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post Oct 20 2014, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Oct 19 2014, 08:22 AM)
I'm used to revving to max rpm, didn't bother to use OD and will maintain long range 140kmh if condition allowed. Maybe w20 oil can keep up but already change from sr1r to sr1 so cannot demand anymore from the shop.
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Anybody tried Addinol 0W20?
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Oct 20 2014, 12:24 AM)
Anybody tried Addinol 0W20?
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https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsRe...yName%3Daddinol

only got diesel certified
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post Oct 20 2014, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 20 2014, 01:19 AM)
Mak aih...diesel only ka...nnt void warranty kete aku
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post Oct 21 2014, 07:02 PM

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Hi, newbie here. Been using OEM engine oil for the previous cars but planning to change now. Using the new nissan sylphy, sifus any recommendations on how to pick whats best for the car? TQ
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post Oct 21 2014, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Thayaalan 14 @ Oct 21 2014, 07:02 PM)
Hi, newbie here. Been using OEM engine oil for the previous cars but planning to change now. Using the new nissan sylphy, sifus any recommendations on how to pick whats best for the car? TQ
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Please read the information on first page
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post Oct 23 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Thayaalan 14 @ Oct 21 2014, 07:02 PM)
Hi, newbie here. Been using OEM engine oil for the previous cars but planning to change now. Using the new nissan sylphy, sifus any recommendations on how to pick whats best for the car? TQ
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Use any 5W30 oil will be good for you. Got budget stick with fully synthetic oils like OEM engine oil.
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post Oct 23 2014, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Oct 23 2014, 03:58 PM)
Use any 5W30 oil will be good for you. Got budget stick with fully synthetic oils like OEM engine oil.
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If Nissan is like any modern manufacturer, it should be on 0w20 already.

=edit=
for my curiosity anyways:
http://www.nissan.co.th/~/media/Files/Niss...ulsar_OM_EN.pdf
Thailand says 10w30 (HAHAOHWOW)

https://owners.nissanusa.com/content/techpu...wner-manual.pdf
USA says 0w20

both for the same MRA8DE (i believe is the correct engine model for 1.8 new Sylphy ya?) engine.

ok lets ask Japan, the guys who made the car:
http://153.127.244.43/pdf/2013-05-04/94596.pdf
0w20 nod.gif

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post Oct 24 2014, 08:58 AM

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0W20 is for the climate there. Local Tancheong recommends 5W30
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post Oct 24 2014, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Oct 24 2014, 08:58 AM)
0W20 is for the climate there. Local Tancheong recommends 5W30
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from the temperature/viscosity guide/charts (within the Japanese manual), it says 0w20 can be used for climates having ambient temperatures up to 40celsius (and of course -40c)
http://www.worldweatheronline.com/Kuala-Lu...-Lumpur/MY.aspx
still well within 40c biggrin.gif

unless you have exception usage/circumstances (eg: racing/track car), climate should no longer be the determining factor of viscosities and in almost all situation especially when dealing with modern day engine oil, one should be aiming for the lowest possible viscosity with high viscosity index (between 160-180 give/take) and aim for EOs that are API SN certified (which you may query publicly so you won't be fooled by false claims which are notorious from local EO) as recommended by manufacturers.

of course, that is not to say Tan Chong is wrong either, they may probably be still using dated EO (old API or even no API certification), or even mineral/semi synthetic instead of fully synthetics, or just merely want to standardize service schedules (eg: semi synthetic also 10k km, good luck on semis maintaining stable viscosity past 5-6k km laugh.gif ) so they'd rather play it safe and go with the old fashion recommendations (proton SC still uses xw40 or even xw50 with their silly synthium 1000! the irony is that most proton manuals already start to specify xw30!) such as xw30, or the old 5k km/3 months when most modern day manufacturer, shortest interval is also 10k km/6months!

i find it even surprising when even the old 4G15 engine from mitsubishi had it's service manual specifying xw30 instead of the xw50 on the sticker within the car's engine bay.
this one however can't be helped as engine oil in the early 1990's aren't as good as it is today, nor good engine oils are easily accessible than it is today.

=edit on typo/added clarification=

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post Oct 25 2014, 02:01 PM

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Finally, got that sr1r into my myvi. Rm65 per bottle and works engineering oil filter. Damn smooth feeling but yea new p2 oil also felt like this an after 3k km so so. Guys at the shop really looked puzzled seeing a stock auto myvi using a racing oil. Lol. Kinda worried tho to do 15kkm oci with this 1r. Kamikaze!
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post Oct 25 2014, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Oct 25 2014, 02:01 PM)
Finally, got that sr1r into my myvi. Rm65 per bottle and works engineering oil filter. Damn smooth feeling but yea new p2 oil also felt like this an after 3k km so so. Guys at the shop really looked puzzled seeing a stock auto myvi using a racing oil. Lol. Kinda worried tho to do 15kkm oci with this 1r. Kamikaze!
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i highly wouldn't recommend, however if you're curious and especially serious to find out, consider doing an UOA wink.gif
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post Oct 25 2014, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 25 2014, 03:06 PM)
i highly wouldn't recommend, however if you're curious and especially serious to find out, consider doing an UOA wink.gif
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Gonna be time consuming and quite expensive as i saw one quoted at rm250. Id rather use that for anothe oil change. Will stick as far as 12k then change and yea 6k filter change. Too risky gambling for another 3k.
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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Oct 25 2014, 07:39 PM)
Gonna be time consuming and quite expensive as i saw one quoted at rm250. Id rather use that for anothe oil change. Will stick as far as 12k then change and yea 6k filter change. Too risky gambling for another 3k.
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usd 25, or 35 if you want TBN as well, poslaju even more expensive, around rm120
if can share postage, then it can be a ton cheaper.
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post Oct 25 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 25 2014, 07:43 PM)
usd 25, or 35 if you want TBN as well, poslaju even more expensive, around rm120
if can share postage, then it can be a ton cheaper.
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Oversea? are you talking about Blackstone?

add: come to think about it, the whole world seems like didnt notice this oil or google fail to catalog uoa for sr-1r. Prolly I can make money sharing result. LMAO

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post Oct 26 2014, 01:04 AM

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anyone know any good ones for diesel ?
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post Oct 26 2014, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Oct 25 2014, 10:29 PM)
Oversea? are you talking about Blackstone?

add: come to think about it, the whole world seems like didnt notice this oil or google fail to catalog uoa for sr-1r. Prolly I can make money sharing result. LMAO
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yeah i did mine at blackstone after giving up on local options lol

and hey who knows if you can really make money from uoa results lol.
my personal opinion is to share so everyone can benefit as a whole though nod.gif
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post Oct 26 2014, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(Xu3r @ Oct 26 2014, 01:04 AM)
anyone know any good ones for diesel ?
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sorry bro not familiar with diesel engines

but in general, guides/info from first page, and stick with api certified EO from reputable manufacturers smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Xu3r @ Oct 26 2014, 02:04 AM)
anyone know any good ones for diesel ?
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Hi, looking the HDEO Heavy Duty Engine Oil, CH-4/CI-4/CJ-4 SL/SM/SN smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2014, 10:03 PM

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What about this company for uoa? The report from seems encouraging minus the price.
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post Oct 26 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Oct 26 2014, 10:03 PM)
What about this company for uoa? The report from seems encouraging minus the price.
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what is the pricing you got from them?

i emailed them back in 7th May 2014 to oiltest@alsglobal.com.my and no replies at all.
i see that they are having different email on
http://www.alsglobal.com.my/content.php?id=11&lang=1
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http://www.alsglobal.com.my/content.php?id=3&lang=1

maybe can consider if the pricing is cheaper than blackstone because if it's same/more expensive, i only need to combine shipping and i get analysis from renowned USA lab.

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