I thought worldwide only have 1 blend? I asked the pomen to write 12k mileage OCI. Have to monitor my mum's LMST as well then. Fed it with the same oil September last year. Will check the oil. Thanks a lot bro!

mobil 1 got many models advertising 15k MILES ma, and BITOG even VOA/UOA them and it's proven to withstand 15k MILES.

remember me being skeptical as hell about amsoil signature series boasting 25k MILES (over 40k km rofl) so i did my very first ever UOA?
i'm convinced then after that because the additives after using 10k km is actually MORE than most EO original datasheet! (aka brand new fresh EO)
particularly detergent/dispersal additives.

the reason tesco get their mobil 1 cheap is also due to parallel import, which is on the gray line of not... hmm legal?
they skip local distros, go backdoor and get much better pricing with their container shipment.
obviously that upsets the local distros like shell/mobil but eh... don't see any action been taken also.
and now even Giant supermarket following suite

Nope. Malaysian is different, catered for Malaysian weather and humidity. The packaging is different too.

Nah. Tesco and those big malls import their stock from their HQ in Europe. So their blend is Europe blend catering for their weather and humidity etc.

*most* reputable companies just have 1 blend la.
similar to how most global cars have "1 platform" and it is just trim level difference (eg: inspira/lancer all have heaters and it made zero sense having heaters in our country )

the manufacturing process/RND/licensing for multiple blends = $$$ and spending more $$$ = less profit
if you did not know, having different blend = new license for API, and while it isn't expensive (to big oil companies anyways) to re-license it, it is a hassle nonetheless.

hopefully i've gotten your attention for API.
http://www.api.org/certification-programs/...ditionfinal.pdf
to put it simply, EVEN IF they have various different blends so on so forth, so long it is properly licensed, going through AT LEAST 10k km/6 months should be easy job for SN certified EO.

and the ultimate mythbuster of them all: VOA/UOA (want to see if the additives/blend is different? VOA all the samples if you want to know for sure!)

In goes m1ep, that mobil 1 extended performance for you uns. Got it from mayalab like rm35 per 1 lit bottle. Aiming first for 12,000 km uoa with filter change at 6kkm. The engine already clocked 205,000+ km

I left the missing API certification logo question hanging a while back, so have you noticed the missing logos on popular engine oil products?

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73190126
this?

i haven't really visited petronas.
however from here:
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsRe...Name%3Dpetronas
they are certified anyways.

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to further clarify: i do not think missing logos are an issue, those that have/printed logo, and are NOT actually certified is.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: May 15 2015, 02:29 PM

Not just Petronas but every popular brand I've seen. One obvious omission on the API website would be UMW's pennzoil. And the local Shell products unless the Helix sold in Malaysia is all imported from US/Japan.

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsRe...mpanyName=shell

AFAIK UMW pennzoil is using old blend/model, which may or may no longer be API certified.
if shell is imported from US, it should have API certification/logo.

again, my take is that if it IS api certified and they don't print it out, it is fine as it's their "loss" for not marketing it.
it is NOT OK if they are NOT certified and yet they still print it out, which is ILLEGAL and can be sued by the API.

can a regular API SN semi-synthetic engine oil last for 1 year with mileage not reaching 8k km? Currently already 9 months but just barely 5k km, i thought to be "green" minded for not wasting it. daily driving but heavy traffic jam at kl area.

This post has been edited by voscar: May 16 2015, 05:34 PM

a UOA is a sure fire way, but if you don't want to be spending so much, there are other methods (obviously less accurate) as well such as observing (through dip stick or other means) the oil viscosity (not too thick/sticky, or watery), or if your engine is feeling sluggish, or any performance degradation.

personally, i wouldn't be too confident with semi synthetic, as that term is just way too vague. it can be 99% mineral oil group 2 (and below) base stock, and 1% synthetic base stock, or just the additives and they are called semi synthetic.

you'll notice that a lot of API SN fully synthetic EO aren't that much more expensive than semi's, and you can have much better confidence in dragging their OCI out.
as most people had voiced out before especially when it comes to longer OCI: risking the engine is just not worth it.
the engine itself should always be a higher priority.

Hmm , in what way is this Super 3000 an old/sub par product against New Life ?

Mind elaborating ?

I see, but where can I send for UOA? How much does it cost? I always see foreigner's forum mentioned that, didn't aware our country has this service.

The data sheet isn't even complete, and I can't seem to find it being certified (maybe it was, but lapsed and never renew)

And I was comparing it with Mobil 1 anyways, which again, is their top of the line Product.

Usd 25, postage is rm 120+ alone one sample. Sharing postage /multiple samples will bring that cost down a lot.

Malaysia also got such service, however customer service is abysmal or non existent, , and they actually charge much higher even with forex and postage accounted for.

Feel free to look at first page for some of my uoa samples, engine and transmission

For local, one of the places will be ALS lab. They charge rm300 for the UOA test. Just need to send a before and after sample of the engine oil for testing.

so tesco eo brand came from EU too?.its cheap.

tried it yet bro? got sample report? if it includes voa (since you mentioned before) and uoa together, then it may be cheaper than blackstone USA

25usd *2 (with 3.7 forex) is about 185 + 120 poslaju = 305
about same, however if add 20more usd for TBN, then it'll definitely be more expensive.

I haven't use it before but I will get more information on it.

This post has been edited by shinjite: May 17 2015, 04:39 PM

that would be great bro... the more information/access we can get locally, the better for everyone.
and we'll definitely be on the direction that this thread was intended at - debunking myths of lubricants