related to cancer. I appreciate all the information you are willing to share with me. Thanks.

EDIT: My mum is now diagnosed with nasopharyngeal cancer, WHO type III, T1, N2, MX, should be stage 3 or 4.

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post Aug 9 2014, 03:11 AM

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Sorry to hear this. UM's ORL dept has specialists for NPC. But there could be other places.
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post Aug 9 2014, 03:23 AM

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hi, sorry to hear this. My friend's father was suffered in Leukemia. He drank a milk called Stolle skim milk powder. So far he is in good condition and getting fatter. Wish your mum is getting well soon.
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post Aug 9 2014, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Guitary @ Aug 9 2014, 03:24 AM)
My mum is diagnosed with nasopharyngeal cancer, stage 1. I am looking for a hospital to send my mum for her treatment but i have no idea which hospital is good and credible at treating cancer.

Any recommendation for a hospital with good radiotherapy service or cancer treatment? Can also tell me how much does it actually cost? Btw im from selangor. My family is not rich but we will try to provide the best for our mum.

You are free to share me your experience about cancer (or person close to you), food to eat and avoid, or anything else related to cancer. I appreciate all the information you are willing to share with me. Thanks.
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Hi, sorry to hear that. I have learned that before taking health food supplement to minimize it side effect (chemotherapy). Immune system is very important to fight against cancer cell. In our immune system, there is type of cells called "Natural killer cells" which can destroy anything in their path. They flood infected cells with toxins and destructive enzymes, which effectively destroys all foreign invaders or cells that are growing abnormally, such as cancer cells.

Do all things to help to improve the immune system (such as healthier lifestyle + exercise + right diet + right health food supplement + positive (mentally) + positive/happy (emotionally) ).

For the diet/food, if can go for home-cook food and organic food. Way of cooking also very important. Steam should be the healthiest. If she drink alcohol/smoke, encourage her to stop it gradually. Reduce sugar, salt, high bad fat food. Drink a lot of water. Go for food/fruit which has high anti-oxidant like oranges, carrot, kiwi, walnut (3 biji a day only) and etc.

From cancer.org,

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Does alcohol increase cancer risk?

Yes. Alcohol raises the risk of cancers of the mouth, pharynx (throat), larynx (voice box), esophagus, liver, and breast, and probably of the colon and rectum. People who drink alcohol should limit their intake to no more than 2 drinks per day for men and 1 drink per day for women. A drink is defined as 12 ounces of beer, 5 ounces of wine, or 1.5 ounces of 80-proof distilled spirits. The combination of alcohol and tobacco increases the risk of some cancers far more than the effect of either drinking or smoking alone. Regular intake of even a few drinks per week is linked to a higher risk of breast cancer in women, especially in women who do not get enough folate. Women at high risk of breast cancer may want to consider not drinking any alcohol.


For exercise, I would suggest tai chi, light yoga, qi kong for the elderly.

Make her happy and laugh much if can. Maybe get her favorite comedy DVDs to watch smile.gif

Below, I extracted from cancercenter.com:

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At Cancer Treatment Centers of America (CTCA), we fight cancer using an integrative approach. Our Mind-Body Medicine Department offers supportive options, including laughter therapy, to help you cope as you receive conventional cancer treatments.

Laughter therapy strives to help you use and enjoy laughter as a tool for healing. Dr. Katherine Puckett, National Director of Mind-Body Medicine at CTCA, first introduced laughter therapy to Midwestern Regional Medical Center upon a patient’s request.

CTCA offers humor therapy sessions, also known as Laughter Clubs or humor groups, to help cancer patients and their families use and enjoy laughter as a tool for healing. These leader-led groups take patients through a number of laugh-related exercises including fake laughter and laughter greetings.

Laughter Club is based not on humor or jokes, but rather on laughter as a physical exercise. One group laughter exercise involves patients standing in a circle, with the leader in the middle. Patients put their fingertips on their cheekbones, chest or lower abdomen and make “ha ha” or “hee hee” sounds until they felt vibrations through their bodies. Dr. Puckett says during these exercises, it is hard for people not to join in because laughter is so contagious.

According to Dr. Puckett, at the end of a laughter therapy session, patients have said things like “I didn’t even think about cancer during Laughter Club” and “That felt great! Things have been so hard that we hadn’t laughed in months.” Dr. Puckett adds that, just recently, the eight-year-old daughter of a CTCA patient who attended Laughter Club said afterwards: “I never thought about laughing everyday, but now I realize I can. Like even when I don’t feel happy, I can still laugh and feel better.”



Spiritual power

“Cancer is caused by the suppression of toxic negative emotions [primarily anger, hate, resentment and grief]“ - http://www.alternative-cancer-care.com/can...anger-link.html

Below is extracted from www.cancer.org - http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments...lity-and-prayer

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Although available research has not supported claims that spirituality or prayer can cure cancer or any other disease, spiritual well-being is linked to better quality of life in people with cancer.

Some proponents of spirituality in the context of health claim that prayer can decrease the negative effects of disease, speed recovery, and increase the effectiveness of medical treatments. Faith and religious beliefs are also thought to improve coping and provide comfort during illness. Attendance at religious events and services is sometimes linked with improvement of various health conditions such as heart disease, hypertension, stroke, colitis, cancers, and overall health status. Scientific evidence is mixed.

Studies done on the impact of prayer and spirituality often focus on the effect of religious beliefs and behavior on health, survival, and quality of life. For many of these studies, results have been mixed. Although some research has found that religious groups with orthodox beliefs and behavior have lower cancer death rates, this may be due to healthier habits. For example, some religious groups ban smoking, limit food intake, and drink little or no alcohol. These factors often help promote good health outcomes and lower cancer risk.

The U.S. Office of Technology Assessment reported that a survey of articles published in the Journal of Family Practice over ten years found that 83% of studies on religiosity found a benefit in physical health. Another study of 2 major psychiatric journals over 12 years found that for the studies that measured religiosity, 92% showed a benefit for mental health, 4% were neutral, and 4% showed harm. Religiosity was measured by participation in religious ceremony, social support, prayer, and belief in a higher being.

An analysis of 43 studies on people with advanced cancer noted that those who reported spiritual well-being were able to cope more effectively with terminal illnesses and find meaning in their experience. Major themes of spiritual well-being included self-awareness, coping with stress, connectedness with others, faith, empowerment, confidence, and the ability to live with meaning and hope.

A more recent study found that spiritual well-being was linked with lower distress levels in people who had been treated for colorectal cancer. The researchers reported that the factors with the strongest link to lower emotional distress were finding peace and meaning in their lives. This result would suggest that spiritual well-being might mean less emotional distress at several stages of cancer.”


I have sent you a PM for extra information about what health food supplement. She will recover soon. Don't worry too much. smile.gif

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TSGuitary
post Aug 9 2014, 12:50 PM

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actually my mum is not really diagnosed with this cancer yet, some tests have been done and the doctor says that the chances of this cancer is 75%, possibly higher because doctors always try to comfort patients. however, my mum does show a few symptoms of head and neck cancer. the final result will be concluded on monday.

so the outcome could be my mum is alright, or worse. i can only hope for the best for my mum.

thank you for all ur help.
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post Aug 9 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Guitary @ Aug 9 2014, 01:50 PM)
actually my mum is not really diagnosed with this cancer yet, some tests have been done and the doctor says that the chances of this cancer is 75%, possibly higher because doctors always try to comfort patients. however, my mum does show a few symptoms of head and neck cancer. the final result will be concluded on monday.

so the outcome could be my mum is alright, or worse. i can only hope for the best for my mum.

thank you for all ur help.
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oh okay, if you need more info and advice about cancer, I can bring you meet my friend. He has helped more than 12 cancer patients fully recovered. The recent cancer patient is helping is doing immunotheraphy in bangsar medical centre about 2 weeks ago. I have sent my contact number to your private message. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 15 2014, 09:40 AM

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my mum is now diagnosed with nasopharyngeal cancer, WHO type III, T1, N2, MX, should be stage 3 or 4. will be doing a CT-PET scan on monday. will still need recommendation from all of u..
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post Aug 15 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Guitary @ Aug 15 2014, 10:40 AM)
my mum is now diagnosed with nasopharyngeal cancer, WHO type III, T1, N2, MX, should be stage 3 or 4. will be doing a CT-PET scan on monday. will still need recommendation from all of u..
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post Aug 15 2014, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Guitary @ Aug 15 2014, 09:40 AM)
my mum is now diagnosed with nasopharyngeal cancer, WHO type III, T1, N2, MX, should be stage 3 or 4. will be doing a CT-PET scan on monday. will still need recommendation from all of u..
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Hello Guitary,

I suggest for you to find the medicine or supplements that can boost up or educate your mother immune system. For me, I consume transfer factor, and it is from 4Life.

Please send the email to my agent if you're interested - shally.4life@gmail.com. Or you can pm me, and we can set make appointment.



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post Aug 16 2014, 04:55 AM

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QUOTE(Naomi_Abi @ Aug 15 2014, 02:55 PM)
Hello Guitary,

I suggest for you to find the medicine or supplements that can boost up or educate your mother immune system. For me, I consume transfer factor, and it is from 4Life.

Please send the email to my agent if you're interested - shally.4life@gmail.com. Or you can pm me, and we can set make appointment.
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post Aug 16 2014, 06:23 AM

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im sorry my friends. i dont need any supplement for my mum at this moment. will be sending my mum for proper treatment, follow doctor's advice.

btw beacon hospital and SJMC, which one is better? or any other hospitals.
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Beacon has Cyberknife, the robot machine. The only one in the country, I believe.

Subang Jaya has tomotherapy.

Mount Miriam in Penang has tomotherapy too.

Nilai has Trilogy.

All also quite good.


But I guess Subang Jaya, being a big hospital, would have better facilities
for cancer treatment. Nilai and Mount Miriam is probably not convenient for you.

Your mum's case looks quite advanced.



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post Aug 16 2014, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Aug 16 2014, 06:44 AM)
Beacon has Cyberknife, the robot machine. The only one in the country, I believe.

Subang Jaya has tomotherapy.

Mount Miriam in Penang has tomotherapy too.

Nilai has Trilogy.

All also quite good.
But I guess Subang Jaya, being a big hospital, would have better facilities
for cancer treatment. Nilai and Mount Miriam is probably not convenient for you.

Your mum's case looks quite advanced.
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thank you for ur suggestion. her neck lumps only appear about 1 month ago, took some time to do all the tests. i know it doesnt look good but hopefully she will be fine.
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post Aug 16 2014, 07:57 AM

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Didn't you mention in your first post that you are open to all forms of input,
including food, etc ?

There are countless supplements, herbs and quite a few common drugs which you
can get at your nearby pharmacy (which your oncologist probably would not even
have heard of) which fight cancer, but since you now say you prefer only to follow
the doctors' advice, I will leave it as that.



Here's an insight, anyway.

The common antinflammatory drug, Celebrex.


Influence of celecoxib on invasiveness of human high-metastatic
nasopharyngeal carcinoma cell line CNE-2Z.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21215211




Standard chemo for NPC is cisplatin plus 5-FU.

Note that as little as 200 mg of Celebrex a day has benefit.


Efficacy and safety of concurrent chemoradiation with weekly cisplatin ± low-dose
celecoxib in locally advanced undifferentiated nasopharyngeal carcinoma:
a phase II-III clinical trial.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22269407/





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post Aug 16 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Guitary @ Aug 16 2014, 07:23 AM)
im sorry my friends. i dont need any supplement for my mum at this moment. will be sending my mum for proper treatment, follow doctor's advice.

btw beacon hospital and SJMC, which one is better? or any other hospitals.
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Hi, I encourage you to be open-minded especially this is concerning your mom life span. We all also have mom and wants the best for her. Conventional cancer treatment in the hospital will be chemotherapy and it is the right path but the thing is it lead her to much side-effect. The more effective treatment is chemotherapy + excellent anti-cancer health food (lingzhi + bee pollen). It can't be only supplement alone. It gotta be both together. And with doctor's approval.

If you don't believe me, you can research about it. There are too many real life testimonies people who undergo this treatment has recovered from cancer, even terminal (last) stage of cancer. One of them is my church member's father, recovered from terminal stage brain cancer after 3 months. If you want to meet his wife, you can come to visit my church this sunday. PM me if you want to get the church address.


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post Aug 16 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Aug 16 2014, 07:57 AM)
Didn't you mention in your first post that you are open to all forms of input,
including food, etc ?

There are countless supplements, herbs and quite a few common drugs which you
can get at your nearby pharmacy (which your oncologist probably would not even
have heard of) which fight cancer, but since you now say you prefer only to follow
the doctors' advice, I will leave it as that.
Here's an insight, anyway.

The common antinflammatory drug, Celebrex.
Influence of celecoxib on invasiveness of human high-metastatic
nasopharyngeal carcinoma cell line CNE-2Z.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21215211
Standard chemo for NPC is cisplatin plus 5-FU.

Note that as little as 200 mg of Celebrex a day has benefit.
Efficacy and safety of concurrent chemoradiation with weekly cisplatin ± low-dose
celecoxib in locally advanced undifferentiated nasopharyngeal carcinoma:
a phase II-III clinical trial.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22269407/
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Aug 16 2014, 08:57 AM)
Hi, I encourage you to be open-minded especially this is concerning your mom life span. We all also have mom and wants the best for her. Conventional cancer treatment in the hospital will be chemotherapy and it is the right path but the thing is it lead her to much side-effect. The more effective treatment is chemotherapy + excellent anti-cancer health food (lingzhi + bee pollen). It can't be only supplement alone. It gotta be both together. And with doctor's approval.

If you don't believe me, you can research about it. There are too many real life testimonies people who undergo this treatment has recovered from cancer, even terminal (last) stage of cancer. One of them is my church member's father, recovered from terminal stage brain cancer after 3 months. If you want to meet his wife, you can come to visit my church this sunday. PM me if you want to get the church address.
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thank you. the reason i say not at this moment is we want to get approval from my mum's doctor first. taking supplement blindly now may not be the best idea yet.
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QUOTE(Guitary @ Aug 16 2014, 11:33 AM)
thank you. the reason i say not at this moment is we want to get approval from my mum's doctor first. taking supplement blindly now may not be the best idea yet.
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Yes, get doctor's approval first.
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Doctors, including oncologists, only know about, and are trained to, give drugs.

They won't know about supplements, herbs and off-label drugs which have
cancer-fighting properties.

Even before you see the oncologist, I can tell you that the standard chemo
regimen for nasopharyngeal cancer is :

Cisplatin
5-FU

Unless the oncologist is more innovative and gives you one of the tyrosine kinase
inhibitors, EGFR inhibitors, monoclonal antibodies, or the Japanese 5-FU derivative, S1.


None of my friends, and there are quite a number, who had this form of cancer
over the years, are alive. With the exception of my former tax senior's wife, who
parlty followed what I told him to give her over a decade ago.


Nasopharyngeal cancer affects predominantly Chinese, mainly for genetic reasons.

Two of them were my former company secretary and one of the bosses' bouncers.

Cancer is an extremely complex disease, with many genetic and biochemical
pathways involved. When you do research on it, you'll know what I mean.

Cancer cells are immortal. As long as you feed them, they grow forever.


That is why life extensionists, or people who are more knowledgeable about
cutting edge-supplements, go into things like this, and those who have cancer
take them, along with their doctors' chemo, radio and surgical treatment.


http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/25952-cancer-knowledge/

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/26610...nd-supplements/



Note that the above threads, especially the first one, have become redundant
ever since I left the forum, but about half the posts there were mine.





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post May 9 2015, 04:02 PM

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Tham, can you give me advise on npc asap?
My email dyfw@hotmail.com

Thks








QUOTE(Tham @ Aug 16 2014, 01:42 PM)
Doctors, including oncologists, only know about, and are trained to, give drugs.

They won't know about supplements, herbs and off-label drugs which have
cancer-fighting properties.

Even before you see the oncologist, I can tell you that the standard chemo
regimen for nasopharyngeal cancer is :

Cisplatin
5-FU

Unless the oncologist is more innovative and gives you one of the tyrosine kinase
inhibitors, EGFR inhibitors, monoclonal antibodies, or the Japanese 5-FU derivative, S1.
None of my friends, and there are quite a number, who had this form of cancer
over the years, are alive. With the exception of my former tax senior's wife, who
parlty followed what I told him to give her over a decade ago.
Nasopharyngeal cancer affects predominantly Chinese, mainly for genetic reasons.

Two of them were my former company secretary and one of the bosses' bouncers.

Cancer is an extremely complex disease, with many genetic and biochemical
pathways involved. When you do research on it, you'll know what I mean.

Cancer cells are immortal. As long as you feed them, they grow forever.
That is why life extensionists, or people who are more knowledgeable about
cutting edge-supplements, go into things like this, and those who have cancer
take them, along with their doctors' chemo, radio and surgical treatment.
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/25952-cancer-knowledge/

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/26610...nd-supplements/
Note that the above threads, especially the first one, have become redundant
ever since I left the forum, but about half the posts there were mine.
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post Mar 30 2018, 12:55 PM

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My dad has HCC stage 3 and liver cirrhosis. Doctor recommended us to start with cancer drug (sorafenib). We bought it and a week later, the doctor claimed that the drug is no longer suitable for my dad. Its RM8100 for 2weeks, we are middle income group. The boxes is opened but have not been consumed. We have doctor's prescription and receipt. What should we do with this drug? If it is sellable, we don't mind to release it at a lower price. Please advice!




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