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y4ng
post Oct 12 2014, 12:36 AM

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hello all sifus!

I am driving a neo cps manual, currently using semi syn Liqui Moly

I wanna change to fully syn, looking at torco or motul...any suggestions?
grade wise, and of course, good engine protection!
thank you!
y4ng
post Oct 12 2014, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2014, 12:47 AM)
Check your manual,  I believe someone mentioned xw30
If that's true,  consider trying out 0w20

Then there's budget,  for run of the mill,  there's Motul h tech 100 plus. About 180 for 4 litres

Torco SR1 (i also highly recommended)  is more performance oriented however they go for around 240/4 litres

There's also motul 8100 series although I haven't tried them out.
I have and is currently on their 300v and my god those double esters are smooth! Not cheap though at about 340/4 litres

If you're looking for insanely long oci, look no further than amsoil signature series (which I have included uoa on first page)
They go at about 180 to 200/4 litres
If you want some certification like api,  then scale down to amsoil OE series which also guarantees damn long oci as well (iinm 15k miles instead of 25k miles compared to signature series.  Yes f***ing miles not km)
Should be a bit cheaper than signature series
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fast reply hehe!

i am looking at Torco SR-1R 10W-40, cos my engine overhauled once (cos 1st owner sucked at maintaining), should i go for lower grade? 30s? 5W or 10W dont really make a diff right? i change at 10k when i use fully syn?

motul, used by proton's R3 team as well correct? too expensive for RM340 >.< I am looking at 200++ ranges

for amsoil, erm malaysia's proton filter kenot last that long, so using so long good meh? lazy go to mechanic as them replace oil filter nia, sure he oso tulan.
y4ng
post Oct 12 2014, 01:08 AM

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wait...
300v RM340/4L?

Can tell me where you buy?

y4ng
post Oct 12 2014, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2014, 01:34 AM)
The R's aren't API SN certified though, and i doubt they'd put any more detergent/additives for to have the oil last.
it's as per advertised, for racing purposes, however there's always the SR5 or better racing oils so i'm assuming for the more budget conscious racers perhaps? lol.

i use xw20 or xw30 because in malaysia, there's no winter, and w is basically winter grade.
there are MINOR differences on the overall viscosity if you check the data specs, so generally i prefer to go a slow as possible, such as 0w20 instead of say 5w20.
personally i prefer to go as thin viscosity as possible (if manufacturer says xw30, i'll go 10 lower to xw20) depending on manufacturer. AFAIK Campros are either xw30 or xw40 specified, so xw20/xw30 is no problem.

SR1's (or ANY reputable full synthetics especially API SN certified ones) have absolutely NO issue on 10k km, i did 14k km or 16k km afaik (may refer to my previous posts or the ones i saved on first page)

200 ranges i believe the Motul 8100 series would qualify although i've never used them before so i can't personally comment/recommend.
the amsoil/torco SR1 all fall into your budget as well.

Filter don't last long? no problem! half way down the oci cycle you're free to change the oil filter! can diy or send to workshops paying rm10-20.
example: your oci is 20k km, at 10k km just replace the oil filter only, and top up any oil loss during the process smile.gif

you pay mech rm20 also you'd STILL SAVE money in the long run as you only spent 1 time engine oil.
he tulan rm 20? go other mechanics. there's plentiful of places who'd gladly accept a quick buck for a quick oil filter replacement.
worse case? DIY.
hmm should be a typo, 350++
but then again i pretty much bought in bulk and the bill was way over 1k+ to get better pricing sweat.gif
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Anytime u r buying 300v? Maybe gatal wanna try hehehe....can share where u buy please?

y4ng
post Oct 12 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2014, 01:58 PM)
Thank you! Kepong quite near to where i work maybe i drop by if the price is right =) thank you fr your great advice
y4ng
post Oct 13 2014, 12:25 AM

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yo sifus! chemlube anyone?

thinking of bulk and chemlube in my range hehehe (cheaper than sr1)
y4ng
post Oct 13 2014, 08:06 AM

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Hmmm i was comparing the specs, seems more or less like sr1. Think i will try one round of sr1 before going for chemlube. Any fake torco out there? I am a bit worried to buy from LYN forummers sometimes when it comes it EO.
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post Oct 13 2014, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(peejayboy @ Oct 13 2014, 04:30 PM)
Tried and tested Motul H Tech 100 + , honestly there is nothing to shout about where it degrades right after 4k km and engine is terribly rough after that.

Try and use Idemitsu fully synthetic 5w30, Syntium 5000 0w30, Total Quartz 9000 5w30 or Torco SR-1 5w30.

As for me even if i use fully syn oils, my OCI are always 5000km/3 months or maximum 7000km/5 months. Not anything longer than that.

Fyi, Proton oil filter is not that bad in terms of their quality. And usually thinner oil provides better overall lubrication and since you do not redline 24/7, there is no reason to use thicker oil. Just my dua cents  biggrin.gif
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hmm okies thanks! i have placed an order for sr-1 for now..

just wondering, u r using neo w r3 extractor but u sold off your 1.5 myvi for it? before i bought my neo cps i was looking at 1.5 myvi manual is it that bad?

so what oil are you using currently?






y4ng
post Oct 13 2014, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(peejayboy @ Oct 13 2014, 06:40 PM)
no probs!  smile.gif  i'm still using stock extractor tho, only change the r3 muffler and previously was driving myvi 1.5 auto as it was family car. I would say myvi has better response due to the "drive by cable" setup as compared to drive by wire. But handling and top speed, myvi no match hahah.

Now currently on syntium 5000 0w30 by proton sc so far so thumbup.gif and how about you? currently driving at or mt neo?
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manual FTW!

thinking of changing my extractor but still dont know who to go to =\ another thread to go to

im using liqui moly semi syn 10w40s, but this friday going for torco SR-1 fully syn cos ah jib kor raised my petrol price...thinking of switching to RON97 as well.
y4ng
post Oct 15 2014, 04:37 PM

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Torco SR-1 vs SR-1R, any diff?
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post Oct 15 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 15 2014, 04:48 PM)
1 is API SN certified, while the other isn't and geared more towards performance/racing oil. consider it the "budget" (still not cheap lol) racing oil as opposed to their high end SR5 etc.
supposedly, the R would have better friction modifiers although may sacrifice on other additives such as detergents and the EO may deteriorate faster than the non R

may visit their website for data specs etc.

from a quick usage (used it only once for some track events) on the SR1R on my iswara back then, it seems to deteriorate around the 10k-12k km mark instead of the 12-14k+ km mark compared to the SR1
iinm i did a 10 or 12k km OCI for that SR1R
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hmmm thank you!!! really really fast reply huh? cos the person that wanted to sell SR-1 to me, 1st say RM57/l, promise this week can get, now say RM60/l, else next week only stock comes in...makes a bit angry

so there's another reseller, but only carries SR-1R, think i dont like it cos of the price

I might as well go for ChemLube, RM53/quart

sien sien sien rclxub.gif

y4ng
post Oct 15 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 15 2014, 04:59 PM)
local distro here also weird, sometimes SR1 and SR1R same price, sometimes R more expensive.
from US R is more expensive lol
http://www.torcousa.com/torco_product/sr-1.html 2usd more expensive

OH and i just remembered why i don't bother with the R's, thinnest viscosity is xw30, i want 0w20 tongue.gif
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sien, maybe i should just go for chemlube since cheaper =|
y4ng
post Oct 15 2014, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 15 2014, 04:59 PM)
local distro here also weird, sometimes SR1 and SR1R same price, sometimes R more expensive.
from US R is more expensive lol
http://www.torcousa.com/torco_product/sr-1.html 2usd more expensive

OH and i just remembered why i don't bother with the R's, thinnest viscosity is xw30, i want 0w20 tongue.gif
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sien, maybe i should just go for chemlube since cheaper =|

 

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