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SUSlowya
post Jan 20 2015, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Renee @ Jan 19 2015, 06:18 PM)
Hi Guys.

Want to ask something, when we go to service center like Toyota, Honda and etc, they all tighten the undercarriage of the car, actually what they tighten ?

I feel alot different when driving, the car more stable and solid feel after service at those service center.

Now my car no more warranty, so i plan to service outside, but not sure how to tell the shop.
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post Jan 20 2015, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 20 2015, 02:00 PM)
so direct meh, i think girl wo... (from forum profile la)
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That's exactly the point, lol.
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post Jan 29 2015, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(dororo @ Jan 26 2015, 06:47 PM)
Hello all sifus, my just noticed that recently my civic 97' gear oil leaking, how should i fix it ? and how much will it cost? is it safe to drive with this condition now?  I need car for day to day work... sad.gif
all sifus please advise.
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Gear oil is to protect gearbox,

supposed you are a skilled mechanic and have a few spare gearbox at home for easy disposal,

then I say it's rather safe to drive with this condition.
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post Feb 10 2015, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Feb 9 2015, 04:50 AM)
No. That's why I asked.

I am exploring the possibilities.

There are people who don't follow the car manual.

Does your car manual says that your engine must use fully synthetic oil?

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wow.. so cheap this new brand of engine oil, 5kg only rm13.

did it work? how about olive oil? run smoother?
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post Mar 9 2015, 01:25 PM

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Got this engine oil unopened at Serdang for someone who need it as the rating is not suitable for my own use.

PM me offer.
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post Jul 24 2015, 11:33 PM

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Here's the dilemma of engine oil use:

use LiquiMolly that can last 7000km

used it for 1 year 3 months because low mileage only clocked 5000km.

Is it safe to wait till 7000km? Appreciate some mechanical/chemistry lesson on engine oil.
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post Jul 25 2015, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 25 2015, 12:17 AM)
if amsoil 40k km EO still recommended 1 year change, your lm is in a much worse shape.

you want a sure answer, do a used oil analysis. else if you want to be on the safe side, change immediately.
remember, km or months WHICHEVER FIRST.
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it could be either the auto industry wants a regular business that they suggest 'whichever first', unless someone could prove something like engine oil is not stable and oxidized after few months or 1 year of given mild usage below cycle limit.

I mean, did you see cooking oil, or any other oil stating this statement like such?

any one else with a different view/experience?


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post Jan 7 2017, 08:33 AM

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Hi, anyone here swear by changing engine oil only by Millege Interval, BUT IGNORES Time Interval completely?

Supposedly told by workshop to change yearly (ofcause to increase sales).

like to hear both side of the view, especially from chemistry or engineering background. Those in sales or marketing please don't reply.
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(serez @ Feb 21 2017, 05:44 PM)
only after 20 months u posted this, i try the Polytron full synth eo 10w40 in my Y15ZR. and yes indeed, performance quite impressive. before this i use Liquimoly fullsyn. change every 3000km.
i heard that this Polytron claim can reach 10000km or a year.
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could you please provide some liquimoly fullsyn vs polytron fullsyn personal review?

incl price, performance, value etc.
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QUOTE(epyy @ Jun 14 2015, 10:02 PM)
saya seorang rider. penzoil, shell, caltex, motul, total, honda semua dh guna utk kapcai saya. saya ambil keputusan utk mencuba mnyk Polytron. agak terkejut dgn performance motor bila guna mnyk neh. enjin lebih senyap.. pickup, long distance pon ok. hrga utk moto RM51.. utk kereta tak pasti berapa...
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maybe you switch from 10w30 to 10w40 (by polytron) for old engine thicker oil is better.

come to think of it, how would thicker oil (10w40) gives better performance polytron don't offer 10w30.
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post Feb 22 2017, 01:34 PM

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how to choose? all 10w30 4L:

Mitsubishi (not sure if semi) RM80
http://www.lazada.com.my/mitsubishi-10w30-...c-13466465.html

Nissan Semi RM108
http://www.lazada.com.my/10w-30-nissan-gen...ic-7125977.html

Castrol Semi RM125
http://www.lazada.com.my/castrol-magnatec-...l-11134136.html

LiquiMoly Semi RM140 free filter
http://www.lazada.com.my/perodua-viva-semi...2-11170666.html

help!
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post Feb 22 2017, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(LemonKnight @ Feb 22 2017, 03:36 PM)
The Mitsu 10w30 is mineral, I've seen the bottle before at AEON. The Mits 5w30 is semi.
Between the 4, I'd pick the Nissan bottle... or maybe the Sukimi 10w30 or Bosch 10w30 on lazada. But it's your call  smile.gif
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between the Nissan (by Idemitsu) vs Liquimoly hard to decide...
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post Mar 11 2017, 03:18 PM

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recently many articles shown that cooking oil made of palm oil can be used as good as engine oil that cost >10x.

found from Autoworld:

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Fully synthetic TOTAL QUARTZ 9000 SM 5W40 flash point is 230C
100% mineral oil flashpoint is 302C
100% palm oil flashpoint is 304C

TOTAL QUARTZ viscosity at 40C is 87.28mm2/sec
100% mineral oil is 503.4mm2/sec
100% palm oil is 42.6mm2/sec

TOTAL QUARTZ viscosity at 100C is 14.22mm2/sec
100% mineral oil is 32.51mm2/sec
100% palm oil is 8.65mm2/sec

TOTAL Quartz viscosity index is 169
100% mineral oil is 96.15
100% palm oil is 187


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compared to Total Quartz fully-syn oil, pure palm oil (with no additives) has a higher flash point, lower viscosity both at 40 & 100 degree Celsius (I think it's similar to a 0W-20 grade oil) & higher viscosity index (more stable), so palm oil is indeed more superior to some fully-syn oil in some aspects! But we won't know how it will be after additives are added.


i guess that's what they put in the cheap brands making 10x margin.

organic > synthetic

any review for Saji brand? haha

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post Mar 15 2017, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 15 2017, 01:00 AM)
Maybe you can experiment by using the palm oil into your engine then tell us the result?  brows.gif
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Done that.

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4. Conclusion

The formulated blends of palm oil show similar properties compared to commercial SAE 20W40 oil in terms of mechanical efficiency, brake thermal efficiency, and brake specific fuel consumption (BSFC). The engine performance and fuel consumption for both lubricants showed no appreciable difference either. The study revealed that by using blends of 25% palm oil the  emission levels are reduced as compared to mineral oil. Also the palm oil-based lubricant is derived from a renewable and lower carbon source; this blended formulation could potentially be considered a good alternative to mineral oil-based lubricants. Since the cost of palm oil based lubricating oil is much lower than the SAE 20W40 mineral oil, the palm oil provides more potential for the successful utilization as base for lubricant oil.


https://www.hindawi.com/journals/cje/2014/643521/
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post Apr 24 2017, 06:30 PM

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any cheapest engine oil from lazada that is listed here

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsSearch

or another japanese directory not sure where the link...

will be a great choice, any researcher here to suggest?

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post May 7 2017, 10:20 AM

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is it true that if you are on 10w30 and experience regular engine overheating, switching to 10w40 (or perhaps fully synthetic) would likely solve the overheating problem?
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post May 8 2017, 12:02 PM

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why need to hate customer for providing service ex-product? the mechanic is taking salary not commission.
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post May 11 2017, 04:19 PM

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earlier i mentioned switching from w30 to w40 oil would probably solve the engine overheating problem.

your reply:

QUOTE(Lushtree @ May 8 2017, 02:28 PM)
Not really.

The SAE xw30 is better vs xw40 engine oils to maintenance the engine temperature.

The xw30 are less fiction drag between the metal surfaces, hence less heat are generated from the engine.

The xw30 are thinner in viscosity, therefore it does possess a better oil flow in the engine crankcase, and engine heat can be remove quicker compare to the xw40 engine oil.

With that said, xw40 engine oil are unlikely will causing the engine overheat, did you look into the cooling systems, radiator, mixture of coolant, cooling fan….etc.
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is this engineering reasoning or simply based on gut feel?

imho, 'thinker oil' has higher boiling point, hence it's able to transfer heat better before it reaches boiling point (a point where the temperature will stay the same even engine heated up further), hence addition heat cannot be transfer to the radiator. Look at it like thicker oil like a bigger bus that carries more passenger (heat).

i think thicker oil is better for heat transfer for overheating engine, whereas for short distance travelled engine without overheating problem can stay at xw30 to enjoy it's fuel economy due to thin oil factor.

anyone can confirm this view point?
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ May 11 2017, 04:43 PM)
Don't need to think about boiling point too much for our driving style.

Lower viscosity = faster oil flow = better heat transfer

If you don't believe, go ask those people that own water cooling rig for their computers that have variable pump speed. Observe the temperature differences.
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we are not talking about speed of movement here, we are talking about liquid parameters here (specifically the viscosity itself).

Topic: Thinker oil carries more heat compared to thinner oil and more stable and suited for long distance drive or overheating. yes/no? and why.

Pretty sure there are someone who agree/disagree with this topic, like to hear more from other point of views.

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post May 12 2017, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ May 12 2017, 09:35 AM)
If you want to talk about physics...

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totally out of topic and out of context again, please read my topic again.

Kindly let others to reply before making any further reply.. thanks.


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